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JoeChiOhki

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The Camper Wiki's got some campgrounds listed in it that are not camper friendly that do not allow them at all, as well as ones that do not allow offloading.

The Truck Camper Wiki

I'll be getting around to upgrading the campground archive in it soon so that its far easier to add to and search .


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I have never been denied access but some of the larger RV resorts will not let you take your camper off. They claim it is insurance reasons.

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I don't know if it is because it is an S&S camper or Dodge truck but it is forbidden to enter ANY RV resort.


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Funny you should be thinking of switching. I sometimes think I'd like a B+ for the convenience. I don't need a truck and find that loading and unloading the camper is a pain in the butt (not everyone feels that way, though, by a long shot).

However, I LOVE the space of the TC, and leave it on for the season, anyway Sight-seeing with the whole rig is no problem.


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One thing I would be concerned with is the weight of the OK 117. You don't say what model Dodge but my old OK 116 put my 2006 F-350 Dually, 1,500 pounds over its gross. I didn't realize how bad it handled until I traded it for my current OK 106. With the Stablelift, options, your personal gear and wet the OK 117 is probably going to weigh over 6 grand.

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cleary wrote:

One thing I would be concerned with is the weight of the OK 117. You don't say what model Dodge but my old OK 116 put my 2006 F-350 Dually, 1,500 pounds over its gross. I didn't realize how bad it handled until I traded it for my current OK 106. With the Stablelift, options, your personal gear and wet the OK 117 is probably going to weigh over 6 grand.

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Chuck: The camper is 3800, stablelift about 500 and the truck can handle 5100. I'm not much of a dry camper, so probably won't be traveling wet. I generally empty all tanks before leaving a camp ground. Does it sound like I'd be safe. The previous owner of the 117 has a chevy 3500 dually and claims no problems at all.

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I can see the convience of a B+ if it is raining or you are in a situation where you don't want to get out of the camper to leave a campsite. These are great advantages. If your B+ is to your liking and you are comfortable with it then I would say stay with it.

My reason for getting a truck camper are twofold. I need a truck for other chores around the house, haul brush, lumber, etc., and the truck camper is a very convient way to travel. Wife and I love it. But also our truck is a 4-wheel drive and occasionally we want to go on roads without the camper, thus it is easy to drop at a campsite and head out to do a little 4'wheeling. We have done this in Colorado and in Big Bend NP. I plan on doing it on my trip to Utah shortly. Loading and unloading is not a problem, it takes about 10-15 minutes to do so. I carry four slotted plywood pieces under the camper to provide floor support when the camper is off the truck.

I have never been denied entrance to an RV park, but we have hardly ever stayed at a fancy RV park per se. We usually boondock or stay at national forest, national park, or state park sites.

Your choice is just a matter of personal preference and I would not go to the expense of switching if there was not a strong desire to have the ability to unload the camper for either truck use or 4'wheeling.

Just my opinion.

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Some Class B RV's are excellent 4 wheel drive vehicles.

In fact, IMHO I think that Sportsmobiles are better off road than 4WD trucks (with or without truck campers) with their Atlas II All Gear Driven Transfer Cases, Dynatrac Pro-Roc 60 Axles, 49’ 2” curb to curb Turning Circles, 44º/32º Approach/Departure Angles, 16.5” Ground Clearance (Van Center), 10,000 lbs. Towing Capacity, and rigid steel bodies.

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I can see the convience of a B+ if it is raining or you are in a situation where you don't want to get out of the camper to leave a campsite. These are great advantages. If your B+ is to your liking and you are comfortable with it then I would say stay with it.

My reason for getting a truck camper are twofold. I need a truck for other chores around the house, haul brush, lumber, etc., and the truck camper is a very convient way to travel. Wife and I love it. But also our truck is a 4-wheel drive and occasionally we want to go on roads without the camper, thus it is easy to drop at a campsite and head out to do a little 4'wheeling. We have done this in Colorado and in Big Bend NP. I plan on doing it on my trip to Utah shortly. Loading and unloading is not a problem, it takes about 10-15 minutes to do so. I carry four slotted plywood pieces under the camper to provide floor support when the camper is off the truck.

I have never been denied entrance to an RV park, but we have hardly ever stayed at a fancy RV park per se. We usually boondock or stay at national forest, national park, or state park sites.

Your choice is just a matter of personal preference and I would not go to the expense of switching if there was not a strong desire to have the ability to unload the camper for either truck use or 4'wheeling.

Just my opinion.

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kassiejax wrote:

cleary wrote:

One thing I would be concerned with is the weight of the OK 117. You don't say what model Dodge but my old OK 116 put my 2006 F-350 Dually, 1,500 pounds over its gross. I didn't realize how bad it handled until I traded it for my current OK 106. With the Stablelift, options, your personal gear and wet the OK 117 is probably going to weigh over 6 grand.

Chuck


Chuck: The camper is 3800, stablelift about 500 and the truck can handle 5100. I'm not much of a dry camper, so probably won't be traveling wet. I generally empty all tanks before leaving a camp ground. Does it sound like I'd be safe. The previous owner of the 117 has a chevy 3500 dually and claims no problems at all.


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I had a 116ULT (I know not the same model but a double slide like the the 117 and an Okanagan) and at the time I bought it I had a 2002 Chevy dually ext cab 4X4 Dmax/allison. When I loaded it on the truck I ran it over the scales and I was all ready over the GVWR of 11400# for the Chey dually. The Chevy dually weighs in about 7500# now even if you add the 3800# (which I believe you will find it is low) to it that brings the truck up to 11,300# and that is without anything in the camper and no people or gear in the truck. If you are only talking 2 people you are adding 300# or so to the truck. Most people add about 1000# to the camper and this does not allways include water. I went out the next day and ordered my F550 to carry this camper. So even though someone else has it on a truck and they claim it was no problem be leary. When I sold my 116ULT I had it on consignment and the RV dealer had right on it that they would not sell this camper to anyone with less than a dually. They had it sold one time and the fellow left the lot with it and came back the next day begging to get out of the deal as it was just to heavy for his truck. He had a dually but I don't know what brand or year. I would also be very leary of the camper only weighing 3800#. That is without any of the added options. My AF1140 dry weight with one slide is over 4000# dry per the manufacturer and this is without any of the option that I put on it. Once I pick it up I'll be able to tell more. The OK campers are good but they are heavy. If you put this camper on a Ford or Dodge you have to remember that most of these trucks are heavier than the Chevy right off the bat. The Ford will most likely be in the 8300 to 8500# range empty with full fuel and nobody in the cab. My F550 is abpout 9600# with nobody in the truck.

That 5100# that you are talking about on the truck is a basic truck with no options, regular cab, cheapest interior. Are you going to be getting a quad cab, 4X4, are you going to have any options on it? If so you can start taking those weights away from that 5100#. Most likely if you took an a mildly optioned truck to the scales and with who ever is going to travel with you in the truck and the stuff you are going to haul in the truck and you are going to be surprised that you will be lucky to have 4,000 to 4500# left before reaching your GVWR.

Now I'm not one to preach that you can not exceed the GVWR that is something that only you can answer and each to their own.

If I really wanted this camper and wanted a Dodge than I would be looking at a 4500 or 5500 Dodge and put a flatbed on it and use it. Gives you a much bigger load capacity and some breathing room. But again that is just me.

This is just IMO and yours may differ


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