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makes alot of sense to me keep it going and can't wait to see pics

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Posted: 03/08/12 09:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks. I'm glassing the floor as I get weather and time. I'm looking to start going vertical this weekend and I'll post some then.


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This weekend we got a break in the incessant rains we've had, so I was able to start standing walls up. Overall length will wind up around 13' with a 4X4 slideout off the back to give me length I need for the bed, the width will be 6' inside and the height an inch or two over that. The panels aren't glued in place yet: I'll take them all down and glue them in once they're all shaped. The thickened epoxy I'm using is pretty hard so I'll do as much of the sanding as possible first so I'm not trying to sand down a hard glue line surrounded by soft foam.

I've built three temporary 5' X 5' frames to hold the foam in place until the outside is shaped and glassed, then I'll dismantle them from inside and glass the inside.

I made up the door months ago as a tester to see if it was a viable build method. I was impressed with the rigidity, especially as compared to the weight, and would suggest this for anyone needing to make a mostly-flat panel for a mod of their own. The door is clamped temporarily into its position and, being 6' tall, shows about where the headliner will be (about an inch above that)

The trailer is sitting on cinder blocks rather than its wheels, so it gives a little better idea of the overall height once I put the 12" wheels on.

The top edges to the roof will be canted in as well: I don't need big overhead cabinets because I don't want to have any weight up there so I'm eliminating those square corners from the cross section altogether. There will still be small cubbies up there because I'm gusseting the corners.

The roof will wind up @ 4' wide. I'm going to glass up some curved roof spars and use two 1/2" 4X8 foam sheets to give me a healthy camber on the roof. I have a bunch of windows, including a couple pieces of tempered glass for skylights, but I'm thinking of cutting everything out of plexi instead - MUCH lighter and harder to break.


I'm thinking of putting a skidplate of alum diamond plate on the underside of the back wall: the glass isn't going to provide much protection should I drag it while crossing a creek or ditch.


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Nice work lefty, and keep those pics coming!


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Good design work, canting the walls out like that. Standing by for more progress pics.


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Thanks guys. It's kind of funny how the sides came to be that shape: I was thinking about the general inside shape of a trailer in terms of ergonomics. I don't need the space in the bottom corners because most of it will be inside the cabinetry, so why not cut it out ?
Same thing with the overhead cabinets: I don't want to carry weight that high in such a light body, so why not just leave them out ?

I've only got 63" inside width, so it gives me an extra foot on top of that. It's a bit of a hassle at the door and I've got a couple ways I can shape the transition. Fortunately, this stuff is really easy to work and if need be I can cut it out, glue in some fresh foam and start again if I don't like it. Nothing's permanent till I start glassing...and even then, glass is easy to rework.

I'm completely clueless as to a 'look' or color schemes or whatever so if anyone with a good eye sees something in the shape as it goes together, let me know. At this point, I've tentatively dubbed it 'Project Glacier' because that's about the speed I'm building at !

More pics should be up this weekend (barring a monsoon).

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Keep on with the "glacial" look, plenty of advantage to having an ice colored rig, keeps the heat down in the summer and is stealthy as heck in the winter.

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Project Glacier continues to creep along...

I have a couple fixed back windows from Ranger pickups that I'll be using as skylights in those canted top panels of the walls. The height on those is from 60 -75" off the floor, so the windows will be in one's line of sight while at the galley and you can see the stars at night from the bed. Or the raindrops, as the case may be...

I got the curve for the nose mocked up using a batten (though it's a little tough to see in the pic):

It's just a ball park because the 1" foam won't give me enough room to sand to that curve. If I wanted to maintain that curve, I would do it in at least two stages, since the foam doesn't bend. Alternately, I can kerf the foam to get it to bend and assemble it like an Airstream's nose.

Here's a shot with the roughed-out roof section in place to show what the final cross section will look like. From the floor to the bottom of the roof spars is 75"

The portapotti is there as a sample for setting up the nose - it will have its own vented compartment (where the drill is) closed off by a bulkhead. I had to make sure I could build the height up to a comfortable 16" sitting height and still have enough sitting headroom under the curve of the nose. It was a bit of an ergonomics balancing act but that's what determined the height of the front wall and the start point of the curve. Carrying the canted walls forward will give me much-needed elbow room in the head. and might provide me enough space for an externally accessed locker for a 10 lb LPG bottle on each side, though I may have to go with horizontal bottles to make it work. My original plan was to transition from angled to vertical walls where the nose begins to narrow.

Next I need to finish the door frame and offer it up so I can fair the plane of the extended side into the plane of the door, which is at the edge of the trailer frame. Then I have to transition back out to the sloped bottom on the nose to match the other side. I tried visualizing it by drawing it out, but the foam is so easy to shape it's easier to just hack at a foam panel until fits where it needs to go. Once the sides are in, I can start cutting the triangular pieces to make up the curve of the nose - that will be done like staves for a barrel, only as a cone rather than a cylinder. The leading edge will be shaped from a block of foam, though I had thought about incorporating a 5' pipe vertically to the front wall to take a 1 5/8 pipe internally for a satellite dish...but a tripod is a much simpler solution...

Once I have the overall shape built in foam, I'll start taking the panels off the frames one by one to glass them. Both sides will be done as single panels from floor to ceiling. The roof cap and back wall are two more panels and the nose will probably be easiest to handle as two pieces like a clam shell. I'll put a layer of 6oz cloth on both the inside and the outside, then remount the panels to the frames. Once the shape is all back together and glued up, I'll tape and fair the seams. Then a final layer of 6oz cloth over the outside, final filling and sanding, then paint.

I'm still easily on track to start glassing mid-May as the temps warm up. I have a trip into the city planned for then, so I'll pick up my fiberglassing stuff from the wholesaler in town where it's about 2/3 the price.

Besides the door frame, I also want to start gusseting the walls and rear panel to make them stiff enough that I can glass them without them distorting out of shape.

I think this is the paint I'm going to use:

It's actually meant as a nonskid deck covering but with a smooth roller should go on as a thick paint. I need to play with it a little more to see if it will stick to vertical surfaces without sagging, but from what I've used so far I think it will work. I put some on a boat deck for a customer who decided to go back to teak decks, so I should be able to get the open gallon can for next to nothing(it's almost full). At the very least, I know it will be great for lining lockers and for doing the floor.

At this point, when I wheel the trailer around it still feels like there's no additional weight on it from when it was just a flat deck, and I'm sure the frames weigh more that the foam does...

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speed of a glacier i must be real slow i started mine this past thanksgiving and i don't even have shell finished

all kidding aside is looking good.. wonder how your method would work for a class c motorhome

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Do you know about fan-fold insulation? it is 1/4" thick and is sold in a pack of 4' x 50', in my area. If you have to make a radical curve, you could use multiple pieces of the 1/4" polystyrene, gluing them together with 3M spray foam adhesive to hold the shape.

I'm really liking this project, it's a novel idea and design, and there seem to be great efficiency benefits. Keep up the good work!

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