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Thomas Schwaiger

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Posted: 02/22/08 06:30pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hello All,

I'm sorry for using this forum to find out about this "New Invention". But since you guys are always interested in increasing fuel mileage, I thought I give it a try.

Their website is: www.preignitioncc.com, and by the looks of it they are turning a standard gasoline engine into a hydrogen fuel cell conversion and the second step would be a reburner of exhaust emission of-some-sort?

Does anybody know about this system? Is it possible? AND, IS IT SAFE???

Thank you,

Thomas


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Posted: 02/22/08 06:56pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thomas Schwaiger wrote:

Hello All,

I'm sorry for using this forum to find out about this "New Invention". But since you guys are always interested in increasing fuel mileage, I thought I give it a try.

Their website is: www.preignitioncc.com, and by the looks of it they are turning a standard gasoline engine into a hydrogen fuel cell conversion and the second step would be a reburner of exhaust emission of-some-sort?

Does anybody know about this system? Is it possible? AND, IS IT SAFE???

Thank you,

Thomas


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Posted: 02/22/08 07:47pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Is it possible? NO. Remember the old saying if it is too good to be true?

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BTY:I want to see the emissions wavier or CARB certification. Any legitimate company that is modifying the emissions control system must have an emissions wavier to be legal.

* This post was edited 02/22/08 09:17pm by Daveinet *


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Posted: 02/23/08 05:25am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Dennis Lee is the same person that claimed the invention of the FREE Electric Machine for your house and the Magnetec Laundry Balls.


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This came up a while back and a Google search showed the following about Lee.

"CONTACT: Elliot Burg, Assistant Attorney General, (802) 828-5507

January 29, 2007 - Vermont Attorney General William H. Sorrell announced today
that the Vermont Supreme Court has upheld a lower court’s consumer fraud
judgment against a New Jersey “free electricity” promoter, Dennis Lee, doing
business as United Community Services of America (UCSA). The trial court imposed
a permanent ban on Lee’s doing business in Vermont and awarded $20,000 in civil
penalties and over $20,000 in fees and costs to the State.

In a consumer fraud complaint filed with the Washington Superior Court in 2001,
Attorney General Sorrell alleged that Lee ran deceptive advertisements in the
Burlington Free Press and Caledonian Record to persuade Vermonters to attend a
sales presentation that summer in Burlington. The ads contained the offer, “Sign
up to get all your electricity for the rest of your life absolutely free!”
However, UCSA admitted to the Attorney General’s staff prior to the presentation
that the “free electricity” did not exist. The Attorney General’s court
complaint also noted that on UCSA’s website, the company marketed “dealerships”
for $30,000 or more.

In February 2004, the superior court found that Dennis Lee’s ads included
“patent falsehoods” and that “consumers were deceived into attending the
exhibition by advertised falsehoods.” The superior court also determined that
Lee had not provided any evidence that his “technologies” actually existed.

The following year, the superior court permanently barred Lee from advertising,
demonstrating, promoting or selling any goods or services in or into Vermont
(including dealerships and rights to participate in any enterprise), and,
through distributors in Vermont, from doing so anywhere else. The superior court
also ordered Lee to disclose on any Internet website that he does not sell in or
into Vermont. In addition, the court granted judgment in favor of the State in
the amount of $20,000 in consumer fraud penalties and $18,177 in costs and fees,
in addition to $2,508 in fees previously awarded.

Last week, the Vermont Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Lee to various
rulings by the trial court, finding that the superior court had acted within its
discretion in issuing a temporary restraining order the day of Lee’s show, in
requiring Lee to respond to the State’s discovery requests, and in imposing
sanctions for his failure to comply with those orders. The Supreme Court also
noted the “incontrovertible facts” that the advertisement for Lee’s show offered
“free electricity,” that the technology for “free electricity” did not yet
exist, and that Lee planned to engage in sales to Vermont consumers.

Commenting on the High Court’s ruling, Attorney General Sorrell urged Vermonters
to be extremely wary of advertising claims that are “too good to be true,”
including, at a time of consumer anxiety about high fuel prices, claims about
energy savings."


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This is a scam. Period. Anyone who claims to improve mileage by 3X is lying. Anyone who claims to improve mileage by 2X is lying. Anyone who claims to improve mileage by 20% on an existing vehicle is very probably lying.

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