When I used to ride bicycles a lot I had a tire pump on the down tube. This is about the size of a baton. More than once I had a large dog come after me. I would always stop, grab the pump, and put the bike between me and the dog. It was very unsafe to try to outrun them, some dogs are dumb enough to bite a tire or ankle.
We actually had a dog that would get out of the yard and go after other dogs. It was a Chow mix. She would break through the wood fence by hitting it in a full run. Put up an electical wire. Dog would lick the wire to see if it was on. We were very careful, always on a leash, etc. Finally, the dog bit the DW in anger because another dog was around and she could not get to it. We had to put the dog down. It was very sad. Our greatest fear was that the dog would injure another dog or CHILD.
I have a question that doesn't involve the incident. Where in the name of all that's good and Holy does one live in Four Corners???? Unless you live in an Indian vendor's tent, there is nothing there. Or is this someplace different entirely? Just curious.
Four Corners is a general term meaning any of the towns in the four states, NM, UT, AZ, CO.
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BULLETLS1 wrote: also there is some form of dog-mace, is different than for humans...
a CO2 extingisher fired close to the snouth....
besides, carring a small extinguisher in hand is less fearfull to others than to carry a spray-baton-or handgun!
While I think that's a great (and effective) idea - it's against the law to carry these in Michigan (other than when moving stock) and probably other states, as well??
Bear spray, on the other hand, seems pretty legal.... :-)
BCSnob wrote:
BULLETLS1 wrote: also there is some form of dog-mace, is different than for humans...
a CO2 extingisher fired close to the snouth....
besides, carring a small extinguisher in hand is less fearfull to others than to carry a spray-baton-or handgun!
I carried the dog mace (Muzzle brand) and found it does nothing if the loose dog is intent on getting your dog. A loose, aggressive Bassett Hound charged my leashed 45-pound chow mix when we were walking in a city park. I blasted him good in the face with the mace and he just kept coming. I picked up my dog and started kicking to keep him away. I got bit in the leg twice before a kick caught him in the snout and he ran back home. I talked to the Animal Control Officer and he said most of the time when an attacking dog is "high" it won't even notice something like pepper spray or mace.
Walking sticks and canes are generally legal, where batons are not in most states.
It is going to be permissible to harm an attacking dog if necessary to protect yourself and your dog, as long as your actions are reasonable and in proportion to the situation. However, if you're stupid enough to announce to the world that you're going to kill any dog that comes near yours, be prepared for a lot of problems should that happen. Prior intent to kill and self defense do not mix well.
Often when I'm walking my 100 lb. Mastiff cross on his leash, he's attacked by cute little mutts. Little yappy things come right up barking and jumping up towards his face and sometimes nipping at his feet.
Jake quite likes little dogs though, so there's never been any injury as a result. He stands and tolerates the aggressive behaviour with great patience, waiting for the little dog's owner to get it under control. Often I get a look from him, his eyes imploring me to keep on walking and get him away from the little ankle-biter.
On occasion, we've had little dogs follow us home because they're not under the control of their owners, or contained within a fenced yard.
My uncle had a well trained Doberman, Suzie Q; when he would walk it past a house in the neighborhood (on the sidewalk with a hedge between the sidewalk and house) a little dog would start barking inside the front door. The owner would then let the little dog out which would then run around the hedge and start barking and harassing his Suzie. Suzie would ignore the little dog. One day during this routine my uncle yelled out, "Suzie, put that dog down". The owner came right out and took his dog in; that was the last time the little dog was let out when Suzie walked by.
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