What is the difference in plates and hitches for each vehicle, leaning toward the equinox
I wouldn't consider towing with a captiva. The thing barely had enough power to move itself, adding another person and a suitcase brought it to it's knees.
The ones we're looking at have a 3:43 rear end.
Sounds like you are getting bad information. As has been said before, Ford doesn't offer a 3.4X gear for the F-150. Most eco's sold around here are 3.55's with a few 3.31 and 3.73's thrown in. I agree with what others are saying, get the Max Tow package. This will be hard to find since few dealers stock the max tow option, but it's a great package when towing heavy like you will be. If you are happy with the performance of the Tundra, then I expect you will be very pleased with how the Ecoboost moves the trailer.
Hard to believe the frame could break or crack like that unless some other issue is going on or someone knows how to use Photoshop. I've been using PS for over 15 years and that would be easy to fake.
It happens, put trucks in extreme situations, and failures will occur.
Earlier in the year, I changed my spark plugs (yeah, I know, I'm awesum, right?) then the fuel control module above the spare tire. Then just a few weeks ago, I bit the bullet and had the dealership change that leaking exhaust manifold on the passenger side (they comp'ed me the manifold, only charge me labor!Hmmmm....). Been a really interesting year.
Today, my buddy is showing me his broken front coil springs. He had the part in the bed of his truck. It broke the bottom coil right off at the spring seat on both sides. I thought I'd check to see if they changed the design from his ('04) to mine ('07), so I crawled under mine to look. What do you think I saw?
Funny part was, two weeks ago we were riding the rails to trails on our bikes and when we left, we piled in the truck and just about the time I was going to start it, we heard a BANG! and the truck sort of lurched. I thought a tire popped. we all got out and looked a bit but nothing seemed out of the ordinary, so I wrote it off as parking break chatter. Sometimes when I set it too lightly, it will creep under load and groan a little. Turns out, the front passenger spring broke right at that very moment, while we were sitting still! Amazing! I just put two and two together today when I realized what happened.
He's got 104K on his Screw short bed and never towed nothing. I have 109K and tow at max GCWR about 10 trips a year. I smell a rat! Anybody know if there's a recall or service bulletin on this? I'm checking tomorrow, but don't know if the dealership will get the job. He paid his local mechanic $600 for both sides and non-OEM parts. I'm betting FoMoCo will want double that. Merry Christmas to me!
I've heard of Explorers busting coil springs, but not the F-150's. Mine is older than yours though and all 4 springs still are in one piece (knock on wood).
Where can you see that the trailer brakes failed? Ken
You only need to look at the picture to see that that trailer pushed that Ford SUV around like a toy. maybe the trailer brakes did not fail, maybe they were simply set wrong, either way, that trailer pushed that TV around into a jack knife and it will not do that if the brakes are working as they should.
Had he a dually we would not have this thread. that's my humble opinion.
Perhaps the driver had a heart attack and wasn't driving at all. The suggestion that the truck is inadequate is just that, a suggestion. It could be that the wreck wouldn't have happened if the driver had been pulling with a Dually, or maybe it wouldn't have changed a thing.
Good luck, we have a 2008 extended cab and as you, we were always a Bow-tie family.
We were excited about our first new truck,after 30,000 miles the transmission went bad. At 80,000 the intake manifold and cylinder head went bad. at 130,000 the transmission went a 2nd time. None of these issues turned our heads from being a Chevy family, but the final straw was the dealer who did the service they were the worst.
Good luck with your new Colorado. As for us the next truck will be something other than a Chevy. Hope the dealer is better than any of the ones in the upstate ny area.
Your experience is the exact opposite of my son's experience with his 2008 extended cab Colorado, bought new in November 2008.
He had 129K on the odometer when he finally traded it in. Problems...yes. A leaking power steering hose and a bad radio speaker. That's it.
He had the 5 cylinder and the Z 71 package.
He lives where the winters are long...about 5 1/2 months, snow is heavy and the temp plunges down to -25 to -35 C for sometimes weeks at a time.
Many times at work, there was no available plug in and his vehicle would be outside for 10 hours or more. Always quick start ups.
Consumer reports (yes, I know, it's all made up stuff, bla bla) had the Colorado at the top of it's most unreliable list in ~2009 Link.
Luckily, I don't think the new truck has ANYTHING to do with the old ones, so I wouldn't use past performance as a predictor of the future.
I have a new Explorer with the stock 3.5 V-6--pushing 300 hp. It runs fine, but 21 mpg is about all we're getting on the open road...
That sounded a little like a complaint. My explorer has 240 hp, and gets 15 MPG average over the last 9 years, best case scenario 18 on the open road. Towing is around 10 MPG.
I was a GMC guy till they went out of business on 2009... would never by government motor company vehicle
My fathers 200K mile Mercury Cougar was totalled in an accident on Saturday. When I was asking him what he plans to buy to replace it, he also mentioned avoiding Government Motors (his words).
The GM site does the same thing to me as well. You get to the engine choice, click on duramax plus package and you can go no further, it has been that way for weeks.
In other news, GM announced a recall affecting it's website...:W
Having driven them both at elevations over 10,000 feet, I see no difference from almost sea level (600-700 feet) when not towing. The fuel injection, computer control, and variable cam timing on todays modern cars takes care of the previous AFR altitude problem inherent with carbureted engines. The turbocharging (NOT supercharging, big difference) is just the icing on the cake. If I was buying a Flex, I'd opt for the Ecoboost if you're going to tow often.
What? :h :S
OP, you don't have to worry about the AFR. You have to worry about the lack of O2 at 10,000. You will lose about 3% of power/1000' of altitude because of that fact.
BTW a turbocharger is a supercharger. A turbo just describes on how the compressor is connected to the engine to power it.
And a Bastard is a child whose parents are unmarried, but that's not how the term is used these days. If you point at a Turbo, and call it a supercharger you'll get a lot of snickers and fingerpointing from car guys, even if it's technically accurate.
There are two F150 plants. DTP went down last week for approximately 4 weeks. Supposed to be back to work Sept. 22. Will slowly start backup building the 2015's. KCAP will go down for retooling in conjunction with Christmas break for 2-3 weeks. In the mean time we will continue to build 2014's while DTP builds 2015's!! Crazy huh!!
Well that's not what is being reported, I have read that they (2015) won't begin to show up until sometime in February. So the Detroit Truck Plant will be back on line building the new 2015 aluminum trucks September 22? Well I can tell you for sure there are no 2015's on any dealers lot. We are just now building our pre-production models. These are not for sale. Just gonna be crashed, tested, etc.
Note I said Wrong there will be NO F-150 2015 trucks built except the new aluminum truck and that will not come out until February 2015 at the earliest. If Ford has two F-150 plants, they should have taken one down this summer and changed it over I was under the impression that Ford was halting the steel bodied trucks in Sept. but it looks like the Kansas City facility will continue to build them through the end of the year?
I don't understand why the DTP was not taken down in June so they could launch the truck in September? Who is going to buy a old steel bodied truck?
Fleets, people who don't care, people who can't wait for the 2015's.
Sometimes, we auto enthusiasts forget that more than half of the driving population probably can't tell you what engine they have under the hood, or how many gears their tranny has. They might be able to tell you that the audio system is rockin' however.
I have yet to run into someone when the subject came up about the new f-150's that was aware they would be aluminum bodied. In general, people just don't care.
I probably wouldn't trust a smart car as far as I could push it. Which, I dunno, might be farther than I think!
I too would like to hear the story behind that comment. We have had 5 smart cars, both gas and diesel, for the office. They've been driven (collectively) a lot of miles with no problems of any kind.
In fact of all the people I know of thay have had a smart car, one person was unhappy with it, but they were the type of person who could break an anvil with a rubber hammer. They merely beat the car to death.
They are cool little cars, but not for me because:
MPG not very impressive considering size. Geo Metro's from the mid 90's could hit 40MPG no sweat.
Cost too much for what you get.
No standard trans available.
A Ford Fiesta with the 1 liter 3 banger turbo can be had for less than 17 grand and should be far more engaging to drive with the stick and 120hp.
I would like to get your opinions on my TV and setup.
I have a Palomino 18frb TT with a dry weight of 3306# and GVWR of 4750#.
I never tow with full tanks (except Propane, 1 tank). I have a tongue weight rating of 410 #. My TV is a 2005 Ford Sport Trac, 4.0 V6 automatic. I have a tow pkg class 3 with tranny cooler. I always tow with overdrive OFF. The Sport Trac has 125" wheel base which is about 12" more than an Explorer. It is just Me, my Wife, and a 7# Yorkie in the TV. I load one Ice chest (aprox 30#) and a 15# gas grill in the covered bed of the truck. I use a 600# WDH and friction sway bar.
This setup seems to work fine to me as far as towing power and stopping has not been a problem, including a quick stop to avoid hitting a deer last trip. But I have read so much on this site about the right size TV and safety and over taxing your TV, that I began to have concerns.
I would really appreciate your input good, bad, or other, on my setup.
Has anyone else towed with a Sport Trac?
If it's working well for you, in your circumstances, I wouldn't worry about it. You have a longer wheel base than I, and a slightly lighter trailer, even though I've got the V8. Unless you're just looking for a reason to pick up a new 1 ton diesel with 8 million ft. lbs. of torque....and in that case, yep, you need a diesel!
Here's your sign.... anytime you want to see work get done, with heavy loads... ships, freighliners, trains, whatever, where there is heavy weight involved, invariably, the drive plant chosen is a turbo diesel. End of subject matter. It's never a race, when work needs to be done, it's what kind of power your motor makes under the peak curve that matters, and how far away you can stay from being at the peak curve while doing the required work, leaving a margin of safety for the longevity of the motor.
Actually, in many of your examples, the drive plant chosen is actually electric. Trains for example, electric motors, that might be powered by diesel gen sets. Cruise ships are powered in the same manor.
It's also worth mentioning that nearly everywhere, engines are rated by hp. Certainly in the oil field engine skids are never measured by the torque output, always hp. Same goes for those motors on the cruise ships.
what I like about this is that it brings attention to the fact that you have to look at the big picture. Only focusing on one aspect (MPG or service costs) will give you a skewed view when comparing two trucks.
From what we've seen so far the ED is getting impressive fuel economy, but depressing service costs.
As far as the light they speak of that is on back order, is that a left over part from the days of Chrysler's super cheap interiors?
awesome upgrade, both the TT and Ford look like they are in showroom condition.
Do keep in mind you can't drive or park the 350 like you could the Tahoe, I'd hate to see those hips all banged up on such a clean truck!
I saw a 2015 F150 this morning. It was Crew Cab King Ranch.
Ironically, it did not look much different than a 2014 except for the taillights. Of course, it was not real light out this morning when I was next to it.
Your night vision might be going. I'm not saying they aren't related, but I wouldn't mistake one for the other with one eye closed and half asleep.. There isn't a single panel on the truck that hasn't changed, except for perhaps the roof??
The EB downhill mileage makes ZERO sense. The fuel cuts off when coasting, and the mileage should have been well into the 30's. Something doesn't add up there. I'm not suggesting it will match the mileage of any truck with 240hp,& a superior transmission; I'm merely pointing out that the numbers make no sense. (over 100 000miles of experience with all manner of late model F150's speaking here).
Not much of a comparison, as the was NO control at all of the many variables.I don't know about you, but there is no coasting downhill when I tow. If I let off the throttle, I am slowing down.
If that is the case, why are exhaust brakes on diesels so popular? And why is the Ecoboost faulted for not having enough engine braking when coming down from altitude?
I remember the article motortrend did on all 4 F-150 engines in 2011. The one they were most surprised by was the 3.7 V6.
All base model engines are leaps and bounds beyond what they were just a few short years ago.