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Posted: 02/26/12 08:52pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

hmmm... for twenty bucks you can park in my driveway and i will throw you a plug too.
with space for three out front, take my fence down and space for five out back...... heck i might stay home from work and make you coffee.

in all fairness i understand what youre after but for most campgrounds, the window for making money is very small compared to the full year they are paying for their business.


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I agree that they should offer some sites for just overnighters at a reduced rate if you're not needing full hookups. Especially, if they're not a destination campground. I'm seeing at a lot of these campgrounds, they have a lot of work campers there, so having reduced rates for just overnighting makes sense. We too have a Passport Americard, but you can't always find a member campground on all your routes.

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I full time and work on the road. Still employed until retirement next year, I view things a little differently. Government, ie. public campgrounds serve my needs while working in outside sales and sale management. Moving every week or two fits in with their usual two week maximum stay rule and the "geezer" pass affords me half price camping.

I've enjoyed staying in forests for $7.50/night to $11.00/night in C.O.E. parks, both with W&E. State parks in the east have run me between $16 and $20/night. And I have stayed in County and City parks for between $10 and $16/night. Some of which have permitted stays of a month or longer during the off season. A couple of them have offered full hookups for $10-$12/night. While cost is always a factor, being an old guy, I much prefer the ambiance of those kinds of parks over the RV parking lot.

I do avail myself of Passport America parks on occasion, primarily to do laundry while in transit or when a public park isn't available in the area I want to work. Short of that, while in transit I don't need a park or their amenities. There are so many overnight opportunities available to grab 6 to 8 hours of sleep before moving on. I seek permission to park and avoid abusing that privilege. I'll usually buy something I need at that establishment, whether it's dinner or a gallon of milk. So far, I haven't been rousted in the middle of the night. YMMV.


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Like many other posters I agree that an electric only site is something that I would look for while traveling. But again, are you pulling a PUP and need to charge up the batteries or do you have a 40' DP with 3 ACs, etc. Even electric only sites the use will vary a lot. The DW and kids don't like to wally-dock or overnight at the truckstop very often so we usually are in a park and the extras are nice, but not mandatory. If I'm solo then I will park out most nights and only pull into a park when it is time to refill, recharge, and refresh. At those times, FHU are what I am looking for.


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Posted: 02/26/12 10:55pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My overnights work like this. If driving longer and into a later time of night, I wallydock. I don't need elec. I won't be using amenities cause it is late at night, so we pull in, use our facilities, might walk around Wally for a bit to loosen up, eat and then off to bed for a very early AM start for the final destination. cost: free

If I am going to stop around the 3pm, 4pm time of day then I book a cg along the way. cheapest I can find. usually $30. cause at that time I want amenities. pool, elec. and all that to enjoy what is left of the day.

so what I do for overnights usually involve when my driving time is going to be over. kinda sets the plan for a trip on how I am going to handle the drive and reservations

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Snowman9000 wrote:

We just completed a 4000+ mile trip, which included 7 stops that were only overnight. The average cost of the FHU private CG by an exit was probably about $30.

Obviously this is why people Wally-dock. I'm wondering what you think an overnight stop is worth money-wise, and what amenities you need.

For us, we only need electric and a reasonable feeling of security. We don't need water or sewer, not for an overnight. We don't need cable for an overnight. Wifi is a bonus but we tether to my phone's 3G so all the wifi does is save a couple of steps (if it works). We don't need a restroom, shower, dump station, or laundry. Now, granted, at some point in the trip we need the FHU and laundry, but mostly not on overnights.

To me, $10-15 is about the actual value of our typical overnight. Notice I'm not commenting on what the costs of CG operation are, their need for a profit, etc. I'm just commenting on what it's worth to us. Maybe it's worth more to me than I think. What's it worth to you? Or put it another way, at what price do you start to think you are paying for more than you need? I think in the $20's, I'm pretty okay with it. $30's and beyond, I figure we are paying for something we don't need, whether it's scenery, nice clubhouse, pool, whatever.


We found on our cross country we did several parking lot short nights. Due to the temps and being in a MH (batteries get to 100% the next day normally from driving) but have generator if electric is required.

I our case we were driving long hours so we did not waste time looking for CG's. We fine it cost us about ONE hour of time to get into a CG vs a parking lot. We did about 10 on our trip so we were able to travel about 600 miles in the 10 hours of time we saved going the parking lot route. The money saved was not that much but paid for that 600 miles we traveled on time saved sleeping in parking lots.

Free gas and drive time may be of more interest to more RV'ers as gas prices and CG prices keep increasing. Being able to not start the MH the next day and be at our first stop was a plus more than once.

Again in our case it is a time factor and not a money factor but we do not pull off the road at 5 PM when just crossing KS to get to YS.

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Posted: 02/26/12 11:34pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Why anyone would even need shorepowered ELECTRICITY for a "quick overnight" is beyond me.

Most RV's have battery enough to maintain basic services for at least a day...what else would one need if just stopping to sleep and eat?


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Everyone has their own thoughts on this. Here is mine. My wife, 2 cats and I use our TT for our October trip from our summer home in NY to our winter home in S. Texas. In April we use it on our way back "home". For many years we stayed at Wally World and Flying Js to save a few bucks. I was never at ease because of the constant noise at either place. The last few years we have decided to use "campgrounds". I don't care what they have to offer as long as they are secure and quiet. I don't think I ever paid less than $25 and we got everything from first class to no class. Last year on my trip home I limited my search on my GPS to 2 things.....along current route and KOA. My cost for a KOA was $32 to $37. For that I got a clean, quiet campground, full hookups, propane if I needed it, a good nights sleep, reliable Wi-Fi and cable TV. So it cost me an extra $50 or $60, staying 5 nights, to not worry about the campground I was going to spend the night at. At 8.5 MPG for 2,200 miles I am well over $1000 for gas for the trip anyway.

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Francesca Knowles wrote:

Why anyone would even need shorepowered ELECTRICITY for a "quick overnight" is beyond me.


Perhaps a little wider vista is in order. For instance a considerable number of RV'ers have medical issues that require an electrical connection when the engine alternator is not charging the house batteries. Also, many of the larger late model Class A RV's are all electric including the refrigerator and cook top.


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Snowman9000 wrote:

We just completed a 4000+ mile trip, which included 7 stops that were only overnight. The average cost of the FHU private CG by an exit was probably about $30.

Obviously this is why people Wally-dock. I'm wondering what you think an overnight stop is worth money-wise, and what amenities you need.

For us, we only need electric and a reasonable feeling of security. We don't need water or sewer, not for an overnight. We don't need cable for an overnight. Wifi is a bonus but we tether to my phone's 3G so all the wifi does is save a couple of steps (if it works). We don't need a restroom, shower, dump station, or laundry. Now, granted, at some point in the trip we need the FHU and laundry, but mostly not on overnights.

To me, $10-15 is about the actual value of our typical overnight. Notice I'm not commenting on what the costs of CG operation are, their need for a profit, etc. I'm just commenting on what it's worth to us. Maybe it's worth more to me than I think. What's it worth to you? Or put it another way, at what price do you start to think you are paying for more than you need? I think in the $20's, I'm pretty okay with it. $30's and beyond, I figure we are paying for something we don't need, whether it's scenery, nice clubhouse, pool, whatever.


To me $50 per night is a reasonable cost per night so I will stick with the more established CGs like KOA, etc. where I like their "amenities" and not to try and cheap out with wally docking, etc.

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