These aren't in process photos, but hopefully it will convey my idea.
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I had the reverse problem, how to get mine off a trailer. I jacked it up far enough to clear the trailer and slid 4*4*10 under the camper and supported them with blocks. drove the trailer right out and it was very steady with 3 4*4s and blocked. then once your made clearence the jacks should work to lower it down on the trailer.
SoCalDesertRider wrote: Wouldn't it be simpler to just widen out the jack mounts to clear the trailer, instead of doing all this other fooling around?
haha, yeah I hope so!! I have to measure the width of the jacks and figure out how much more I need. But good to know about these other ideas if I end up needing like 20" a side. lol.
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JoeChiOhki wrote: If you've looked closely you'll note that almost all of the camper haulers on trailers are goosenecks.
The reason for this is stability, trying to haul a camper on a bumper pull may not be terribly stable, given the higher center of gravity of the camper after being loaded onto a platform to support it (You'll have to build a cradle to hold the camper in place on the trailer).
As to getting it on, get your self a dozen 2x12s and build a tightly framed floor assembly that's wider than the trailer is, then build legs for it using multiple 4x4 posts that are higher than the trailer fenders are.
Back camper to spot, get 5 or so people to move floor assembly into place under camper, lower camper onto platform and raise it's jacks to clear the trailer, then back trailer under lower jacks again (If your trailer is narrow enough for the jacks to clear or wide enough for them to land onto the deck), lift camper off floor, disassemble and remove floor assembly, lower camper onto custom built cradle to support it securely on trailer deck.
Also, given that the camper will need to be at the front of the trailer, your tongue will be carrying the majority of the weight which means you're little F150 base Expedition will be overloaded long before the jeep is put on the trailer.
yeah, ive seen the gooseneck trailer setups plenty. Cant use my expedition with a gooseneck trailer. I think I mentioned it but this would be a setup for just using the trailer and camper. No jeep. Expy has a 9000lb tow rating and I assume 900lbs on the tongue. Im sure Id get a good amount of the weight on the trailer axles too though right? I wouldnt think capacity would be an issue. I do have a weight distribution hitch as well.
I am worried about stability...but I guess those smaller bumper pull travel trailers are basically the same thing right? I was thinking I just needed to worry about tie downs.
JoeChiOhki wrote: If you've looked closely you'll note that almost all of the camper haulers on trailers are goosenecks.
The reason for this is stability, trying to haul a camper on a bumper pull may not be terribly stable, given the higher center of gravity of the camper after being loaded onto a platform to support it (You'll have to build a cradle to hold the camper in place on the trailer).
As to getting it on, get your self a dozen 2x12s and build a tightly framed floor assembly that's wider than the trailer is, then build legs for it using multiple 4x4 posts that are higher than the trailer fenders are.
Back camper to spot, get 5 or so people to move floor assembly into place under camper, lower camper onto platform and raise it's jacks to clear the trailer, then back trailer under lower jacks again (If your trailer is narrow enough for the jacks to clear or wide enough for them to land onto the deck), lift camper off floor, disassemble and remove floor assembly, lower camper onto custom built cradle to support it securely on trailer deck.
Also, given that the camper will need to be at the front of the trailer, your tongue will be carrying the majority of the weight which means you're little F150 base Expedition will be overloaded long before the jeep is put on the trailer.
yeah, ive seen the gooseneck trailer setups plenty. Cant use my expedition with a gooseneck trailer. I think I mentioned it but this would be a setup for just using the trailer and camper. No jeep. Expy has a 9000lb tow rating and I assume 900lbs on the tongue. Im sure Id get a good amount of the weight on the trailer axles too though right? I wouldnt think capacity would be an issue. I do have a weight distribution hitch as well.
I am worried about stability...but I guess those smaller bumper pull travel trailers are basically the same thing right? I was thinking I just needed to worry about tie downs.
Not quite, the smaller bumper pulls are designed specifically to be towed by smaller vehicles and thus have their weight distribution laid out differently.
Truck Campers are designed to be bed mounted on a pickup and have their weight laid out to utilize the stability of being on a much longer wheel base (Wheels in the front and in back vs just wheels under the rear).
Given that your TV is a half-ton chassis model designed for being a people hauler and perhaps a feather weight trailer due to the lighter vehicle weight and lacks the bulk of it's bigger Excursion brother, you could very easily wind up in a tail wagging the dog scenario if you were to get caught in a cross wind.
If your wife doesn't like the ride of the truck, perhaps it would be wiser to improve the front seats and the step up vs trying to move an RV with the wrong type of vehicle meant for it.
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BobsYourUncle wrote: 2 - 12 foot fir 6X6's and 4 - 45 gallon drums, and some criss-crossed 2X4's screwed together to add height to the drums. ...
I have used this method an a couple of occasions. In my younger days, I worked with a house moving company. We moved many structures with this method.
I have four Steel pipe saw horses I use instead of the 45 gallon drums, and use 4"x6" instead of 6"x6", side to side. Just a bight lighter in weight. I used two saw horses, with the 4x6's (front to rear) to store the TC on. My saw horses are 1-1/2" black pipe, available from most box hardware/lumberyard stores. Very simple in design, using all straight pieces of pipe.
This method allows you to lift the TC with the jacks on the ground, place the four saw horses and two 4x6's under the TC. Raise the jacks and back under the TC. Now you lower the jacks to the trailer, lifting the TC. Remove the 4x6's and lower the TC on the trailer.
I simply used one 2x4 on each side of the TC, nailed to the deck with four nails. Tie-downs depend on how the trailer tie-downs are set-up.
You can place the TC anywhere you want on the trailer for ideal weight distribution.
Dually brackets and extensions will be JUST FINE for this application. It won't be "too much" if you don't try to live in the camper while the extensions are installed, and the camper isn't rotten.
On the rear, the jack brackets are likely sticking out the back of the camper. Simply swap them left to right and they will be sticking out the side. That will make them the EXACT SAME width as the fronts.
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If you place the truck camper on the trailer such that the truck camper's center of gravity point is just a little ahead of the trailer axles, you will end up with an appropriate tongue weight for the trailer that the Expedition can carry.
Camper COG point loaded 10-15% of the distance from the ball coupler to the center of the trailer axles, forward of the center of the axles will yeild a 10-15% tongue weight percentage of the whole loaded trailer & camper weight.
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