parooney wrote: I have a 2011 F250, SRW, 3.55 rw axle, Long bed, 18K Reese hitch and air springs added after market. Can we pull 2012 3750FL Montana. We will be traveling almost full time going between the east in the fall and west including Alaska in the winter and summer
In a word - NO, you don't have enough truck.
Even empty you are at the max tow rating.
Once loaded up you will be well over your tow rating and probably over truck payload as well. If you are full-timing you will probably have a LOT of stuff in the truck and trailer. You could easily end up with a pin weight well north of 3000#.
Don't forget, every pound in the truck (other than a 150# driver) had to be subtracted from that MAX number.
That trailer is in borderline SRW/DRW 1-ton territory. I would want four wheels at the back if I was going to tow it much. Certainly for full-timing.
I'd also want diesel grunt to pull it!
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Robin'n'Marian wrote: Per the published specs, the 2012 Ford F250 has a base max 5th wheel towing capacity (for reg cab 4x2, no options) of 12,800. that drops to 12,300 for reg cab 4x4 (still no options, base vehicle.)
Don't know where you got that. The F250 with diesel is rated up to 16,700, or a low of 15,200 with 4WD and tall gears. I know it is a diesel by the given gear ratio.
Also, F250 and F350 SRW have the same maximum tow rating. Same truck really, and it is only the payload that is a problem. Air bags overcome that deficiency, as long as you don't worry about GVWR. Check the tires though.
Trailer king pin for 5th-wheel towing load weight should be 15-25% for 5th-wheel towing of total loaded trailer weight. Make sure vehicle payload (reduce by option weight) will accommodate trailer king pin for 5th-wheel towing load weight and weight of passengers and cargo added to towing vehicle. Addition of trailer king pin for 5th-wheel towing load weight and weight of passengers and cargo must not cause vehicle weights to exceed rear GAWR or GVWR.
I had the 2008 F250 SD PSD 6.4 with 3.73, 5th wheel towing max was 15,200. The GVW for the truck was 10,000 lbs. I only had 1700 pounds of payload left before the hitch and passengers. I have a payload around 3,000 lbs. with the air bags it pulled fine, but knowing I was over made me uncomfortable. Imho you need a 1 ton.
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To really confuse you OP, you would get just the opposite answers on the tow vehicle section
Having said that you are always going to have 3 types of folks towing.
1 is the GVWR guys who use the safety ratings set forth by the manufacture. I'm one of them.
2 is the RAWR guys who stay under the rear axle ratings which is most likely the same as your tire ratings. Logic is its legal in most states.
3 is the guys who don't believe in ratings period and would tow a Grand Teton with whatever they happened to own.
Just me but 3k pin is where I draw the line between the SRW and DRW trucks. Although the last couple of years the SRW 35 series trucks have made some big gains in payloads due to the bigger wheels and tires.
Good luck with your decision
Robin'n'Marian wrote: Per the published specs, the 2012 Ford F250 has a base max 5th wheel towing capacity (for reg cab 4x2, no options) of 12,800. that drops to 12,300 for reg cab 4x4 (still no options, base vehicle.)
Don't know where you got that. The F250 with diesel is rated up to 16,700, or a low of 15,200 with 4WD and tall gears. I know it is a diesel by the given gear ratio.
Also, F250 and F350 SRW have the same maximum tow rating. Same truck really, and it is only the payload that is a problem. Air bags overcome that deficiency, as long as you don't worry about GVWR. Check the tires though.
Just because a book stated a truck is rated to tow up to 15,700 or a low of 15,200# doesn't mean squat "IF" you exceed the trucks GVWR or even the RAWR before you get to that weight. No way would I want to tow an almost 15,500# GVWR 5er with an F250 or a 2500 of any make...diesel or not...still a 3/4 ton truck, been there, dont that, got the T-shirt.
air bags level a load, nothing more....can't help you carry anymore weight, just levels the load. ...nothing more.
I keep forgetting, as far as some are concerned that an F250 and an F350 SRW are actually the same truck...can't believe that Ford is ripping people off that badly, calling a 3/4 ton truck just a 3/4 ton truck when in fact, it's really an F350....that's just wrong...
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45Ricochet wrote: To really confuse you OP, you would get just the opposite answers on the tow vehicle section
Having said that you are always going to have 3 types of folks towing.
1 is the GVWR guys who use the safety ratings set forth by the manufacture. I'm one of them.
2 is the RAWR guys who stay under the rear axle ratings which is most likely the same as your tire ratings. Logic is its legal in most states.
3 is the guys who don't believe in ratings period and would tow a Grand Teton with whatever they happened to own.
Just me but 3k pin is where I draw the line between the SRW and DRW trucks. Although the last couple of years the SRW 35 series trucks have made some big gains in payloads due to the bigger wheels and tires.
Good luck with your decision
Pretty much dead on...I'm a #1 guy, but some would probably call me #2
It is my understanding that all of the big 3 use the same frame, axles, and brakes under their 250x and 350x SRW. Just different springs, and possibly different tires. I don't follow the lesser 2 makers all that closely, so I could be wrong.
Robin'n'Marian wrote: Per the published specs, the 2012 Ford F250 has a base max 5th wheel towing capacity (for reg cab 4x2, no options) of 12,800. that drops to 12,300 for reg cab 4x4 (still no options, base vehicle.)
Don't know where you got that. The F250 with diesel is rated up to 16,700, or a low of 15,200 with 4WD and tall gears. I know it is a diesel by the given gear ratio.
Also, F250 and F350 SRW have the same maximum tow rating. Same truck really, and it is only the payload that is a problem. Air bags overcome that deficiency, as long as you don't worry about GVWR. Check the tires though.
I got the info from the Ford site http://www.ford.ca/app/fo/en/trucks/superduty.do?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=cids11NSDE_GOO;
Towing capacity 5,670kg (12,500lbs) 5,670kg (12,500lbs) 5,670kg (12,500lbs) 5,670kg (12,500lbs)
GCWR 8,618kg (19,000lbs) 8,618kg (19,000lbs) 8,618kg (19,000lbs) 8,618kg (19,000lbs)
5th-wheel towing capacity 5,806kg (12,800lbs) 5,579kg (12,300lbs) 5,806kg (12,800lbs) 5,579kg (12,300lbs)
Marian
Robin'n'Marian wrote: Per the published specs, the 2012 Ford F250 has a base max 5th wheel towing capacity (for reg cab 4x2, no options) of 12,800. that drops to 12,300 for reg cab 4x4 (still no options, base vehicle.)
Don't know where you got that. The F250 with diesel is rated up to 16,700, or a low of 15,200 with 4WD and tall gears. I know it is a diesel by the given gear ratio.
Also, F250 and F350 SRW have the same maximum tow rating. Same truck really, and it is only the payload that is a problem. Air bags overcome that deficiency, as long as you don't worry about GVWR. Check the tires though.
I got the info from the Ford site http://www.ford.ca/app/fo/en/trucks/superduty.do?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=cids11NSDE_GOO;
Towing capacity 5,670kg (12,500lbs) 5,670kg (12,500lbs) 5,670kg (12,500lbs) 5,670kg (12,500lbs)
GCWR 8,618kg (19,000lbs) 8,618kg (19,000lbs) 8,618kg (19,000lbs) 8,618kg (19,000lbs)
5th-wheel towing capacity 5,806kg (12,800lbs) 5,579kg (12,300lbs) 5,806kg (12,800lbs) 5,579kg (12,300lbs)
Marian
That chart doesn't specify, but I'm sure those are the gasser specs. Check the PDF that I linked to for far more detailed info.
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