mowermech wrote: "Yes those words do have appeal, to men who pee standing up."
Every time I see a statement like that, I automatically think "Someday that youngster will get old enough(if he is lucky) that when he tries to pee standing up, it will trickle down his leg or wet the front of his pants. When that happens, I hope he remembers that by his own definition he is no longer a REAL MAN, because he has to sit down to pee!"
What arrogant stupidity!
You sit down? LOL
I know REAL MEN who do!
Then again, perhaps you will be lucky enough to live long enough that you can do it standing up...
Into an adult diaper!
I bet you think the medical problems that mandate sitting down are real funny, too...
Truly sad the way some people think...
or don't, as the case may be!
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TomG2 wrote: After forty years in the highway construction business, the thing I learned is that 4wd lets drivers get stuck even further from the road than 2wd. I was in and out of ditches, on and off the road and enjoyed the benefits of 2wd. Lower, cheaper, better ride, and less maintenance. My various Jeeps were for playing in the mud.
Pay attention to the above quote. Think it through. It is consistent with what plenty of others who use pickups for business have concluded.
If you want to spend more at the outset, buy 4WD. If you want a higher maintenance cost per mile, buy 4WD. If you want more frequent and expensive repairs, buy 4WD. If you want higher fuel consumption bills, buy 4WD. If you want more frequent tire replacement, buy 4WD. If you want deadened steering feel, greater turning radius and slower response, buy 4WD. If you want lesser brake performance, buy 4WD. If you want higher COG and worsened handling, buy 4WD. If you want lowered payload, buy 4WD. If you want ingress & egress too high for older adults and children, buy 4WD. If you want shortened vehicle life, by comparison, buy 4WD.
It depends on how you will use it or where you live. We 4x4 as we have dry camping on the ocean and you need it to pull the TT over the dunes. Also our winters here can be a real pain with the amount of snow we get. So we use our vehicle year round both for towing the TT and daily use. We have drivine from Maine to Florida with the TT in tow without any issues and actually needed 4x4 to get in and out of a spot in NH. Our next tow vehicle will be a 4x4 as well. Th eonly decison will be gas or diesel.
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2001 2500LT Suburban 8.1L 4x4 Autoride K/N, AIR HORNS
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Dixie Flyer wrote: So far every thing is working out. The truck is higher than my 2005 F250 and makes it difficult for me putting things in the bed. At 71 years old I am not going to grow any taller so a step ladder has become part of the gear I take along.
I noticed I'm not growing any taller either, Richard, and growing wider doesn't help a bit when reaching into the truck bed. I got a little plastic 2-step stool about 20 years ago and have left it in the back of each truck I've owned since then. I mostly use it when cleaning the windshield.
Last fall I got it out and cleaned the windshield at a Flying J in South Dakota on a trip back east. We got about 50 miles down the road and I remembered that I hadn't put it back into the truck. Darn! But I wasn't going to drive an extra 100 miles to get a $20 20-year-old step stool.
We stopped at the same Flying J on the way back a few days later. I looked around for it a bit, then stuck my head inside a little storage area on the building. WHOOPIE! Found my step-stool! It should be good for another 20 years.
Glad you found your step stool. I too have been using a step stool. Several years ago I found a wooden step ladder that I have been using and now keep it in the back of the truck. Sometimes I wish I was six feet tall, but then I don't bump my head on the bed room slide out when it is extended.
2012 Ford King Ranch F-350 Crew Cab Diesel
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Dixie Flyer wrote: So far every thing is working out. The truck is higher than my 2005 F250 and makes it difficult for me putting things in the bed. At 71 years old I am not going to grow any taller so a step ladder has become part of the gear I take along.
I noticed I'm not growing any taller either, Richard, and growing wider doesn't help a bit when reaching into the truck bed. I got a little plastic 2-step stool about 20 years ago and have left it in the back of each truck I've owned since then. I mostly use it when cleaning the windshield.
Last fall I got it out and cleaned the windshield at a Flying J in South Dakota on a trip back east. We got about 50 miles down the road and I remembered that I hadn't put it back into the truck. Darn! But I wasn't going to drive an extra 100 miles to get a $20 20-year-old step stool.
We stopped at the same Flying J on the way back a few days later. I looked around for it a bit, then stuck my head inside a little storage area on the building. WHOOPIE! Found my step-stool! It should be good for another 20 years.
'68Monaco440HP wrote: If you want a higher maintenance cost per mile, buy 4WD. If you want more frequent and expensive repairs, buy 4WD. If you want higher fuel consumption bills, buy 4WD. If you want more frequent tire replacement, buy 4WD. If you want deadened steering feel, greater turning radius and slower response, buy 4WD. If you want lesser brake performance, buy 4WD. If you want higher COG and worsened handling, buy 4WD. If you want lowered payload, buy 4WD. If you want ingress & egress too high for older adults and children, buy 4WD. If you want shortened vehicle life, by comparison, buy 4WD.
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I've driven a 4 wheel drive nearly everyday for the last 20 years and hundreds of thousands of miles. Other than routine fluid changes, I've had zero (4 wheel drive related) maintenance or repairs. Fuel mileage difference is negligible. If my turning radius is too wide, I can drive over the curb with ease. In fact, I can do many things with ease, that a 2 wheel drive can't. My current 4 wheel drive has well over 200,000 miles and still drags my trailer all over the mountains. Granted it's a little taller.
I live in NW Ohio....4x4 in my truck is definitely preferable. Not to mention there have been times I've used it towing the camper, and unlike the people who clamor that "if you need 4x4 it's because you are somewhere you shouldn't be" I was not in an area I shouldn't have been in.
2000 Ford F350 XLT 7.3L PowerStroke Diesel CC 4x4 OffRoad SRW Long Bed
2008 Jayco Eagle 314BHDS (Momma Eagle)
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Prodigy Brake Controller
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