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69 Avion

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Here is a picture of the AC in operation on the camper. It works great and only uses 450 watts.




This is a picture of the new Black Water tank.




The tank hasn't been welded yet. We were trying to fit it in and check the fittings, etc. before it was welded out.
This is what it looks like in the camper.

It is a tight fit, but it will actually rest on all four sides of the floor. I am only going to use one piece of 3/4" plywood above it instead of 3-1/2" of plywood stacked on top of the original tank. This tank is heavier than the original tank, but once I pull out the extra 2-3/4" of plywood, the weight of this tank is about the same.
The new tank should be around 12 gallons whereas the original was around 8 gallons.

I'm not even going to mention why there are 3 pieces of aluminum running vertical, up the wall, instead of one.

* This post was edited 07/30/12 07:49pm by 69 Avion *


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69 Avion - Mmmmm, very nice fabrication work there - looking excellent.

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I designed the tank and it is being built by Premier Industries in Phoenix. They do fantastic work.
They are doing all the stainless steel fabrication on this unit, including the ss transition for the AC and the straps for the water tank.

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69avion wrote:

I'm not even going to mention why there are 3 pieces of aluminum running vertical, up the wall, instead of one.


I'm a little unclear about the vertical aluminum but I suppose it has to do with bracing? Maybe I'm not following closely enough, but you are really moving. My apologies if I'm asking about something you've already explained.

And along those lines, why is the AC placed in the window? Am I to understand that the camper won't be mounted in the back of a pick-up? I seem to remember something like that, but not sure.

Truly beautiful black water tank, if that's an appropriate thing to say.





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67avion wrote:

69avion wrote:

I'm not even going to mention why there are 3 pieces of aluminum running vertical, up the wall, instead of one.


I'm a little unclear about the vertical aluminum but I suppose it has to do with bracing? Maybe I'm not following closely enough, but you are really moving. My apologies if I'm asking about something you've already explained.

And along those lines, why is the AC placed in the window? Am I to understand that the camper won't be mounted in the back of a pick-up? I seem to remember something like that, but not sure.

Truly beautiful black water tank, if that's an appropriate thing to say.

The one vertical piece of aluminum is to accept the right side of the fiberglass cover that goes under the sink. The other two cover up mistakes of a wall panel that was cut way to short.

The AC is in the window because I refused to put one on the roof. The AC isn't set up to travel with it in that location. It is made to put there when you set up camp. The camper is being built to use on the trailer or the truck even though I plan on keeping it on the trailer. The AC obviously can't be used with the truck. What I like about it is that it only draws about 460 watts. If they made a real small profile unit that would only draw 460 watts for the roof, I would consider it, but to buy a large AC unit to put on the roof just isn't necessary on a camper. Besides, I don't want to have to carry a 3000 watt generator to run it.

* This post was edited 07/31/12 05:29pm by 69 Avion *

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67 Avion
How are you coming along on yours ? Haven't even mounted mine this season yet , too much family LOL . Planning a trip to northern Maine for mid August , the black flies should almost be tame by then .


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ticki2 wrote:

67 Avion
How are you coming along on yours ? Haven't even mounted mine this season yet , too much family LOL . Planning a trip to northern Maine for mid August , the black flies should almost be tame by then .


Don't ask, heh.

I got involved with construction projects this Spring that went on and on. Meanwhile, all of the parts to be replaced in the camper are sitting in the shed. Every time I think I have a stretch of time to get it done, something happens. So, I find it easier to sit here and watch these other guys go at it....they're all doing fantastic jobs.

I think this is the rhythm that many of us develop, where we have intense periods of work on the camper (or intense periods of travel) then things go in another direction, yet again.

One thing for sure. My sweet wife Jane will not hear of us traveling anywhere until the camper is !!!!!!done!!!!!!

Gives me motivation, as the Marines say. But, apparently not quite enough. I'll guarantee you, yet again, that I will be on the road this fall with Sweet Jane. If not, then wait till next year.

69avion - on the AC. You don't want to place an AC on the roof? And you don't want to carry a 3000w generator? I feel the same way, partly because I simply don't like the way it looks up there. But recently I've been thinking that a low profile unit might actually be OK. But, your alternative is to carry along a window mounted AC for camping? How do you think that is going to work out?

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Well we have been camping around Alaska in the the Avion. Mom, dad and 3of the 4kids. Got this iPad while on our trip. I see that there has been a lot of activity on the Avion group! My wife and twins stayed in the TC at Elmendorf AFB campground, while my other son and I went to Boy Scout camp. My wife now has a list of to dos for the Avion... But now we will be ordering up the Engle fridge/freezer. Have been taking lots of pics. Saw a momma black bear and her cub yesterday. Well gotta get back on the road!
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67avion wrote:

ticki2 wrote:

67 Avion
How are you coming along on yours ? Haven't even mounted mine this season yet , too much family LOL . Planning a trip to northern Maine for mid August , the black flies should almost be tame by then .


Don't ask, heh.

I got involved with construction projects this Spring that went on and on. Meanwhile, all of the parts to be replaced in the camper are sitting in the shed. Every time I think I have a stretch of time to get it done, something happens. So, I find it easier to sit here and watch these other guys go at it....they're all doing fantastic jobs.

I think this is the rhythm that many of us develop, where we have intense periods of work on the camper (or intense periods of travel) then things go in another direction, yet again.

One thing for sure. My sweet wife Jane will not hear of us traveling anywhere until the camper is !!!!!!done!!!!!!

Gives me motivation, as the Marines say. But, apparently not quite enough. I'll guarantee you, yet again, that I will be on the road this fall with Sweet Jane. If not, then wait till next year.

69avion - on the AC. You don't want to place an AC on the roof? And you don't want to carry a 3000w generator? I feel the same way, partly because I simply don't like the way it looks up there. But recently I've been thinking that a low profile unit might actually be OK. But, your alternative is to carry along a window mounted AC for camping? How do you think that is going to work out?

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I got the idea from TouringDan on the Air Forum.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f427/5000-btu-hr-ac-and-1000-watt-genny-91215.html
We aren't the only ones that don't want to run a large generator. By the way, I ran the AC from early this morning when I got started working on the camper. I went into it after lunch and I had to turn it up. It was set on 70 degrees and it was cold in there. It was so humid in Phoenix today that the AC was dripping condesation out of it. It works great and no more BTUs are needed to cool that camper.


I got the new FRP board in the bathroom and the new Black Water tank was put in and tested. So far, no leaks. I am giving it a 24 hour test. Notice the schedule 80 PVC nipples instead of adapters. There is an 8" flange on the front side of the Black Water tank that allows the tank to actually rest on the front of the floor. The original tank missed it by approximately 4". This tank is 3-1/2" wider, toward the front and with the 2 x 2 x8" long angle ss welded to the tank I feel real comfortable with carrying this tank. What makes it even nicer is that the tank is actually the support for the toilet. I only have one piece of 3/4" plywood that I painted and put on top of the tank. It is plent strong. I filled it with water and then jumped on the board and everything was fine. I weighed the old tank (empty) and wood and the new tank (empty)and the 3/4" wood and the new tank combo is approx. 9# heavier with about 4 gallons more capacity.






This is a stainless steel band that I had made for the fiberglass cover under the tanks. I had 1/4 x 20 stainless steel nuts tacked to it so that I can have this band fiberglassed into the inside of the cover. I can than attach my aluminum diamondplate to the bottom if it without worrying about it coming loose.




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The stainless steel Black Water tank passed my 30 hour test with no leaks whatsoever. I hadn't hooked up the complete discharge piping until I knew that the tank didn't have any issues. My guesstimate was off on what it will hold. I was able to fill 3, 5 gallon buckets, close to the top, and the forth one had about one gallon in it. I also spilled at least 2 gallons of water while trying to fill the 5 gallon buckets. So, as far as I can tell, it will hold about 17 to 18 gallons, maybe a little more. Not a bad improvement.

I was also able to drill out my aluminum diamond plate for the fiberglass cover. I think it will look great under there.

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