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shum02

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Posted: 03/12/12 08:05am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

NewsW wrote:

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Unless he has extended the OEM warranty the original is up. 100k miles/5 years which ever comes first.



Emissions warranty is longer.


Not sure if that qualifies and I am not sure on the US emissions warranty.


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shum02 wrote:

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shum02 wrote:



Unless he has extended the OEM warranty the original is up. 100k miles/5 years which ever comes first.



Emissions warranty is longer.


Not sure if that qualifies and I am not sure on the US emissions warranty.



EGR is 100% certain to be an emission part, and posted in the above description of the emission warranty.

Depending on whether it is a "federal" or "california" certified truck, different times / mileage apply.

Also depend on certification.


I find it hard to believe he would be (informally) denied coverage just for not having changed the oil on time (and within mileage).


Something in this case doesn't smell right --- or material facts are missing.


Quite frankly, I do not believe the diagnostics at this point, let alone the repair, is a shade tree mechanic job.


If OP insist on "going for it" himself, I am done --- as I believe he is more likely to cause harm / make mistakes than he is to actually successfully fix something this complex.


There are just certain jobs that require not just skill, but the expertise learned from doing the job often, recently, and frequently.

Diagnostics and proper R&R of EGR subsystem is one of them.

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I find it hard to believe he would be (informally) denied coverage just for not having changed the oil on time (and within mileage).




Ford can be tough on the legaleeze when it suits them.


I'd do the EGR but that's me. Can't comment on the OP's mechanical ability. Mine is one of a million other trucks not having any issues and I have over 120k miles/200k kms on mine.

Hope it all works out well for him, shop work on any of these diesel trucks is darn expensive.

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shum02 wrote:

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I find it hard to believe he would be (informally) denied coverage just for not having changed the oil on time (and within mileage).




Ford can be tough on the legaleeze when it suits them.


I'd do the EGR but that's me. Can't comment on the OP's mechanical ability. Mine is one of a million other trucks not having any issues and I have over 120k miles/200k kms on mine.

Hope it all works out well for him, shop work on any of these diesel trucks is darn expensive.




The evidence is inconclusive that it is the EGR alone.

Normally, diagnostics will require testing oil cooler.

Getting to it, etc. will also mean a complete coolant flush / change.

For that much risk, I'd leave it to someone that wrench 6.0 for a living every day.

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Howdy back from the world's worst procrastinator. Maybe that should be the best procrastinator. I finally completed the simple test for bad EGR Cooler or Head Gaskets posted by Bullet Proof Diesel that Turtle n Peeps linked way back at the beginning. Skip to last paragraph for the fast answer.


Thanks again to all who tried to help. Faster action on my part would have gotten me the answer in a few days instead of months. Couldn't find a rubber cork for a long time. Being retired and having a golf cart in the garage, I put off getting the bad news for a looong time as I did other things, worked on ways to finance the job, use substitutes for the rubber cork and just plain stalled for a long time. Found the cork last week in a specialty items bin at Lowe's, drilled the hole for the tube, and blew the test procedures. First it was sucking water out of the bottle. Think for a day or two. Added plenty of water. Started blowing water out instead of air like the video stated. Not a clue!! Opps. Maybe I should have the tube above water level.

Ran test with turbo connected, then with it disconnected, then with it reconnected. End result. Good news, apparently. Results of the test indicated that the HGs are okay and it is just the EGR Cooler.

Thanks again to all, especially Turtle for the link that gave me the final answer. I call for a tow and repairs tomorrow. You didn't think I was ready to quit stalling, did you??

* This post was edited 05/21/12 03:39pm by RVDaysEnded *

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I'm going to add some injector cleaner to the gas today even though I am pretty sure that is not the problem.


By using the letters "PSD" I am assuming you have a Power Stroke Diesel. If I am correct, then your problem may be the fuel you are using. You stated you are going to add injector cleaner to the gas. You really should be putting diesel fuel in that truck!

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If keeping the truck long term you might consider adding a coolant filter.

Seems your troubles are only beginning. Having a coolant filter may head off many of those problems.


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I was going to be putting the truck on the market about the same time the trouble started, so, I probably won't be adding anything to the costs. I was deciding whether to take one last trip or just sell truck and 5th wheel. The 5th wheel got hit in storage a couple of weeks ago. I needed more confusion. At least the guy notified the office These problems gave me plenty of time to decide. They are gone as soon as I can sell them after repairs.

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RVDaysEnded wrote:

Howdy back from the world's worst procrastinator. Maybe that should be the best procrastinator. I finally completed the simple test for bad EGR Cooler or Head Gaskets posted by Bullet Proof Diesel that Turtle n Peeps linked way back at the beginning. Skip to last paragraph for the fast answer.


Thanks again to all who tried to help. Faster action on my part would have gotten me the answer in a few days instead of months. Couldn't find a rubber cork for a long time. Being retired and having a golf cart in the garage, I put off getting the bad news for a looong time as I did other things, worked on ways to finance the job, use substitutes for the rubber cork and just plain stalled for a long time. Found the cork last week in a specialty items bin at Lowe's, drilled the hole for the tube, and blew the test procedures. First it was sucking water out of the bottle. Think for a day or two. Added plenty of water. Started blowing water out instead of air like the video stated. Not a clue!! Opps. Maybe I should have the tube above water level.

Ran test with turbo connected, then with it disconnected, then with it reconnected. End result. Good news, apparently. Results of the test indicated that the HGs are okay and it is just the EGR Cooler.

Thanks again to all, especially Turtle for the link that gave me the final answer. I call for a tow and repairs tomorrow. You didn't think I was ready to quit stalling, did you??


Glad it wasn't the head gaskets.

Are you going to do a delete or are you going to replace the coolers?

Hope you get your truck back soon. If you decide to do upgrades let me know and I'll see if I can steer you in the right direction.


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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

RVDaysEnded wrote:

Howdy back from the world's worst procrastinator. Maybe that should be the best procrastinator. I finally completed the simple test for bad EGR Cooler or Head Gaskets posted by Bullet Proof Diesel that Turtle n Peeps linked way back at the beginning. Skip to last paragraph for the fast answer.


Thanks again to all who tried to help. Faster action on my part would have gotten me the answer in a few days instead of months. Couldn't find a rubber cork for a long time. Being retired and having a golf cart in the garage, I put off getting the bad news for a looong time as I did other things, worked on ways to finance the job, use substitutes for the rubber cork and just plain stalled for a long time. Found the cork last week in a specialty items bin at Lowe's, drilled the hole for the tube, and blew the test procedures. First it was sucking water out of the bottle. Think for a day or two. Added plenty of water. Started blowing water out instead of air like the video stated. Not a clue!! Opps. Maybe I should have the tube above water level.

Ran test with turbo connected, then with it disconnected, then with it reconnected. End result. Good news, apparently. Results of the test indicated that the HGs are okay and it is just the EGR Cooler.

Thanks again to all, especially Turtle for the link that gave me the final answer. I call for a tow and repairs tomorrow. You didn't think I was ready to quit stalling, did you??


Glad it wasn't the head gaskets.

Are you going to do a delete or are you going to replace the coolers?

Hope you get your truck back soon. If you decide to do upgrades let me know and I'll see if I can steer you in the right direction.


Likewise, I could also assist in some of these "upgrades".


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