RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Weight Police - I need you opinion on this trailer/truck cmb

RV Blog

  |  

RV Sales

  |  

Campgrounds

  |  

RV Parks

  |  

RV Club

  |  

RV Buyers Guide

  |  

Roadside Assistance

  |  

Extended Service Plan

  |  

RV Travel Assistance

  |  

RV Credit Card

  |  

RV Loans

Open Roads Forum Already a member? Login here.   If not, Register Today!  |  Help

Newest  |  Active  |  Popular  |  RVing FAQ Forum Rules  |  Forum Help and Support  |  Contact

Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Toy Haulers

Open Roads Forum  >  Toy Haulers

 > Weight Police - I need you opinion on this trailer/truck cmb

Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 7  
Prev  |  Next
Sponsored By:
ksss

Eastern Idaho

Senior Member

Joined: 02/19/2011

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/17/12 06:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would not spend the money on airbags until you see what kind of sag you get. Just for kicks I took a 11000 pound track loader and pushed it way over onto the front of the trailer to see how much I could get the truck to sag. It didnt sag more than a couple inches I was amazed. We offroad camp practically everywhere we go. I learned the hardway to crank up the hitch height, and I put larger tires on the trailer. I am now practically back to level, so close it s not worth blocking up the suspension.


2006 GMC 3500 CC 4X4 D/A
2013 Fuzion 342
2011 RZR Desert Tan
2012 Sea Doo GTX 155
2005 GMC 5500 CC 4X4 D/A
2012 Chevy 2500HD 4X4 6.0 3.73


Kevin8520

Orange County, CA

Full Member

Joined: 06/12/2012

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/17/12 08:02pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Also, does a triple axle trailer (which the Attitude I am considering is) tow any better or reduce pin weight?


2011 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crew Cab SRW -6.6L Duramax Diesel, Standard Bed, 4x4
2007 Yamaha YFZ450 Special Edition
DL: CA Non-Commercial Class A

Tow Rating: 13,000
5th Wheel Rating: 16,700
Max Payload: 3,123
GVWR: 10,000
GCWR: 24,500
Front GAWR: 5,200
Rear GAWR: 6,200

lincster

Mesa Az

Senior Member

Joined: 01/27/2003

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/17/12 10:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

For bedrail clearance, I have 9" and wouldn't want any less for the dunes.

Triple axle will help with pin weight.

I just noticed your signature, are you sure the GCWR of your truck is 24,500? That is more than the F350 trucks.


2012 F350 PSD CC 4X4 Dually to pull 2006 LE3905

Lincsters Truck/Trailer

Lincsters Rail

Kevin8520

Orange County, CA

Full Member

Joined: 06/12/2012

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/17/12 10:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

lincster wrote:

For bedrail clearance, I have 9" and wouldn't want any less for the dunes.

Triple axle will help with pin weight.

I just noticed your signature, are you sure the GCWR of your truck is 24,500? That is more than the F350 trucks.


Thank you for the quick response and yes I am sure on the GCWR. My user manual lists it as 24,500 as well as these two websites:

http://www.trailerboats.com/output.cfm?id=2586781§ionid=318

http://www.gmc.com/sierra-2500hd-pickup-........ties.config%3Dcrew_cab_standard_box.html

On the second link you may have to choose crew cab standard box 4WD to see the rating there. And while it is a high GCWR, I will never be able to use it all because of other limiting factors like payload.

64thunderbolt

Az

Senior Member

Joined: 06/18/2012

View Profile


Online
Posted: 06/18/12 02:08am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pin wgt depends on the axle placement. Mine weighs 10,300 dry, 13K+ with everything in it. My pin wgt is around 2K.

With a trailer that size a srw is an accident looking for a place to happen. Just imagine loosing a rear tire on a windy rd, I would imagine you'll be in the dirt. When I bought this trailer I converted mine to DRW. Cheaper than trading trucks. Just my thoughts.


Glen
04 Tail gator XT 34' 5th wheel garage model
99 F350 CC DRW 7.3 ais intake, adrenaline hpop, JW valve body,
cooling mist water inj, DP tunes, 4" turbo back exh sys
trucool trans cooler added
08 Arctic Cat Prowler 700XTX

64thunderbolt

Az

Senior Member

Joined: 06/18/2012

View Profile


Online
Posted: 06/18/12 02:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ksss wrote:

I would not spend the money on airbags until you see what kind of sag you get. Just for kicks I took a 11000 pound track loader and pushed it way over onto the front of the trailer to see how much I could get the truck to sag. It didnt sag more than a couple inches I was amazed. We offroad camp practically everywhere we go. I learned the hardway to crank up the hitch height, and I put larger tires on the trailer. I am now practically back to level, so close it s not worth blocking up the suspension.


Air bags helped me more with stability on windy mtn rds.

joebedford

Jasper, Ontario

Senior Member

Joined: 09/03/2003

View Profile



Posted: 06/18/12 06:26am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

lanerd wrote:

Most tow ratings are designed around a flat bed trailer with wheels at each of the four corners with very little tongue/pin weight.
Really? I didn't know that.


2011 Silverado 3500HD LTZ CCLB 6 x Michelin LTX MS2 80 psi
2011 Voltage 3950 6 x Bridgestone Duravis R250 80 psi
2004 H-D VRSCB(mine)
1996 / 2007 H-D / DFT FLHTCUI Trike(hers)

2004 Thor Dutchman 35SRV traded
2004 Dodge Ram 3500 5.9 CTD traded


lamopar

Oregon

Full Member

Joined: 06/03/2012

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 06/18/12 06:45am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Kevin;
I haver a 32ft trailer that I pull with an 03 2500 Ram. It is close to the total weight I can pull, hitch to, and mixed with the truck it is ~2,000 below the max GCVW. Mine is a triple axle. I found out the tongue weight was listed at 1630 and with water, batteries and propane it is just under 2,000. If you are pulling with your factory hitch ensure it is weight rated for that weight. I am using a class V I added as the factory hitch is only rated at 10K. I am running air bags as I already had them but with the Reese weight distribution I don't need them at all. I am concerned about a blow out with the heavy tongue weight but keep the speed down as it does not make a big difference on when I get there. I will upgrade in the future to a larger dually truck but for now this is working fine. I know my 03 does not have near the capacity of the new trucks and it works fine with the 32ft. I can tell it is back there on hills. That is my story on my toy hauler.

lincster

Mesa Az

Senior Member

Joined: 01/27/2003

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/18/12 08:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

lamopar wrote:

Kevin;
I haver a 32ft trailer that I pull with an 03 2500 Ram. It is close to the total weight I can pull, hitch to, and mixed with the truck it is ~2,000 below the max GCVW. Mine is a triple axle. I found out the tongue weight was listed at 1630 and with water, batteries and propane it is just under 2,000. If you are pulling with your factory hitch ensure it is weight rated for that weight. I am using a class V I added as the factory hitch is only rated at 10K. I am running air bags as I already had them but with the Reese weight distribution I don't need them at all. I am concerned about a blow out with the heavy tongue weight but keep the speed down as it does not make a big difference on when I get there. I will upgrade in the future to a larger dually truck but for now this is working fine. I know my 03 does not have near the capacity of the new trucks and it works fine with the 32ft. I can tell it is back there on hills. That is my story on my toy hauler.


He is looking at a 5th wheel, not a tow behind.

sin cal sd

Hooligan #109

Senior Member

Joined: 02/01/2006

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/18/12 10:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Buy the air bags on the way home and install them. You will be glad you did. Cali highways love to bounce your rig. Your first trip you will feel the bottoming out effect the pin weight will do to your bump stops. The bags will help cushion your ride and help with taking some weight off the rear axle and put back on the trailer axles.


My Pics
08 F-250 Lariat 4x4 CC
Wife and 2 Little Boys


Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 7  
Prev  |  Next

Open Roads Forum  >  Toy Haulers

 > Weight Police - I need you opinion on this trailer/truck cmb
Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Toy Haulers


New posts No new posts
Closed, new posts Closed, no new posts
Moved, new posts Moved, no new posts

Adjust text size:

© 2013 RV.Net | Terms & Conditions | PRIVACY POLICY | YOUR PRIVACY RIGHTS