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Turtle n Peeps

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Posted: 05/22/12 09:15pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

RollingRockTX wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

RVDaysEnded wrote:

Howdy back from the world's worst procrastinator. Maybe that should be the best procrastinator. I finally completed the simple test for bad EGR Cooler or Head Gaskets posted by Bullet Proof Diesel that Turtle n Peeps linked way back at the beginning. Skip to last paragraph for the fast answer.


Thanks again to all who tried to help. Faster action on my part would have gotten me the answer in a few days instead of months. Couldn't find a rubber cork for a long time. Being retired and having a golf cart in the garage, I put off getting the bad news for a looong time as I did other things, worked on ways to finance the job, use substitutes for the rubber cork and just plain stalled for a long time. Found the cork last week in a specialty items bin at Lowe's, drilled the hole for the tube, and blew the test procedures. First it was sucking water out of the bottle. Think for a day or two. Added plenty of water. Started blowing water out instead of air like the video stated. Not a clue!! Opps. Maybe I should have the tube above water level.

Ran test with turbo connected, then with it disconnected, then with it reconnected. End result. Good news, apparently. Results of the test indicated that the HGs are okay and it is just the EGR Cooler.

Thanks again to all, especially Turtle for the link that gave me the final answer. I call for a tow and repairs tomorrow. You didn't think I was ready to quit stalling, did you??


Glad it wasn't the head gaskets.

Are you going to do a delete or are you going to replace the coolers?

Hope you get your truck back soon. If you decide to do upgrades let me know and I'll see if I can steer you in the right direction.


Likewise, I could also assist in some of these "upgrades".


I was actually going to send him to you RR!!! LOL, great minds think alike. How is that beautiful truck of yours doing?


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Posted: 05/22/12 09:32pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

RollingRockTX wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

RVDaysEnded wrote:

Howdy back from the world's worst procrastinator. Maybe that should be the best procrastinator. I finally completed the simple test for bad EGR Cooler or Head Gaskets posted by Bullet Proof Diesel that Turtle n Peeps linked way back at the beginning. Skip to last paragraph for the fast answer.


Thanks again to all who tried to help. Faster action on my part would have gotten me the answer in a few days instead of months. Couldn't find a rubber cork for a long time. Being retired and having a golf cart in the garage, I put off getting the bad news for a looong time as I did other things, worked on ways to finance the job, use substitutes for the rubber cork and just plain stalled for a long time. Found the cork last week in a specialty items bin at Lowe's, drilled the hole for the tube, and blew the test procedures. First it was sucking water out of the bottle. Think for a day or two. Added plenty of water. Started blowing water out instead of air like the video stated. Not a clue!! Opps. Maybe I should have the tube above water level.

Ran test with turbo connected, then with it disconnected, then with it reconnected. End result. Good news, apparently. Results of the test indicated that the HGs are okay and it is just the EGR Cooler.

Thanks again to all, especially Turtle for the link that gave me the final answer. I call for a tow and repairs tomorrow. You didn't think I was ready to quit stalling, did you??


Glad it wasn't the head gaskets.

Are you going to do a delete or are you going to replace the coolers?

Hope you get your truck back soon. If you decide to do upgrades let me know and I'll see if I can steer you in the right direction.


Likewise, I could also assist in some of these "upgrades".


I was actually going to send him to you RR!!! LOL, great minds think alike. How is that beautiful truck of yours doing?


The KR is shinny!

To the OP

This is ERG I used for one of my mods
EGR Delete Kit

Shop around for the ARP's, you can get them for a good deal if you do a search for them. I recommend rebuilding the oil cooler with a new upgrade kit from Ford...and also doing the head gasket, using the Ford stock one as a replacement. The Black Onyx ones are proving to be not very good.


If you would like more detail, send me a PM.


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Posted: 05/23/12 06:52am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

shum02 wrote:

I think the OP is dumping the whole enchilada.


Now it has a scared Oasis report, so I do feel bad for the next guy to picks up this truck...that is unless this dealer decides they have to do a little work to this truck.

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Think on the Ford IDS, there is a reading for "Maxtorque" which is the maximum amount of torque ever recorded by the transmission.

That is the first data point I check before I check OASIS.

If that number is higher than factory spec, it has been tuned.

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NewsW wrote:

Think on the Ford IDS, there is a reading for "Maxtorque" which is the maximum amount of torque ever recorded by the transmission.

That is the first data point I check before I check OASIS.

If that number is higher than factory spec, it has been tuned.


does that data clear if you remove the battery s and turn the lights on for 2 min? That clears the PCM/TCM tables.

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I think the OP is dumping the whole enchilada.


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Howdy back. The problem will be fixed. No upgrades. The 5th hadn't been moved in four years when someone ran into it in the RV storage facility 2-3 weeks ago. It is repaired now. When the truck is repaired, I am going to try to sell it and the 5th before anything else goes wrong. Murphy's Law sure seems to be a lot stronger in AZ than it was in Ohio.

I kept thinking I might do one last circle of the country. Never made it and the rig is worth a lot less than when I started stalling. Way past time to cut my losses. Thanks again to all for the ideas, especially the link to the bubble test.

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RollingRockTX wrote:

NewsW wrote:

Think on the Ford IDS, there is a reading for "Maxtorque" which is the maximum amount of torque ever recorded by the transmission.

That is the first data point I check before I check OASIS.

If that number is higher than factory spec, it has been tuned.


does that data clear if you remove the battery s and turn the lights on for 2 min? That clears the PCM/TCM tables.



Nope.

Lots of data cannot be erased, no matter what you do.

Physical destruction of the boxes, yes...


Data is buried in many parts of the boxes, encrypted, and there is no way for a casual user to get access to what the boxes store.

Read the 2008 Ford Owners manual and see the note re data collection etc.

Any half competent software can store lots of things that can only be recovered with varying levels of forensic software analysis.

While forensic software for auto ECMs are not widely available, they are for many other more common platforms:

https://www.blackbagtech.com/forensics/blacklight/blacklight.html

* This post was edited 05/23/12 09:21am by NewsW *

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I was actually going to send him to you RR!!! LOL, great minds think alike. How is that beautiful truck of yours doing?


ROTFLMAO Turtle. I think we all know who you would NOT suggest. Maybe IB will chime in on the black boxes. I did know a few guys who cleared their boxes before getting warranty work. Breaking into a code data base isn't rocket science.


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The 6.0 has a closed pressurised cooling system. Contrary to what some may think about coolant loss on a closed system it should be sealed up tighter than Fort Knox. His is not. That 1/2 a gallon of coolant went somewhere. If not on the ground; where? He already stated there was no invasive work done on the cooling system of the truck to air lock it and then it burped.

The simple pressure test I posted earlier would tell the whole story. Even Ford says to do it this way. For less than $50 bucks of hose, a guage and about an hours time and everybody can stop playing the guessing game.

For the OP: Look up TSB-9-8-3 and read what Ford says about coolant loss in the 6.0. It's an easy test. Just do it and you will know.
We agree on something! I had coolant loss, my wrench turner did a pressure test, found a crack in the coolant bottle near the bottom. Replacing the coolant bottle and installing a new pressure cap, viola! No more coolant loss! No expense to replace an EGR cooler, no head gasket repair, no horror stories about the POS engine that is supposedly in my truck. A simple $150 repair, parts and labor. I flushed the cooling system, added a coolant filter and replaced the coolant at the same time, another $150 parts and labor job.

I love my truck, and the one time it left me stranded had nothing to do with the engine.


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