If this couple does not buy my fiver. I am going to keep it until spring. There is not much that we like out there. I got a deposit at a campground in Jan. and it is too late to order a new one. The Jayco dealer told me it will take 8-10 weeks to get one.
Assuming there is nothing wrong with the Arctic Fox, why not keep it and upgrade the truck now while there are truck deals. Get the wife's new car now as well as you said you can get the car and trailer now - just change it to car and truck now!
Then get the new 5er in a couple of years. This way, if you buy the right truck now, you will be able to be the bigger 5er later.
I like my truck and it would be a lot more money than getting a new fiver. We really don't need a car now and I don't want a dually for my everyday driver as the truck now is. I don't know about where you live but there is no duallys on the car lots around here.
Delaine and Lindy wrote: The BH 3670RL has to much pin weight for a 2500HD. I know you don't like hearing that you need a 1 ton Truck but it would be the best decision if your going with a BH 3670RL. Good Luck with your decision. GBY....
I have to disagree, the max pin weight for a Chevy 2500 HD Duramax is 3,000 lbs. per my user manual. Maximum trailer weight of 14,700 lbs.
That said, I do tow a Landmark Augusta, same floorplan as the Bighorn 3670RL, with my 2003 2500HD Chevy crew cab, short bed, Duramax 4x4 and it tows and stops very nice. Ideally I would prefer a dually and in my dreams a Kodiak 4500.
Mark
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I am so tired of so many people on the "you need a 1 ton" bandwagon. Check the specifications. My F250 can carry more cargo than a 1 ton, this is according to Ford. My frame, engine, transmission, axle, springs, wheels and tires are the same. Now tell me why a 1 ton is better than my 3/4 ton. I can just change the emblem on the side if it will make you happy. Check your specifications for your truck and see if the trailer fits the specs.
priusron wrote: I am so tired of so many people on the "you need a 1 ton" bandwagon. Check the specifications. My F250 can carry more cargo than a 1 ton, this is according to Ford. My frame, engine, transmission, axle, springs, wheels and tires are the same. Now tell me why a 1 ton is better than my 3/4 ton. I can just change the emblem on the side if it will make you happy. Check your specifications for your truck and see if the trailer fits the specs.
Ron
The springs are not the same. There is a extra leaf for the one ton that the 3/4 does not have. This is what my dealer told me.
Don
I think there is some confusion on what GVWR is....this is the way I see it at least...
GVWR includes truck weight, cargo, and payload.
Payload is assumed to be equally distruted on the truck's bed, which places quite a bit of weight on the front wheels. Payload applies more to a truck camper, or somthing like that, not a fifth wheel.
A Fifth wheel and gooseneck place the majority of their weight on the rear wheels, which typically, can can handle a much larger load. So I dont think you can necessarily say a king pin weight is equivalent to a trucks payload capability.
You can see this in the way GMC specs their trucks, shown by their specs on fifth wheel weights.
Open up the two windows in this page (spring capacity, towing capacity). It shows exactly how much a fifth wheel can wiegh for each truck type. It is also easy to bring a 3/4 ton up to a 1 ton, by adding extra spring support on the rear axle (airbags etc)...
http://www.gmc.com/sierra/2500HD/specsCapabilities.jsp
For me, the biggest issue in towing a fifth wheel is braking ability...that is usally the safety issue.
The Big Horn 3670RL is a great floor plan. That said, my wife and I went with the now discontinued 3370RL for reasons of weight. Our '08 F250 PSD has a 9,800 lb. GVWR. With full fluids and loaded for the road our axle weights and combined weight ratings are fine. Yet the GVWR for the truck is a couple hundred pounds over weight. We pull and stop just fine and fell our F250 is adequate for the 3370. The 3670 is enough heavier I feel, from acutal experience, a 1-ton series would be the better option. As the Ford diesel is the same in the 250, 350, 450 series, pulling the rig isn't the issue. Wear and tear on the axles and being able to stop the beast is the issue. Also, a dually will definitely be more stable with the longer wheelbase of the 3670 opposed to the SRW. We've now got more than 20,000 miles on our '08 3370 and just got home from the dealer this afternoon from having a new set of Goodyears installed to replace the Chinese piece of junk tires that started coming apart. I am comfortable pulling the 3370 with our F250 but don't think I would be with the 3670. And for the Landmark owner...... I think you are stretching the abilities of your truck a bit. Looked at an '09 Augusta this summer and it is one nice rig. Wouldn't consider a cross country trip towing it with a 3/4 ton. My nickel, not yours. I was a weight cop for a long time and safety is first, last, and always.
Joe
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The GVWR of the 2500HD is 9200 lbs that means if you have 3,000 lb pin weight that means your Truck 2500HD with all passengers and gear your Truck can only have a weight of 6,200 lbs. The 3500HD's has a total weight of 11,400 lbs. My last 2008 Chevy DRW's 4x4 when ready to tow full of fuel all passengers and the dog our weight was 8,560, I can assure you there is a difference in GM Trucks 3/4 ton vs 1 tons because I have owned both. I don't understand some of the numbers that people use, such as Ford, if a F-250 can carry more that a F-350 that doesn't make sense but I have never owned a Ford. But if you want a 3/4 ton trucks its your decision. My belief is you can never have to much Truck. GBY.....
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priusron wrote: I am so tired of so many people on the "you need a 1 ton" bandwagon. Check the specifications. My F250 can carry more cargo than a 1 ton, this is according to Ford. My frame, engine, transmission, axle, springs, wheels and tires are the same. Now tell me why a 1 ton is better than my 3/4 ton. I can just change the emblem on the side if it will make you happy. Check your specifications for your truck and see if the trailer fits the specs.
Ron
What are you going to tell us next, it carries more than a MDT?? Maybe your BIG HEAVY DUTY F250 was more in your price range. See you at Golds Beach Oregon, then let us know how big and bad your truck is... And don't go touching my emblem.
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