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ArkieVet

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My '09 F350 dually with the Tow Boss pkg has a GCWR of 26,000, and it would probably be less than what you need for the weights mentioned.


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ArkieVet wrote:

My '09 F350 dually with the Tow Boss pkg has a GCWR of 26,000, and it would probably be less than what you need for the weights mentioned.


TowBoss begins with an F-350 DRW with PSD engine, automatic tranny, and TowCommand system. With 3.73 or 4.10 axle ratio, the GCWR is 23,000 pounds. But with the 4.30 rear end, the GCWR goes up to 26,000 pounds. Pretty slick of Ford to get the extra weight with just a gear change. What kind of mileage are you getting?


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All truck makes boost the GCWR by using lower gears for the rear end. It is not unusual.
A 4:56 rear end will tow a lot more than a 3:55 rear end. Changing the gears will NOT change the GVWR!
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Bottom line answer is YES...If properly equipped to do so. Do your homework, check how the truck is optioned out, check the weight stickets located on the door pillar of the truck.
Then relax and go camping and enjoy the new truck and RV!!!
AND I ALMOST FORGOT....Don't trust a sales persons word that his truck meets your needs.....in most cases, He could care less as long as you buy his truck.


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Y'all hurt my feelings by specifying Ford. :-)

My Dodge diesel dually, long bed, 3.72 rear end, 6-speed stick shift has a tow rating of 16,000 lbs with a payload that accommodates my pin weight of over 2,000. Don't remember the exact payload. I bought the dually because a single rear tire truck wouldn't do it.

We've run the rig about 30,000 miles. The combination works.

Arkie, I was an Army E-7. In Nam 67-68. 25th Infantry Division.


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sirdrakejr wrote:

All truck makes boost the GCWR by using lower gears for the rear end. It is not unusual.
A 4:56 rear end will tow a lot more than a 3:55 rear end. Changing the gears will NOT change the GVWR!
Frank

I didn't mention GVWR, I did mention GCWR which I believe is the rating for the total weight of the TV & trailer. Here the link I got it fromTow Boss

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Being a retired weight cop..... I'd disagree with those that believe an F350 dually will do the job. I would agree with those who say to go with a 450. 4.10 gears and bigger brakes. And that is one honking big RV you are considering. I towed with a marginal truck for a few years. Bad ju-ju. Truck kept breaking down. The motors, diesel, are the same in the 250-350-450 so those towing really big rigs with the 350 can get up and down the road but all things considered a 450 or bigger would be a much better option IMHO. That said, I tow a 14,000 lb. GVWR Bighorn and going down the road is no problem with my F250 PSD but stopping is sometimes a bit of a chore in some situations.

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Way back when the economy was healthy I believe most folks wouldn't consider "too-much-truck" because of the cost but if you factor in it's now a buyer's market, you could very easily make the jump to a larger truck (MDT/HDT) with a little research, for less than you're going to pay for that P/U that will be marginal at best for your size rig.

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Arkievet, I'm speaking from trial and error and spent a ton of money. If I had done it right the first time I would have actually been able to buy a new MDT and and would have spent less money. I had 4 DRW's Trucks 3500HD's up to a Chevy Kodiak 4500 and was always over GVWR. As Bruce said if you look there are many HDT's for sure and many MDT's cheaper than of the 1 ton Trucks. And he you go for a HDT or MDT route you want have to every buy another Truck. Most HDT's/MDT's have proven Diesel engine. It they will run from 500,000 to 1 million miles without question. Good Luck with your research. You can't have to much Truck. GBY....


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Any of the newer gen 3500 DRW has around a 9000 lb + RAWR/ tire caps for carrying the pin weight of a 18k GVWR trailer which may be in the twenty percent of the trailers GVWR. Twenty percent would be in the 3600 lbs range.

The 3500 DRW fits nicely in a trailer that size. If your into lots of excess towing capacity a move up to a 4500 size truck will give you a 12000 RAWR/tire caps. That will give you a truck with approx 8k of payload. Lots of excess towing capacity there.


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