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Posted: 03/28/12 06:32am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

lincster wrote:

Newer F450's, 2011 and up are no better than a F350. Wide track front end is about all you get.
I know Ford lumps the 450 in with the rest of their light trucks but it seems to have a significantly higher GCWR. There must be something different.

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Per the 2011 brochure, you get larger brakes & shorter gearing.

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M-1028 wrote:

Drive a normal crew cab 4x4 dually for 5 years then own a 450. I guess we use our trucks different around here or you live in a parking lot. Try pulling a 40' trailer down a small country road and maneuver into a driveway. I'm almost positive mine is under 2500 going 75.


You won't be under 2500 rpm at 75mph. I drove my truck with 4.30 gears for 7 years. I know what rpm I was at.


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joebedford wrote:

lincster wrote:

Newer F450's, 2011 and up are no better than a F350. Wide track front end is about all you get.
I know Ford lumps the 450 in with the rest of their light trucks but it seems to have a significantly higher GCWR. There must be something different.

I really like my Chev.


3000lbs is not significantly higher.
My current F350 has a GCWR of 30,000lbs. 450 has a GCWR of 33,000lbs, due to gearing. Both have the same GVWR.

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nwcutie wrote:

Back to OP's question - there is no comparison between a SRW and DRW for towing. Trust me!

That IS a true statement, that not all of us have the means to follow through on...as our TV is the daily driver and NOT willing to have it be a DRW for whatever reason.





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sptrucksbyed wrote:

I tow a 43' Raptor 4014 with my 2005 ford 350 4DR SRW and have no problems doing it !!!!!


Me too!!



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I pulled my old triple axle TH with an F350 SRW for several years and I was very comfortable with the load. With the jeep in the back it was 18k loaded and I hauled it all over Baja...

Pull the current rig (47 feet/22k loaded) with my 3500 and have no issues. I think all of the current 3500 trucks are very capable.


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Oh my..... based on dedmiston's post about tires and him being irritated, I will keep my comments about the above pix to myself.

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M-1028 wrote:

I own a 2012 f450, a lot of guys say they are not much better than a 350. But if you pull big trailers as much as I do, it's worth it. The old 450's had the 110 rear axle and bigger brakes, but that 110 is a noisy sob!!



Must have been something wrong with that rear end. My 110 w/4.30s doesn't make a sound.


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Harvey Roof wrote:

Is anyone using a Ford F350 Diesel for pulling a triple axle? If so, how does the 350 handle the load for stopping. I'm not worried about pulling but interested in feedback regarding stability and stopping. Thanks

Doesn't matter what brand - the older the truck the less capable they are (stock). My 2004 Ram (not stock) was not up to the task of hauling my Voltage. On the flat, the brakes were very good. In the hills west of Globe AZ I had a brake controller failure and came THIS CLOSE to taking a runaway ramp. That was with the old trailer that was 3500lbs lighter than my Voltage. My Chev is much more capable than the Dodge, not because of the brand but because it's a 2011 not a 2004 model.

What year is your Ford and does it have all heavy duty towing options?

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