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Al/Reeni

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Posted: 10/26/09 09:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've never had a 5W, but have no regrets with our current setup, as pictured in our profile. We needed the open bed to haul the canoe, so never considered a 5W when shopping. With this truck, a good WD hitch and Reese Dual Cam sway control it tows like dream.





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Murgatroid wrote:

Very interesting, Riddler! It looks like you have quite the truck collection! Which one do you use to tow the Adrenaline? What tow system are you using?

-steve



I love my Dodge, Its really all i drive unless im working. I tow the adrenaline with my cummins and i am just using a husky weight distribution hitch with a reese dual cam sway controller. Tows wonderfully. The F250 just sits for the most part, I use the F350 for business as i have to have a 1 ton for legal purposes and what i pull. We got the F350 before the 6.7 cummins came out.


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swilson wrote:

Do you think you'll end up over your trucks GVWR with the RZR in the back while bumper pulling such a large unit?

My bumper pull is only 28' and I'm at my truck's GVWR with no load in the bed.


You bring up a good point. I will likely be at the limit or a little over on GVWR. It should come in less than my camper (about 2500lbs give or take), which the truck has no problem hauling. I have PacBrake air bags which help a lot. I don't really need to use the bags with my 5th wheel, which is putting about 1800-2000lbs on the hitch. I inflate the bags to about 25psi with the camper.

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Al/Reeni wrote:

I've never had a 5W, but have no regrets with our current setup, as pictured in our profile. We needed the open bed to haul the canoe, so never considered a 5W when shopping. With this truck, a good WD hitch and Reese Dual Cam sway control it tows like dream.


Thanks! I bet the Rage'N is a LOT different camping style compared to the chuck wagon! Cool set of pictures in your profile!

Riddler6.7 wrote:


I love my Dodge, Its really all i drive unless im working. I tow the adrenaline with my cummins and i am just using a husky weight distribution hitch with a reese dual cam sway controller. Tows wonderfully. The F250 just sits for the most part,


I love my Dodge Cummins as well. It sounds like my truck should easily be able to handle a TT style trailer.

-steve

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I had a 32' 5th wheel and with my truck and trailer attached to the 5th wheel I was over the length limit in california so I did down-size to a 28' eclipse bumper pull no slide out either I got the eclipse in jan.09 and I am already looking at another 5th wheel all ready I hate not having the slide out it makes a huge difference and the storage wish I would have got a TH with a slide and a garage

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jhufft wrote:

I had a 32' 5th wheel and with my truck and trailer attached to the 5th wheel I was over the length limit in california so I did down-size to a 28' eclipse bumper pull no slide out either I got the eclipse in jan.09 and I am already looking at another 5th wheel all ready I hate not having the slide out it makes a huge difference and the storage wish I would have got a TH with a slide and a garage

jason


That is my worry. I do like having a slide-out in the living and bedrooms. On the other hand, a Toy hauler has easy to set up beds for the kids and any friends they bring along. Our Sundance floorplan is a lot better at waking hours than sleeping hours! Most of the time, we hang outside. It's only when the weather is bad that we'll be cooped up.

There are so many pluses to the toy hauler for us, with the main negative being smaller interior space. I may end up either renting one a few times, or buying one and keeping both for a while and see how it goes. I can pick one to sell later.

Thanks for all the responses so far!

-steve

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Riddler6.7 wrote:

I currently have a 5th wheel and my TT Toy hauler. Honestly i was very hesitant about not getting another 5er as far as the Toy hauler is concerned. My fears were realized AT FIRST. But after i got a good sway controller, i can honestly tell you that i would rather pull the TT Toy hauler then my 5er. There is definitely give and take with each unit, but as far as just pulling down the road, after getting the hitch setup just right, i believe the Bumper pull Toy hauler pulls better then MY 5er. I never thought i would say that but thats how i feel.

I will probably end up getting a Cyclone 3010 a few years down the road, thats really what i wanted. But i stumbled upon my Adrenaline at the local Cyclone dealer and i couldnt pass up the deal. It is a good way for me to test out how much i would use the TH so i would know if i could justify the expense of a new Cyclone. Like stated, i will probably get a Cyclone later down the road, but for now i am completely satisfied with my Adrenaline. Its smaller and not quite as fancy as the cyclone or most any 5er TH with a separate garage, but i have lots of room and can fit my rzr in the TH plus another 1 seater atv. That i would not be able to do with ANY 5er TH with a separate garage that i have seen.


There's not many people who would agree with you that a TT can pull as good or better than a 5er. However, I also don't believe that most people do enough research to find out how to properly set a the hitch of a TT. Over the past year, I pulled my brothers 36' Raptor three times. While I couldn't have said this after initially purchasing my 3110TT Raptor (with the dealer setup of the hitch), I can definitely say I'd rather pull my TT now. Additionally, I recently followed him to Moab. His trailer moved around a bunch more than mine did.

There is more in the setup of the hitch than most people appreciate. However, as others have spoke...the comfort of a 5er is pretty much second to none also.

BTW, I also put my RZR in the bed of my truck with 3 ATVs in the trailer. No problems.


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Al/Reeni

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Murgatroid wrote:

Al/Reeni wrote:

I've never had a 5W, but have no regrets with our current setup, as pictured in our profile. We needed the open bed to haul the canoe, so never considered a 5W when shopping. With this truck, a good WD hitch and Reese Dual Cam sway control it tows like dream.


Thanks! I bet the Rage'N is a LOT different camping style compared to the chuck wagon! Cool set of pictures in your profile!


While we love the added ammenities of the TH, our camping style is pretty much the same - we still like to be OUTDOORS. Coming from tent camping and PopUps, one reason we wanted a toy hauler was that we could still open it up. In addition to the large side windows, we can turn the whole back of the trailer into a giant picture window. . .



. . . or even another room.



Our's has no slide outs and we've never regretted it. We're used to the room we have, can make more if needed, and I see too many come into our shop with problems. I realize there are thousands out there that never have an issue, but I see the ones that do. Just one more moving part to cause trouble and one more area for possible water intrusion. I see that a lot.

* This post was edited 10/28/09 07:21pm by Al/Reeni *

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I like that enclosed room you got there. I recently made cables to hold my rear door level for a patio like that but don't have the add a room yet. Was thinking of using a pop up shelter for shade back there...


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campNride wrote:

I like that enclosed room you got there. I recently made cables to hold my rear door level for a patio like that but don't have the add a room yet. Was thinking of using a pop up shelter for shade back there...


We got ours from Carefree of Colorado.

You can use with just the awning . . .




. . . or the entire screen room.




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