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RE: 2012 Dutchman Voltage Review
Here is what I can share about my Voltage shopping experience. I visited Camping World here in Mesa, Arizona as they had about 16 Voltage models on the lot. The DW wanted to "touch and feel" the floor plan differences between the models so we spent 2 hours doing so.
Every time the sales person opened a unit up, I was amazed at how "unfinished" and messy they were. The sales person said that they would need a "week" on any Voltage just to make sure it was in "delivery condition". I couldn't believe simple items such as screws on cabinet door hinges could be missing to the point the door almost came off when opening it.
Sawdust, floor laminate pieces, carpet pieces, etc. where everywhere in almost every model. Then, in areas where glue was necessary for finishing, it was obvious no clean up had occurred after said glue application. The light pendants in almost every unit had an issue too.
Overall, I could not believe that a units listed for a MSRP of $115k could be in such a condition, from the factory.
Perhaps I'm spoiled with my Jayco buying experience because all of the Jayco units on the lot where in "take off and camp" condition. We are excited about getting a Voltage despite these observations and others issues; however, they (dealer/manufacturer) will be on their toes from day one on taking care of EVERYTHING.
I agree with many posters on this thread that quality is just not important any more to these manufactures. I call BS on the "it would cost more for better quality..." How about they hire people who take P R I D E in their craftsmanship!?!?
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garyhartaz
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05/09/13 09:32am |
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RE: Prescott Camping n riding
Good info. Trying to stay away from the parks with the noise enforcement aka quiet time. I'll try the dispersed camping areas.Are you into all night parties?
We'll I certainly don't like to shut the party down at 10p! Laughing around the camp fire, some good music playing, watching the rides from the day on the GoPro...sadly these things tend to tick others off to the point they complain we are "loud". Meanwhile, I can usually hear their TV volume at 200.
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garyhartaz
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05/08/13 04:21pm |
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RE: Prescott Camping n riding
Good info. Trying to stay away from the parks with the noise enforcement aka quiet time. I'll try the dispersed camping areas.
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garyhartaz
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05/07/13 07:36am |
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Prescott Camping n riding
Can someone share where to camp on state or blm land near Prescott, AZ with good riding trails and good pine coverage? We'll have a tent guest with us with their kids.
Thanks,
Gary
Ps. Camp Wood is off the table for this trip.
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garyhartaz
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05/06/13 09:30pm |
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RE: Be Safe Out There - Roll over in AZ
I am very familiar with that freeway. There is a wicked drop all the way from the mountains to the desert! Without engine braking - would almost be impossible to control your speed and would be real easy to burn out a set of brakes. Haven't yet pulled my TH down there but in my Suburban it is hard to keep speed under control.
Sorry, just noticed they were going the other way.
No you are correct, they were coming down not going up. They just got to the bottom on the first turn near the new wash bridge. Not to speculate but I have seen people come down the 17 to Black Canyon City easily doing 70 with a truck that was too little. From time to time, traffic slows in those curves...tick tock
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garyhartaz
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04/30/13 06:20pm |
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Be Safe Out There - Roll over in AZ
Seems to happen at least once per every three months in this area either going up I17 or coming down:
AZ Interstate Rollover
The tires on the truck look a little suspect if you ask me.
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garyhartaz
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04/29/13 02:20pm |
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RE: Macerator - The Accessory that should be standard
I'm not sure but from the last dump I just did, the macerator seemed faster. I would let it run for 45 seconds, stop it for 15 and then run it again at the same intervals. For some reason it seemed to drain the last bit faster than the 3"....
In any event, it works very well and clean up is a breeze. After all of the back washing, I will then hook the water hose up to the dump hose for even extra clean out although it is pretty damn clean otherwise.
Very please overall. Honestly, sitting in line waiting to dump is just a buzz kill.
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garyhartaz
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04/25/13 02:54pm |
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RE: Macerator - The Accessory that should be standard
Those of us with dump stations at the house don't need to spend the extra $$$. ;-)
The creek doesn't count :B
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garyhartaz
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04/22/13 06:18pm |
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RE: Macerator - The Accessory that should be standard
Not at all sure I agree with you on that one. WHY would everyone pay because SOME want a mercator system? Seems like a pretty expensive item (from a power standpoint) for dry camping or back woods camping.
True but it actually isn't a power hog at all and considering most rigs have dual battery these days, it isn't a big deal.
One thing I can say is that IF you had to purge grey in the "back woods", piping it 75-100ft from camp is a bonus.
Thanks for all of the good "heads-up" I already lay the law down when it comes to using our restroom and we put in a medical waste can for the feminine products. Our restroom is a "No Wipes" zone.
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garyhartaz
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04/22/13 03:47pm |
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Macerator - The Accessory that should be standard
I finally decided to get a macerator pump and I cannot believe these things just don't come with your TH or RV!
I can't tell you how much I hate waking up on the last morning of a trip and dread finding an RV dump station along the way home! Most of the time there is a line or even worse, it is "out of order" and I have to drive around looking for another station. Don't even get me going on the stations that require the driving accuracy compared to that of landing on a moving aircraft carrier!!!
Anyway, $225 is a lot of money but after emptying both the grey and black (70 gallons total) in less than 5 minutes at my house....S O L D! You can either dump to your clean out drain or your toilet. Since my drain is covered somewhere by landscaping, I simply just ran a 3/4' hose from the macerator into the toilet and presto....NO WORRIES!!!
I can't tell you how taking this one item of the "last day to-do list" just elevated my outing experiences for all of the future to come.
Just two little things to note with getting a macerator pump:
1) They will not provide you with enough wire so pickup either 12/14 gauge wire, about 25 ft will do in most cases but remember, this is to be wired to your battery IMHO.
2) Get a 3/4" industrial hose or if you just have $$$ laying around, try a 1" no matter your run length, up to 100ft. 5/8 is not going to cut it so don't kid yourself.
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garyhartaz
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04/22/13 12:36pm |
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RE: toyhauler name's
We call ours "Tiny House" and even have the license plate to match -> TNYHOUS
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garyhartaz
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03/28/13 12:09pm |
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RE: Anybody rig up an outside projector and screen?
I installed an HDMI outlet on the outside of the TH right above the door. I run a 50' HDMI cable to a ViewSonic projector that I can either do front or rear projection with. The screen is by O.E.G. and you can get it on Amazon. It is nice because it folds down into a very small storage bag.
Overall, it is awesome! We play XBOX, Wii, watch movies, games, etc.
http://csi.edirectglass.com/images/campscreen.jpg
http://csi.edirectglass.com/images/ufcscreen.jpg
http://csi.edirectglass.com/images/anotherscreen.jpg height=800 width=600
http://csi.edirectglass.com/images/screenatnight.jpg height=800 width=600
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garyhartaz
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03/26/13 10:12am |
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RE: Just Got this Last Week, got rid of the Boat.
You do know that that tailgate is not engineered to handle all that weight, don't you?
OP's tailgate already has damage so they might be thinking no harm, no foul until that 1600lbs of machine goes flipping backwards!
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garyhartaz
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03/22/13 04:47pm |
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RE: 2014 Voltage?
I have had a 2013 on order and last week the factory called to ask if I wanted them to continue building under the 2013 or wait 6-8 weeks and they would build it under the 2014 label. When I asked what that was about, they said improvements to the slide system and living room furniture would make it worth the wait. I agreed to wait.
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garyhartaz
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03/15/13 09:23am |
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RE: New Toy Hauler
This does not seem right. My 2012 RAM 3500 is getting 10.7 for 13K doing 75 and that is with various grades here in AZ. Around town, 14.4. It has 6100 miles on it and it is the Laramie Longhorn Mega Cab Edition 4x2 with the max tow package.
I would be interested in a review as well. My 2012 RAM 3500 is getting 8.5mpg towing just 12k...but going 75mph. However, even at 65 it gets just 9.5 and maybe 10mpg.
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garyhartaz
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03/02/13 02:34pm |
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RE: Toy Hauler Ramp Room
I am interested in getting a Ramp room like a Carefree for my tow hauler. I would like to know how the room attaches to the trailer. Anybody got pictures on how the room fastens to the trailer?
There are 5 twist hook eyes that you attach to the hauler with screws. The Carefree then attaches via the eyelets to the twist hooks. It does a very good job at keeping out the elements but it isn't a complete "seal" if you will. Here is my install:
http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/24498174.cfm
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garyhartaz
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02/26/13 07:46pm |
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RE: New Toy Hauler
We bought our first camper last year and it seems were gonna like it enough that were probably going to be looking at a Toy Hauler pretty soon. Ive been just lurking and reading here for a lil while but was finally gonna ask opinions.
The THs weve been looking at are of the triple axle nature, 18-19000lbs. No way that a 3/4 ton will be able to pull these correct? Ill be looking at a new truck some time in the next couple of months and just wanted to double check that ill need to bump up the the 1 ton if we go with a trailer this size. Going to suck for everyday use one fuel economy but if thats the route i need to go then so be it. Thanks for the advice.
Without a doubt, get the 1 ton. At the end of the day it is all about safety and while some may tell you that you could tow this type of TH with a 3/4, it doesn't mean safely.
Good luck with your selection and if you go 1 ton, go RAM 3500!
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garyhartaz
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02/25/13 08:21am |
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RE: How to quiet a generator
Solar and 4 6v batteries
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garyhartaz
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02/18/13 08:08am |
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RE: Advice on selling TH Please
Thanks to everyone. The DW and I sat down last night and came up with a solid plan. We'll start with Craigs and eBay. Over the weekend we are going to stage the hauler on our property and take pictures/video. I'll do the listings on Monday and see how it goes. This should be fun.
Again, thanks to everyone here for all of the great advice.
Gary
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garyhartaz
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01/18/13 08:12am |
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RE: Advice on selling TH Please
in AZ there should be some consignment dealers .
This is interesting. I am going to look into this. Thanks!
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garyhartaz
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01/17/13 08:17am |
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