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Trap

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I've talked to a couple of people recently who have claimed that the Honda 3000 won't run there 15k AC. Just wondering if any of you have that problem and would 2 honda 2000 with parralel kit do better.

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My BIL runs his with a Yamaha 3000iseB. It uses the battery for an extra 500 watts for quick burst, like starting the AC.


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They should get a "SuperBooste" kit, that will give extra torque to the compressor motor, dropping the amperage requirement to start the compressor motor.

I have a 4 KW Onan generator that is loud, and want to replace it with a Honda EV 4010 water cooled RV generator. It will run the A/C and microwave at the same time.

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Some people make their own Honda Paraell kits, however I have not seen any of them, or the Honda factory kit. Because the kit assigns one generator to be the lead generator and set the frequency, I would stick to the factory kit myself. Perhaps if I saw what goes into the factory kit I could tell someone it is or is not required.

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It runs ours, no problem. Just don't try and have anything else on that is a big draw - micro, water heater, etc.


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Trap wrote:

I've talked to a couple of people recently who have claimed that the Honda 3000 won't run there 15k AC. Just wondering if any of you have that problem and would 2 honda 2000 with parralel kit do better.

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By no means are all 15K air conditioners created equal...

We bought a Honda EU3000i at Camping World when we still lived in Texas. The store folks couldn't guarantee that it would work with a 15K unit, so they said to bring it back within a couple days if it didn't work.

Early morning, no problem starting up the A/C. Late afternoon with 90+ temps? No way. Kicked into overload every time the compressor tried to start. And that was at 600 ft above sea level. There was no telling what it would do at higher elevations, and I wasn't about to take a chance.

So... back in the box it went, and we came home with two EU2000i's and the parallel operation kit.

Since then, no problem whatsoever running the A/C whatsoever. The only way I've tripped the twins into overload so far was by running the A/C with the electric water heater in econo mode. They performed great at 8500ft when camping at Grand Canyon North Rim without the hi altitude jets.

The nice part about the two EU2000i's is that I can stow them in the basement of the trailer without too much trouble. The only downside is that they will only run for about five hours before running out of gas. There are plenty of designs for gravity feed fuel systems on these forums if you want to run them for 12-14 hours continuously, though, and I'll probably break down and do that eventually.

Regardless of which route you go, here's my advice....

First, try to test out your setup before driving off the store lot. Failing that, get an agreement from the store manager (as we did) to be able to return it if it doesn't work. Had we bought the EU3000i during the spring or winter, we'd have been stuck with a $2000 generator that we couldn't use when we needed it most.

Second, if there's any doubt about the generator meeting your power needs, resist the urge to save a few bucks and buy it from a brick and mortar dealership. Had we bought the EU3000i online (or worse, chosen the Kipor 3500 I was considering earlier in the year), swapping it for the twin EU2000i's wouldn't have been an option.


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Trap wrote:

I've talked to a couple of people recently who have claimed that the Honda 3000 won't run there 15k AC. Just wondering if any of you have that problem and would 2 honda 2000 with parallel kit do better.

Thanks Trap

The information I'm about to give is about three years old and things could have changed since then.
Beware: The Canadian version of the Honda EU2000 generator can not be run parallel with Honda's connecting kit. The kit is not available in Canada (actually, my information was gleamed in Ontario only) and there are no in/outputs on the generator itself for connecting two together.
Having said that, you can make your own connection kit, hook them together via the regular 120 V outlets, save a lot of money and live happily ever after. If you buy them in the USA, over the Internet and have them delivered to someone in the States, you will pay less than $ 900.00 US each (end-price). You can also go to your friendly Canadian neighbourhood rip-off store and pay $ 1600.00 Canadian, plus 14% tax (Ontario).
If you have any other questions about these units, send me a PM.
I have made my own connection cable box and an auxiliary fuel supply.
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I had the Honda EU3000i and was quite satisfied with it and it ran my old ac very well. When we trade campers and got the 15k ac I was a little concerned if it was able to provide long term power. So I traded in my Honda on the Yamaha 3000iseb because it provided additional boost and runs a little stronger. The Yamaha will idle back slightly in econo mode to help conserve fuel. I never tried to run the 15k ac with my Honda, I still wonder if it would have been fine, but I am very satisfied with my Yamaha and is a little easier to manhandle than the Honda.

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The information I'm about to give is about three years old and things could have changed since then.
Beware: The Canadian version of the Honda EU2000 generator can not be run parallel with Honda's connecting kit. The kit is not available in Canada (actually, my information was gleamed in Ontario only) and there are no in/outputs on the generator itself for connecting two together.
Having said that, you can make your own connection kit, hook them together via the regular 120 V outlets, save a lot of money and live happily ever after. If you buy them in the USA, over the Internet and have them delivered to someone in the States, you will pay less than $ 900.00 US each (end-price). You can also go to your friendly Canadian neighbourhood rip-off store and pay $ 1600.00 Canadian, plus 14% tax (Ontario).
If you have any other questions about these units, send me a PM.
I have made my own connection cable box and an auxiliary fuel supply.
Egon.


Thanks for the info I did know that if we want the 2-2000 we would have to buy south of the border. I'll save this and may take you up on your offer.

Thanks Trap

* This post was edited 10/21/06 08:37pm by Trap *

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I own a Honda 3000ii. Here is my story. On my rig I have a Coleman 15.5K AC unit. If I run just the AC and my little refrigerator off of the generator, it does the job without a glitch. But, add to the load my PD9140 converter, each time the compressor cycles, the generator trips into safety mode. i.e. engine still runs, but not producing any power. At first, I just shut everything down, shut down and restarted the generator. After the fifth or sixth time doing this. I decided to shut the AC down. Well, I had a problem with the rig arching each time I plugged into shore power. I found out it was the converter causing the arch. I put a regular wall switch in the incoming electrical line to the converter. While working on the rig, I flipped the switch to shut down the converter, forgot to flip it back again. Got hot, turned on the AC unit and it worked all day without a problem. Flipped the converter switch, generator went into safe mode. Now, I don't run the converter and AC at the same time. I wish I had bought the two 2000 watt. By the way, they are much lighter than the 3000 and you can use one at a time if you don't need the full power. Sorry for the long answer. My choice would to go for two 2000. Carl

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