This is mainly addressed to the younger people who normally post in the toy hauler forum.
I'm a Class A owner, but I also live in the desert and have quads that we ride out to Spangler and/or Charlies Place (wagon wheel) where a very large group of the toy hauler crowd visits every weekend. I have absolutely no problem with the TH crowd, in fact, most that I have met seem to be a really nice group of people. Many times I have visited the different clusters and have always been welcomed and provided with good conversations, a cold beer and great music.
However, I do resent being called a "bluehair", a name that is used very frequently in the TH forum but NEVER to my face! This is really an extremely disrespectful name that is also vile and unnecessary. Those of you who use this word show an astonishing lack of consideration of your elders (including your parents) and should be ashamed of yourselves.
Being young once and doing my share of raising hell, I can definitely relate to loud music (I do wear hearing aids now, as they probably will later in life) partying, drinking kegs of beer, and enjoying yourself to the fullest. It's all part of the cycle and I fully endorse having a great time. That said, I most certainly respect others feelings and STILL say "sir" and "ma'am" to those 10 (or so) more years my senior as a sign of respect.
So, before you rip me apart here, stop and think how you would like to be addressed in your later years. Or better yet, what would your Mom think if you called her a "bluehair".
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Maybe it's retaliation for those AARP members who sneer at tattooed/mowhawked young adults and call them "hippies"?? LOL!!
The next time I went out riding with a group who might refer to "Bluehairs"..... I'd make sure my own hair was dyed BRIGHT blue and spiky - don't forget the leather and spiked accessories - and leave 'em in my dust ;-)
If this is addressed to people in the Toy Hauler Forum, then wouldn't it be better to post there?
And I really don't get offended by people I don't know and that are beneath me be it age, respect, intelligence, RV type, social status.....
Really can't agree with the description of "vile" for the term. Would "old codger", "old fart" or "prune" be better? BTW, I am no spring chicken either and I am not offended by any of these terms.
"Nobody knows how we got to the top of the hill, but since we're on our way down, we might as well enjoy the ride". ("The Secret Of Life", James Taylor).
If this is directed at the people who post in the toyhauler forum, why are you posting here in ATC?
We are caught in the middle - although we have a toyhauler, we haul it with our class C. We have friends that have class A's and haul their toyhaulers with those as well.
Our friends range in age from the kids to 60+ in our group.
Bluehair refers to a frame of mind, more than an age group.
If we (toyhaulers) are out in the middle of the desert and having a party (which tends to be loud and late - we like to drink cocktails, sing, dance and be generally silly) do not park with in 50 feet of us and then complain about the noise. This has happened before. By the way, as a general rule, if there are more than 3 rigs parked together - expect a party!
We go to the desert for a reason - to be loud and ride our toys. There is plenty of desert for all of us.
Again - Bluehair refers to a frame of mind - not an age.
And if you see me in the desert...come by and say hi.
I took a traffic accident report years ago where one party was a bicyclist who had been knocked off his bicycle by a slow moving big white Cadillac that didn't stop. When I asked if he could identify the driver, he said: All I saw was a little blue head looking under the top of the steering wheel.
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I frequently use the term "Q-Tip" to refer to someone with white hair. Mind you, my husband is only 48 and is very gray. Old farts are old farts, the elderly are the elderly, the older gentleman or lady is just that-I agree, it's a state of mind. Some of you need to remember that when you use use the term of "younger people" or "teenager" generically and with disdain. And remember that the term "silverback" in the business world is a sign a respect, despite the fact it refers to gorillas.
Blue Hair is probably the least offensive term used to describe the elders.....I don't find it offensive at all. And its a lot nicer than the term that I use to describe some of the younger tatooed, body pierced aaaaaa "youngsters" I've seen.
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Personally, I call my mom "Grouchy Old Lady." Yes, to her face, and frequently! We have a very good relationship. My oldest brother started it, right after he got out of the Marine Corps.
I've heard the same brother, who used to ride motorcycles, refer to older bikers as "grey-hairs" in a very respectful way. On the other hand I've got a sister that could call you "sir" and give you the worst insult you've had all year. Come to think of it, I could do the same and have more than once in my former life.
One of the things I learned at the very beginning of my former life, many years ago, was that the B word that my girlfriends and I had always (and still do!) throw around as more or less a compliment, is very much an insult in other sub-groups of American society. Very much.
I think a lot of things are meant according to what is the norm in a person's social/family circle, what terms they were brought up with, and what their intention is. So I wouldn't recommend you take offense at a term unless the context it is given in or something you know about the way that person views that term indicates that it was meant as such.
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