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crandle

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Posted: 11/13/09 03:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The day before we crossed at Lukeville/Sonoita, at least two couples were turned back. One because the VIN on their 5th wheel did not exactly match the VIN on the registration. It did not matter that they had taken the same trailer in many times before.

The other couple was turned back because they had no marriage certificate. This is not because of any morals issue but simply to track the change of name between birth certificate and passport.

They may not ask for it (they didn't ask us) but if they do, be prepared to produce it.

I understand they have replaced many of the border agents over the summer so the new folks are probably taking their jobs very seriously.

On the other hand, one Canadian was let through with an expired passport (which they noticed)! He was very lucky but I don't think he will have the same luck going back into the States in the spring! I hope he will be able to renew it from Mexico.

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Posted: 11/13/09 04:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

They won't have any problem returning to US so long as they have their expired passport, which is proof of US Citizenship. US citizens cannot be denied access to the US if they're citizens and can prove it. They might have to go through secondary screening, but they'll get in.

Whoops! after posting I realized that they are Canadian. Still shouldn't be a major problem, but they'll have some 'splaining to do.


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crandle

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Posted: 11/13/09 04:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Except they are Canadians traveling through the States to get home.

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Like The Scouts Motto Reads " Be Prepared"!


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Just curious, but why would one need to bring a birth or marriage certificate if you have a passport? Those documents have already been checked to even receive a passport?


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Posted: 11/13/09 05:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Crandle:

That story sounds like the Migra guy is bogus. If they both had passports that is all that is needed. I would ask for a supervisor in that situation. Who carries a marriage certificate????


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Have NEVER had to show marriage certificate at border !!! Who the heck carries that with them? the canadien with expired passport might have bigger problems. To get back into/thru US passport MUST be valid. Now if he flies from Mexico to Canada might be easier then have renewed....But he might be in for a surprise when trying to drive back.

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I would try again at another crossing or after a shift change. We do that when we go to the U.S. and SO meets an ugly immigration officer. We drive down the road and cross at Pharr or we go back to Reynosa and have a coffee. Go back and it's like we never had had a problem.

And why wouldn't they let the SO in; SO has retirement pension, a house in the U.S., U.S. bank account, property in Mexico, on and on. Go figure. No one has figured out their criteria yet.

Appears though, that if the U.S. immigration official or border agent is anglo, they stamp the permit without question. If the border agent is Hispanic that is when the trouble begins. We'll never figure it out. Doesn't stop us from going where or when we want.


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Posted: 11/13/09 05:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Friends we traveled with one year had a problem at the Sonoyta crossing the first year it was moved down the road about 25 Km. Their machine didn't allow a Mastercard to work. Right behind them, mine wouldn't scan either. Our friend produced his wife's card and found out it wasn't allowed, at least not without a marriage certificate, which they didn't have, so they were charged a 400 dollar deposit on their new Powerstroke. But only US money was acceptable and everyone in our group was primed up with pesos only and the bank wasn't open. They drove the 50 km round trip back to Sonoyta for the US dollars. We got through on a second card, a Visa, which worked.

Two other rigs we had driven down I-5 with were also sent back to the border at the same time because they hadn't copied their FM-T's at the Lukeville/Sonoyta crossing, and the copier at the 25 km temp importation point didn't have ink enough in their copier. We waited for them all at Anna and Edguardo's in Santa Ana and rang in New Year's 2005 together, but there was a lot of grumbling going on. Ever since, we've crossed at Nogales.

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I guess Mexico makes it too difficult. For a Mexican getting a permit to travel in the U.S., you need cash, in dollars, and exact amount, they don't give change.

I guess each country is different.

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