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Posted: 04/30/10 08:34pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

rick83864 wrote:

This combo is not legal in Cali. (Double balls)
Also no triple tow in Cali
To OP, I have spent decades vacationing on the river and wish I had a buck for every double tow I've seen pulled over by the CHP. Just because my state allows it doesn't mean Cali does. I'll link a site that might help without digging through all the VC's of Cali.
Certain states have laws in which your home state does not apply. A example is Cali 55 mph towing speed limit. Just because in Arizona is what 75 mph does not make it legal in Cali.
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If your still unsure you can e-mail the CHP and they are very good at returning your questions. Might take a week but they do respond.


The link you provided is the same link that I provided a couple posts back, unless I am confused what you are saying is that it is illegal yet the link you provided says it is??


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rick83864 wrote:

dalehelman wrote:

Most all of the western states no problem except WA. and OR. We have a 32 ft class A and tow a jeep with a dune buggy on a trailer behind the jeep. Its 65ft long a regular RV train.

This combo is not legal in Cali. (Double balls)
Also no triple tow in Cali
To OP, I have spent decades vacationing on the river and wish I had a buck for every double tow I've seen pulled over by the CHP. Just because my state allows it doesn't mean Cali does. I'll link a site that might help without digging through all the VC's of Cali.
Certain states have laws in which your home state does not apply. A example is Cali 55 mph towing speed limit. Just because in Arizona is what 75 mph does not make it legal in Cali.
Towing laws
If your still unsure you can e-mail the CHP and they are very good at returning your questions. Might take a week but they do respond.


Excellent advise on calling the CHP directly they are very responsive.

OP - Based upon your repeated questions I decided to dig deeper and provide some support to my response... looks like you may be correct in your interpretation I was incorrect my apologies. There are some specific things you need to watch for and other posters provided them.


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I must be confused as many of my friends pull doubles to Glamis and many of them are AZ LEOs. So either they are waiting to get pulled over by CHP or interpreted the CA law that because AZ allows it they can as well. I'll inquire with them and see what they say.


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California allows it but you must have a commercial license


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California does allow double trailers you are limited to 65 feet if the first trailer is over 28'6". It must be a fifth wheel with a kingpin and fifth wheel hitch no gooseneck ball conversions I believe second trailer is limited to 16 or 18 feet but I dont do it so I am not sure. You must have a commercial Drivers license with double/triple end. Or non commercial Class A with double endorsement.

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In summary, nonresidents may tow two trailers with a non-commercial license IF their base state allows it. However, they would still need a valid medical certificate per 12502 CVC.


It seems clear to me that the law applies differently for residents and non-residents. I live in Arizona, it is legal for me to tow a trailer behind my fifth wheel as long as the total length is 65 feet or less.


In summary, nonresidents may tow two trailers with a non-commercial license IF their base state allows it

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Posted: 05/01/10 07:35am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I don't want to get into the fine print of this subject, but during dune riding season in the Glamis/Ogilby Rd. area, go sit along I-8 coming out of Zona, ride along Cal. 86 from I-10 to the Brawley/El Centro area and lets us know what you view. I do know, don't look for CHPS as they must be on a holiday. Only place to bother you will be the 25 MPH zone in the x-road town of Westmoreland on 86.

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rick83864 wrote:

dalehelman wrote:

Most all of the western states no problem except WA. and OR. We have a 32 ft class A and tow a jeep with a dune buggy on a trailer behind the jeep. Its 65ft long a regular RV train.

This combo is not legal in Cali. (Double balls)
Also no triple tow in Cali
To OP, I have spent decades vacationing on the river and wish I had a buck for every double tow I've seen pulled over by the CHP. Just because my state allows it doesn't mean Cali does. I'll link a site that might help without digging through all the VC's of Cali.
Certain states have laws in which your home state does not apply. A example is Cali 55 mph towing speed limit. Just because in Arizona is what 75 mph does not make it legal in Cali.
Towing laws
If your still unsure you can e-mail the CHP and they are very good at returning your questions. Might take a week but they do respond.


Hey Rick,

I see doubles on ball hitches just about every weekend... Can you provide the VC that says the first trailer has to be a 5th wheel? I've never found it in the VC????

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Azbowhunter you are correct. The front trailer has to be a 5er and if it is legal in your home state you are legal. The DOT form is the same in all states and when you get a yearly physical you can ask the doctor to fill one out for you.

Oregon, Washington and British Columbia however are not as accomodating. When traveling North on 95 we stop in McDermit and hook the quads to my wife,s truck until we are in Idaho.


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CA DOT Non Resident double towing.

According to this CA DMV document an aviation medical certificate of any class is also acceptable.

"Effective October 1, 2004, DMV will accept only a Medical Examination Report (DL 51) with a revision date of 2/2004 or later, or a current medical form (containing the new blood pressure guidelines) approved by the Federal Highway Administration or the Federal Aviation Administration."


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