You need to get some actual weights on your rig to tell a few things, but just guessing off the cuff, it sounds like you might not have enough tongue weight.
The "anti sway control" built into the F150 is not meant to dampen any slight wiggles... It's meant to help you control a situation where you are in a really serious sway condition where you are on the verge of crashing.
The "sway bar" you have on the rear axle of the truck is meant for cornering and is actually a "anti roll bar" to help keep the body roll to a minimum.
Finally, the EQ hitch you have might not be setup properly?? Do you have a pic of the hitched up rig?
So, lots of things it can be, or maybe you are just ultra sensitive?? To me, "sway" is when you are see sawing the steering wheel to gain control over the rig... If all that's happening is you feel a wiggle or a tug or pull from the trailer when conditions warrant, that's just what's happening at that time and may or may not be 'normal', but is not a condition that should cause an out of control situation either..
So, get some actual weights. Get a pic of the setup and maybe slow down a bit?? ;)
Going 60 mph compared to 65 mph is not going to cost you that much time/distance in the long run...
I tow a #5000 GVWR 22' TT with an F150 and you know it's back there... I did it with a 97 F150 with the 5.4 V8 in it and now a 13 F150 with the Ecoboost and Max Tow package..
You are on the road of shopping for TT's based on "dry weights" and looking at your vehicles "tow rating"... Usually not a good recipe for success... ;) Also, "tow ratings" for vehicles does not necessary mean "travel trailers" either..
My trailer had a "dry weight" of #3500... I've got it loaded to it's GVWR of #5000 easily.. I know, because I've weighed it..
So, that whole "I pack lite" and "I don't carry any water" might work to get you there on paper, but then own the thing for a bit, take it on a few trips and it's amazing how things end up packed in the trailer! :)
Anyway, no one here can tell you for sure that you'll be "just fine"... Only you can determine that.
Would I tow my TT with your Highlander? Not likely.. But, that's just me.
Are those trailer weights you are trying to determine, DRY weights or LOADED weights? Big difference between the two.
The "tow rating" has no spec for what kind of trailer that is and usually means NOTHING else is in the truck... Lots of difference between a #6900 TT compared to a #6900 boat for example... Same overall weight, but two very different trailers in how they add weight to the truck.
The real question is what rating do you feel comfortable with exceeding to hitch up a #6900 TT?? It's gonna be either the trucks GVWR, payload or the rear axle rating.. Or a combo of them or all of them... ;)
If all you are looking at is the "tow rating" or even the "GCWR", you'll exceed one of the others for sure... ;)
You'll get down the road just fine regardless.. It's just what do you feel comfortable with towing?
With as much formaldehyde my trailer had, back in 2002 when it was new, nothing would have survived in it! :) Had to air it out for a solid week when we brought it home!
Didn't really think about bed bugs being in new bedding however?? But, I guess anything is possible..
Hey Mitch, is that Steamboat Rock?
It reminds me a lot of Wenatchee Confluence (where we're going today) which is probably my favorite park.
SHHH! That's a secret! :) We go to Confluence a lot as well.. Really like the WA State Park System. Especially East of the mountain during the Summer.. Tried to PM you at first, but you seem to be shy, ha, ha.. ;)
Take care and have a safe trip! I'm jealous for sure! I'm probably going to be covering the ol' Lynx next weekend... :(
The State Parks in WA state offer full hookups and such, but not all the additional "fluff" that the "resorts" offer.. I don't like the private or "RV Park" type of camping one bit..
I can also go off the grid and dry camp and still enjoy the experience too..
Some need to just park and never come out of their RV, while others like to spend time outside, under the awning or exploring the area..
This is one of our favorite places to go.. It's a state park and has paved pads, 50a service and this view and lots of space between sites... :)
I figures "THIS" is my slide out! I don't have a big trailer with multiple slides, tv's and such... I go "camping" to get outside and not deal with chores or the day to day stuff.. ;)
I've seen folks back their RV in, set the satellite dish, plug in, and NEVER come out again!
To each their own I say! I'm out and about and enjoy the area I'm in..
Who says you have to use the bed spread that came with the trailer? Took ours off on day one, got a nice comforter from the Bed, Bath place with one of those covers that you stuff the comforter into and haven't looked back..
I think I used the original bed spread for a 'rag' as such in the truck bed.. ;)
I've also made a lot of changes to the storage and layout in general of the TT... It really comes down to what you want and what you are willing to do for yourself to make the trailer your own... :)
Regardless of the engine or even the gear ratio, if the trans shifts in and out of 6th to 5th a lot, I lock out 6th.. Depends on the road, wind, speed limit, etc..
And I've got the EB and 3.73 gears and only towing a #5000 TT...
I did the same thing with my old 97 F150 towing the same TT and locking or not locking out OD (E4OD trans).
So, as I said, for me, it just depends... ;)
Are you getting gas to the stove top?
When you turn the HW swtich off/on, do you hear a 'clicking' at the HW and is there at least a spark attempting to light the gas?
You should also hear the solenoid valve on the gas line open just before the igniter starts sparking.
Could still be the switch itself, so it won't hurt to start there either..
Going over the pass to Eastern WA with a #5000 TT and my old 97 F150 with the 5.4 was a good tow.. I was in second gear and pulling 3500 rpms and going 55 mph, so it was fine..
Towing the same TT with my 13 Ecoboost I'm in 4th gear, pulling around 2800 rpms going 60 mph.
You'll need more rpms with the 5.0 (it has more power than the old 5.4) compared to the Eco, but you'll get up the hills as long as you don't mind pulling in the higher rpm range while going up the grades.. You will probably be in 3rd gear and pulling around 3500 rpms to go 55-60 mph.
It's still all guesstimates of course, as no one can determine your towing comfort level and what you consider a "comfortable tow"..
Will you be under "ALL" of your trucks weight limits with that trailer? Who knows?? But my own opinion is you'll be maxed out on GVWR/payload for sure.. I'm within #600 of my trucks GVWR and only #400 from my trucks rear GAWR with just a #5000 LOADED TT and I've got the Max Tow F150 with an Ecoboost.. :)
So, until you get some actual truck weights to find out where you are and go from there, it's only guesstimates..
Sounds like the 'infamous' rear end clunk... It's generally the slip yoke in the trans and occurs when the rear end twists up slightly under load (Think of a mild case of axle wrap).
On the newer F150's with long wheelbase, it's a 2 piece drive shaft and it's occurring in the mid section of the drive line.
Don't have it with my 13 F150, but it did occur with my old 97 F150. It fixed itself after I got the aftermarket overload springs for it, as that helped the axle wrap issue it had as well as it's sagging when loading anything in the bed..
Did you miss the part where I said "ignore the tow ratng"?? ;)
You can't load up your truck to the gills and still tow a #9800 TT AND still remain under ALL of your trucks other ratings... :)
That tow rating assumes a single driver and an XL model truck without the tailgate, spare tire and some other things you have on your truck... ;)
It's called "Marketing" and not real world..
My truck has the #11,300 rating and my #5000 loaded TT makes it only #400 away from it's rear GAWR and #600 from it's GVWR... That's the math I go by.. :)
That's one great Son-in-Law to let you tow your #6400 dry weight TT with his Tundra! ;)
I'm sure it's towing it just fine, but I'm also sure it's over one or more of it's other weight ratings (either GVWR, GAWR or payload)...
My wife's only driven my new F150 once! ha, ha! :)
Anyway, I saw your posts on the other Ecoboost thread and can only say if you want to tow that kind of weight, get the 3.73 gears at least because you'll need the Max Tow package at the very least if you want any hope of staying under payload, GVWR ratings on the truck..
The Eco will have no problem towing the weight.. It's how much tongue weight you have and how much payload and rear axle weight you have left.
I tow a #5000 GVWR TT (#3400 DRY) and I'm within #400 of the rear axle rating and #600 of the GVWR of my Max Tow F150 with #7700 GVWR and #4050 rear GAWR..
I have a #11,300 "tow rating"... ha, ha!
Anyway, I have the 3.73 gears and get 17 mpg on my daily commute and have gotten 21 mpg on straight hwy runs going 65 mph.
There are many folks that tow 30+ foot, #8000+ lb travel trailers with their NON max tow Ecoboost F150's and are happy... I can certainly feel my #5000, 22' TT behind mine and it's a great tow to be sure... I'll tow it anyplace, anytime..
Can you tow your TT with an Ecoboost? Sure you can... Don't expect any better mpg's doing it than the Tundra, but you should be better mpg with the Eco not towing as long as you stay out of the turbos.. It's pretty hard to NOT enjoy the fun of the power of them, but it'll cost you in mpg's.. :)
Yes, you'll need a WD hitch setup for sure.. Any trailer you look at will have over #500 TW, but you can usually get that as a package deal with the new TT from the dealer or get one on your own.. That's going to be it's own tread, or you can search the site and read for WEEKS on the many different brands and types!
Along the lines of what you load in the truck, I pack HEAVY... ;) I take so much stuff that I don't even use, it's laughable... BUT, when I need that stuff, it certainly comes in handy..
I've helped out camping neighbors with tools and extra hands for things and I've needed my own tools and such to fix my own stuff.. I just had the gray tank DROP off it's mounts while in camp... Fixed it on the spot and it's actually better than it was before now! :)
Anyway, I've packed more than #1500 of stuff in my little 22' trailer.. That includes the extra "mods" I've done and I like cooking with cast iron pans too!
I carry a full load of water (30 gallon fresh water tank) and take along bottled water and whatever else I want to have while "camping".. :)
I've tent camped and bought a TT so I don't have to limit myself in what I can take, so I've paid my dues! :)
Just know that towing a full sided TT is different than a boat trailer and that "tow rating" does not specify what kind of trailer you are towing..
Yes, GVWR is fully loaded WITH all your stuff included.. Dry weight is before you put your first beer in the fridge and also filling the propane tanks, water tank, etc...
Bunk house is the way to go for own beds and you'll need at least 3 of them by the sound of it.. ;)
It can be done, but you'll have to give and take on either the trailer size/weight or the trucks payload and axle weight ratings. Going over GVWR or even the payload rating is not a deal breaker in my mind, but you don't want to go over the trucks rear AXLE weight rating if you can help it...
Jbird, you want to look at this sticker..
I think you already have if you say you have "#1637" payload??
Anyway, forget the "tow ratings"... They assume a bone stock truck (ie, not what your truck is) and that you don't carry any passengers or stuff in the bed..
With that said, look for trailers in the #6000-#6500 GVWR range and you will be okay for the most part and can load whatever you want in it..
If you look at trailers with #6000-#6500 DRY WEIGHTS, you will have to limit what you pack and it won't be an enjoyable tow IMO..
I'm towing a #5000 GVWR TT with my F150 and I can tell it's there... So, those that say they "don't even know it's there" is full of it! ;)
You are wise to do this checking first! :) Don't fall for the hype of the tow ratings and the trailers dry weights and "half ton towable" claims... You might get a great trailer, but it might not be that much fun to tow...
There are lots of trailers out there.. For a family of 5 "to have their own space" in an RV is asking a lot!! Not really gonna happen with anything less than a 30+ foot rig and even the lightest of them will push the limits on your truck.. Well, as long as if you want to stay UNDER the trucks weight limits... ;)
You can move just about any trailer you care to hitch up... It's what and how much over the trucks OTHER ratings you are willing to overlook.. ;)
Good luck and have fun in the search!
Not sure on the Trail Manor, but in my full sided TT I can't stand up full height in my trailers shower by a good amount, but I'm 6'3". The shower is raised about 2-3" above the floor in mine (it's tub as well). I can stand up with inches to spare in the trailer itself. I have to duck to get out the front door however..
I've never taken a shower in my trailer, as it's just not big enough and works much better for storage.. :)
The next thing to do is find a Trail Manor dealer and check them out in person.. ;)
I looked at them before buying our TT and didn't care for them one bit.. I didn't even get to the bathroom before I exited it... Just not what I wanted and the used ones I looked at cost more than the brand new full sided trailer I ended up with (and still own to this day).
Good luck with the search and I hope you find the trailer of your dreams! :)
If you haven't already changed out the OEM front rubber brake lines to the caliper, do that first... Even if they 'look' fine and don't leak, when you press on the brake, they actually expand and you don't get as much pressure to the calipers. I changed them on my old 97 F150 and it made a huge difference in the braking power.
As to how many miles you get out of a set, your running loaded most of the time is gonna wear them quicker for obvious reasons.. You might just have to try various pad materials and see what's going to work best for your application. I've heard good and bad things about the ceramic pads. I'd try a semi-metallic brand after the new brake lines and see how it goes..
I agree, seems all the V8 1/2 tons get around the same MPG.
So does the little 3.5L twin turbo V6 that puts out as much (or more) power as the gas V8's.. Once you get into those turbos, it's gonna suck the fuel, but it sure is nice only pulling 2800 rpms going 60 mph up a 6% grade with plenty of pedal to spare... :) :)