I am finding more and more non paying jobs and decidedly fewer paying positions. It seems offering a FHU site for 30 or 40 hours a week work is becoming the norm. When they throw in wanting a 3 or 4 month commitment it gets to be too much for me. Figuring an $8.00 an hour "wage" that makes a site worth close to $1000 a month and there are very few sites in very few places I am willing to pay that much for, especially since working that much leaves little time for enjoying the area. Even KOA workamper jobs are moving this direction now I noticed. Are campground owners finding enough of a work force willing to work for site only?
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Like PT Barnum said, "there is a sucker born every minute" and the RV community is full of them, apparently. I'm in your corner with, there is NO RV site worth that kind of money plus the BS most RV park managers expect you to put up with. I'll take our type of paid job, with FHU site included, over the "free" slave labor any day.
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Better than some I'd seen before. I saw a post where the income was less than the cost of the site that you were required to pay for. Seemed like a scam to me.
Apparently there are enough people to fill the positions. Otherwise either rates of pay would be increasing, or parks would be closing due to lack of help. Don't know of too many jobs that provide housing, so why is it so weird that some Parks require either payment or hours worked for you to have a place at the park. They could just hire locals and not have to even consider paying housing costs. I am amazed at the applications we get with the restrictions and demands that potential employees are requesting before they have even spoken to us. They want certain days off, won't work holidays or weekends, won't do this or that. These resumes make a trip to the circular file, we have no problems finding people who are interested in working with us, not in conflict with us.
westernrvparkowner wrote: Don't know of too many jobs that provide housing
RV Parks don't provide housing. They can provide water/power/sewer/setting/community services - everything but the actual housing. Not that these things aren't valuable in their own way, but they're not housing.
I've always seen the one who looks after the park in a designated spot. I assume they are required to stay there or be available most 24/7 unlike a regular job. I don't think it's unreasonable to let the manager park for free AND pay them otherwise they should have the option to leave after their 8 hours and stay elsewhere. I assumed that was the way it was most often. Get paid plus a site to park on.
For 8 summers we worked in and around Yellowstone and Glacier National Parks and always each worked about 40hrs/week , got paid for all hours and had an RV site provided at low cost. Those jobs are all still available but none of them were in campgrounds. We thought we might try volunteer campground hosting, hoping for fewer hours and easier, outdoor work. But so far it isn't working out, partly for the reasons stated above of too many hours, too long of a commitment and sometimes not full hook-ups for the RV site. If we volunteer we want to feel we are more in control than the employer re: length of commitment, number of hours, etc. No way would I ever work for no pay for a private, profit making campground. Hopefully, the trend is for more and more of us to pass on some of those positions and get back to a requirement of around 20 hours/week total and flexible commitments.
westernrvparkowner wrote: Apparently there are enough people to fill the positions. Otherwise either rates of pay would be increasing, or parks would be closing due to lack of help. Don't know of too many jobs that provide housing, so why is it so weird that some Parks require either payment or hours worked for you to have a place at the park. They could just hire locals and not have to even consider paying housing costs. I am amazed at the applications we get with the restrictions and demands that potential employees are requesting before they have even spoken to us. They want certain days off, won't work holidays or weekends, won't do this or that. These resumes make a trip to the circular file, we have no problems finding people who are interested in working with us, not in conflict with us.
I follow you logic but what is the monthly retail value of the site? $1000.00 a month seems like a lot to me. But I'm not really familiar with monthly rates. What is the employee's hourly rate?
I don't think anyone is unwilling to pay or barter for a site, but zero pay in $$$ equates to a $1000.00 a month site. Those figures seem skewed to the CG owner.?
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Lantley wrote: zero pay in $$$ equates to a $1000.00 a month site. Those figures seem skewed to the CG owner.?
Of course they are. The CG owner is in a position of power and can dictate who and when and how much, within the constraints of the law.
I'd suspect that the CG owner will need to pay employment taxes to the government relative to the value of the compensation you receive - whether that compensation be in the form of free rent power water and sewer or actual liquid cash.
The compensation ONLY being paid in things you can buy on site - rent/water/electric/sewer - is scary close to the illegal exploitative truck systems that effectively forced you to purchase from the local store...
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CG owners will have to watch out. They could get in trouble going down that road. Being unable to spend your compensation at non-owner-controlled venues is worrisome.
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