Lowsuv
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That is unfortunate.
You did not state the size and rating of your tires.
Based on your trailer weight I imagine you had an 205/75R15 load range C tire with a rating of about 1850 # each.
One way to gain some safety is to go to a tire with a higher load rating in pounds.
As you may already know there are several brands that offer an 225/75R 15 in a load range E tire. Those have a max load rating of 2850 # or so.
But it sounds like it is too late as you already have replaced yours.
There is no substitute for frequent tire inspection for cracking, keeping the air pressure to the max sidewall rating, and increasing your reserve capacity by upgrading the load rating from stock.
Thank you for alerting the rest of us.
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me&mybcs
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No curb hopping that i can remember. I was several hundred miles into a trip on interstates with just stops for gas and sleep, no city (curb) areas. I really don't think this was an issue from something i did driving - curb hopping, speed, whatever. These were the 2 tires on the side that sat in full sun all winter.
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I had an uneven saw tooth pattern on a pair of 3 year old Tow Max's last year. I'm under the impression it was either the lack of balancing, which had never been done, or the suspension, the shackles had oblong bolt holes and the bushings were shot. Of course I replaced them with Maxxis over the winter, time will tell...
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me&mybcs
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Thanks for that info. The TT is at the dealer for repairs and i'll sure be asking them to give all that stuff a good inspection. They were supposed to do that right before i left when i had the bearings packed but perhaps they missed something.
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Wes Tausend
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I wonder if tires that sit in the winter sun suffer some unusual fate. Perhaps the air in them, warmed by the sun, had excess moisture that seeped into the interior tire carcess touching the cool ground. It just does seem odd that some mysterious "sun-force" can cause layer separation of a normally homogenous material.
I know warm sunlight will lift well-stuck paint (blister) because of trapped moisture. The heat of sunlight causes vapor pressure. This process also appears to happen to some Filon sided campers, where the direct sunlight warms the moist humid underwood too fast and the vapor pressure has no quick route to escape other than lift the gell-coat (delamination). In the tires case, migrating moisture could be trapped within the rubber/belt, and road heat then cause a serious "lifting" force.
The gist would be to fill tires with the dryest air to avoid the above problem, such as compressed nitrogen perhaps. Or put those little moisture absorbing packs in them.
Well, we were speculating and all... 
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Wes Tausend
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Some interesting internet gleaned reasoning for tire separation:
From smartmotorist.com:
"Tread belt separations are usually the result of poor bonding during the manufacturing process. This can be caused by any of a number of factors:
Bonding problems can result from using a bad formula that does not bond well, even if the tire is built as specified.
Contaminants in the tire, including un-dispersed ingredients; products that are not supposed to be used, such as polypropylene to separate the rubber; water; and ingredients that have no business in a tire-making room (e.g., candy wrappers and tobacco juice)
Under-vulcanization
Lack of "tackiness" because the ingredients were old
Air trapped between layers of the tire
Improperly sized strips used in building the tire "
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From Robert Rubenstein.com/lawyer-attorney
"Why do tire treads and belts separate?
While there are a number of factors that contribute to belt and tire tread separation, the most common cause of belt separation involves metal not sticking to the rubber. When the sulfur inside the rubber is improperly mixed or something is wrong with the brass plating on the metal, improper adhesion occurs... "
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Tobacco juice??? 
Wes
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me&mybcs
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I'm really wishing i'd kept the tires now! What about the tire guy's suggestion of dry rot? He pointed out what might have been a crack in the sidewall of one of the tires that didn't slip the tread.
I'm starting to wonder if perhaps there is something going on with the TT that might have caused this. I really am careful about keeping the tires properly inflated, i parked the TT with the wheels up on plastic blocks over the winter so they wouldn't be on the ground and picking up moisture, and i definitely had the tires balanced when they were first installed and the weights were still on the wheels (I know because i asked the tech at the first tire shop i went to with the slipped tread if perhaps the tires should be rebalanced and he said the weights were still in place so no need). I'm almost never in places where i'd curb-hop (no curbs!) and i don't drive especially fast (65-70 tops). I'd been driving this camper and tires in the exact same manner for 3 years so i wonder if a tire defect wouldn't have shown up sooner?
What sort of TT problem might cause this sort of tire problem, if any? I had the bearings packed right before i left - is it possible there is something that wasn't done correctly there?
I have to admit i'm feeling a little gunshy on TTs right now. I actually had traded this one in on a new Open Range Roamer just before this trip. 30 miles from the dealer on the way home and i was flagged down because smoke was pouring out from the wheel - complete bearing failure, brake turned to charcoal, axle messed up. The dealer and manufacturer tried very hard to make that right but i chose to go back to the old one after that experience. Then my tires started disintegrating! Aye yi yi!
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halibutman214
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This is laughable! When they're Maxxis you guys can actually come up with some valid ideas as to why they may have failed.
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Most tire manufacturers forums say that if a tire fails, that usually within 100 miles or so, the other one on that side will fail do to the addittional weight and stress it takes. That is why I carry 2-spares and if I have a flat, I will replace both on that side.
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me&mybcs
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I'll keep that in mind! I know lots of people who carry 2 as well. My second one made it from Indianapolis to Bowman, ND and then back to Mitchell, SD (1600 miles or so) before it went.
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