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RE: how to drain fresh water tank on a jamboree

On our Tioga 26Q, there is an inspection panel outside the bathroom, yours may be similar. First open all faucets with pump off. Take off the panel and get down on the floor with flashlight, grope around in the dark hole to find two small shut off valves, these are the "low drain valves" open the valves and water will slowly drain out hoses in the bottom of the rig, you should see water dribbling out, when it stops the fresh water tank and lines are empty. Close the valves all the way, must be completely closed!!!!! Now you can refill tank. When you run the pump,it takes a while for water to start flowing from faucets. If when you shut off faucets, pump continues to run, one or both valves are not completely shut off.
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Bordercollie
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11/14/09 07:45am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Newbie to RV

We bought a Tioga 26Q model that has a huge lighted cargo compartment with access on three sides. We carry a large dog crate/exercise pen for our two border collies, a free standing screen room, lots of chairs and chaises, plus my electric take-apart mobility scooter and other essentials. There is a rear RV-size queen bed room and other standard features,but no slides. It is 27 feet long, bumper to bumper, fits our driveway and all campsites. Not much harder to drive,maneuver and park than a 22-24 foot rig. No need to put stuff in the shower or overhead or on the floor. Don't buy too small or too old. The modern fuel injected Ford Triton V-10 is much better than carbureted V-8's pulling grades at high altitudes.
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Bordercollie
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11/09/09 01:01pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: questions from a Class C beginner

Think twice about buying a class C shorter than 27 feet bumper to bumper. With short rigs you usually don't get a dedicated rear RV queen bed and have to convert a dinette, sleep on a lumpy jacknife convertable sofa, or sleep in the overhead. You also get much less storage room for supplies and "stuff". A rear bedroom is much more comfortable and convenient and one can stay in the rear while the other is forward watching TV etc. If you are young, non-arthritic, and don't mind set-up and take-down hassles at bedtime and in mornings and stashing stuff in the shower stall and overhead etc, shorter rigs are tolerable. A 27 footer is not much different to drive or park than a 22-24 footer, I wouldn't want any longer and ours fits our driveway.
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Bordercollie
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11/07/09 09:56am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: carry electric wheelchair or scooter behind Class C

It must be that you or your spouse are not able to lift and assemble/ disassemble and stow separate portable scooter parts, (you didn't explain). If you don't have a serious problem with that, I don't know why you would need both a heavy power chair and a heavy scooter for motorhoming unless you just don't want to invest another $1000 in a Go Go or similar portable/take apart scooter. Maneuvering with a small trailer is almost as much bother as with a larger trailer or a towed vehicle. It takes me a couple of minutes to stow my scooter parts but I am able to carry and stow the heavier parts. There are some extremely light aluminum foldable scooters but I haven't tried them. In the near future, there may portable scooters that are even lighter using Lithium instead of lead/acid batteries although lithium batteries will be more expensive.
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Bordercollie
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11/07/09 09:38am |
Class C Motorhomes
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Leaking Drinking Water Faucet

I had our Tioga's original Shurflow filtered water faucet and filter assembly replaced with an Everpure unit after looking at the various types and brands on the net. The new faucet has a spring loaded on/off lever. The original faucet was the usual round chromed rotating knob that leaked at the base and would not shut off firmly.
The Everpure unit can use four different levels of filters, I got the one that improves taste and removes bacteria. I considered the filter type that filters all of the fresh water supplied to all of the faucets and the ones that filter water supplied to the kitchen sink. Decided on filtering only the drinking water as the cheapest method in terms of frequency of filter changes and filter cost. Decided against the Culligan version as it has a breakable plastic mounting base. Had the above and a new vent lid replaced in our driveway by a mobile RV service for a reasonable price.
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Bordercollie
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11/06/09 01:54pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: carry electric wheelchair or scooter behind Class C

I carry a much lighter Pride "Go Go" mobility scooter disassembled in our Tioga 26Q's rear cargo bay. If you or a helper are able to lift and assemble the separate pieces that may be a solution for you. I also carry mine disassembled in the back of our Toyota wagon and use it often for hobby activities, theme parks,dog walking, etc. Cost me a little over $1000, gets around hilly San Diego Zoo well. On flat ground at slow pace will go all day.
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Bordercollie
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11/05/09 05:09pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Best, quality built class “C” or small class “A” and why?

We bought a 2004 Fleetwood Tioga "26Q" model Class C new in late 2003 for $52K. It had some appliance installation and factory assembly defects that we had fixed under warranty. We installed a heavier duty fresh waterpump and a better quality outside radio/CD player. Main reasons for buying it were rear bedroom with RV-size queen bed and huge rear lighted cargo area with access on three sides. We didn't want a longer rig, didn't want slide(s), wanted it to fit into all campsites. Most RV manufacturers install the same brands of appliances, furnaces, generators, awnings, etc. For $10K more, we could have gotten a more solidly built Lazy Daze, with less initial warranty fixes. The Ford Triton V-10 gasoline engine and drive train have been trouble free and can be serviced anywhere. Front engine diesels are noisy and smelly and often more expensive to have serviced.The additional costs of diesel engines are usually not recouped in mileage by average motorhomers. Be open-minded and do your homework, then decide based on brand, length and floorplan to suit your forseeable needs and wants. Consider buying 1-2 years old with warranties on chassis and housebox still in effect.
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Bordercollie
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11/03/09 01:06pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Photos

I wish RV.Net had the same easy photo and text file attachment system as RCGroups E-Zone and RC Universe model airplane forums.
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Bordercollie
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10/25/09 06:44pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Replacing Under-Sink Water Filter

I finally decided on a Hydrolife HL-170 undercounter filter kit and a separate G2422 dedicated water faucet after spending most of the day looking at the various option in terms of quality, initial cost and filter costs. the Everpure EV9252-00 under counter drinking water filter system looked pretty good too.
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Bordercollie
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10/23/09 03:30pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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Replacing Under-Sink Water Filter

The original water filter faucet in our '04 Tioga won't shut off properly and leaks water from the base, time to replace. Has anybody installed a Culligan RV-EZ-1 water filter system? Is the faucet part made of metal or nylon/plastic? I have read that Culligan plastic faucet parts are very breakable.
Also will the RV-EZ-1 accept a RC-EZ-4 ( Level 4) filter without modifying the head unit?
Is there a better drinking water under sink filter system that will stand up to the rigors of RV use?
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Bordercollie
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10/23/09 10:42am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Bike rack

Our Swagman 3 bike rack worked ok with cruiser bikes with curved top frames but but they hang off level. Brackets are really intended for mountain bikes, etc. with horizontal top frame members. The sell bolt on frame members for girls bikes with step through frames so that they can be carried on these kinds of racks.
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Bordercollie
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10/22/09 10:06am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Screen Door drives me crazy - Am I the only one?

The glass window in the entry door was rattling within the plastic frame. I found that little plastic locator tabs in the frame had broken. I used yellow "monkey snot" automotive window gasket glue to bond glass to plastic frame parts and have not been bothered by it since. However, Class C's rattle like dogs bark.
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Bordercollie
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10/19/09 06:32pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Are there quality RVs that will last?

If you are so concerned about build quality, you might feel better by buying one of the quality leaders like Lazy Daze for $10K more than average rigs. Note that allmost all brands use the same brands of appliances, plumbing and accessory items. If a motorhome were made by Mercedes, you probably wouldn't want to pay the difference. To some extent you can just drive a modern car and it will keep running with oil and filter changes, cooling system and brake work until it is some ten+ years old. The chassis/drive train on a motorhome is similar to a car's. It's the RV's "housebox" full of complex stuff that's not in a car that, requires monitoring, maintenance and fixes in time to prevent major cost problems.
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Bordercollie
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10/17/09 10:50am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Unrepairable Water Leak

Contact Fleetwood and describe problem in detail and tell them what's been done and ask them for advice. If the Customer relations lady tells you to see your dealer, raise a stink and ask to talk to a technician or engineer. Fleetwood should be trying harder to please customers now. Mention that you are an RV.Net Open Roads user and would like to report helpfulness by Fleetwood. Leaking Class C's are not uncommon.
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Bordercollie
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10/14/09 10:10am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Bed rails for over-cab bed

I found a wooden X pattern collapsible child gate that I cut to fit the opening. I attached the left side with screws into the wall and attached the latching parts on the right, There was a an upholstered "lip" on the overhead that captured the lower part of the gate. Kids didn't mind being behind bars.
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Bordercollie
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10/04/09 10:44am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: 1978 Dodge lights

Re: Old Dodge Vans
Had some interesting DIY experiences with carbs, electrical connections through the firewall,fuxible links, ballast resistors, and intermittent ignition coils in addition to periodic point replacement, setting timing, wandering steering, etc. We've all got it better nowadays.
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Bordercollie
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10/02/09 10:45am |
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RE: 1978 Dodge lights

If the above don't find the problem, find an auto electrical specialist like we finally did with our 72 Dodge Maxi van conversion.
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Bordercollie
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10/01/09 02:31pm |
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RE: What is the "catch"?

Nobody that is honest, and in their right mind, will sell something for 1/6 what is is worth. I wouldn't consider buying a any vehicle unless I could see and drive it and perhaps have it evaluated by an independant RV expert and truck drivetrain expert befor committing in any way.
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Bordercollie
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09/30/09 02:32pm |
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RE: considering purchase of Tioga Ranger

I think that you can have a "hot rod" heating element and switch box installed and then you can use both propane ane electric for faster water heating or one or the other depending on whether you have 110vac hookup or not.
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Bordercollie
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09/29/09 02:49pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Newbie with questions on size & Bed or no Bed?

I routinely advise that you need a 27 foot long rig to get a rear bedroom and a large cargo area as in a Fleetwood Tioga or Jamboree "26Q" floor plan. A 27 footer will be welcome in 99.9% of all campsites including Federal and State campgrounds.The cargo area is immense. The rear bed has no access on the left side but is otherwise great. Overhead beds are for agile young people or kids, converting dinettes and sofas into lumpy sleeping pads is ok for very occasional camping. Occasional towing, pulling through gas stations, etc and launching a boat (or towing a car) with any class C is not my idea of relaxing fun, but may be worth it to some.
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Bordercollie
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09/27/09 11:06am |
Class C Motorhomes
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