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Thank you for the information.

I looked at the web page. It gives 1,458 payload,which should be fine. The two of us are about 350lbs. + 720 tongue, leaving 388lbs for gear. I cannot think on what I would carry that will take this much weight in the truck. Am I wrong? Please advice.

This will leave a little over 7,000 for towing. The trailer weights dry 5895 lbs. This would leave 1,000. Again, I cannot think about what I would put in the trailer that would add 1,000, but maybe I am wrong since I am new at this. Am I wrong? Please advice.

Thanks for your thoughts, they are appreciated.

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Dont forget fuel for the TV and increase of hitch wt for a loaded trailer

You can tow the wt but i think you are out of payload.

Lok for a calculator program online.


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I'd start with the yellow Tire and Loading sticker on your truck's driver's door jam for actual as equipped payload. It will be lower than any web site listing.

350 pounds of cargo is easy to fill up. I have never seen a pickup pull into a campsite with an empty bed. Bikes, firewood, kayaks, camping chairs, grill, etc. That's where all the dirty/wet stuff is supposed to go.

Still, only 2 people and it should be good, right at GVWR. Get a good WD hitch with integrated sway control.


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Racine96 wrote:

Thank you for the information.

I looked at the web page. It gives 1,458 payload,which should be fine. The two of us are about 350lbs. + 720 tongue, leaving 388lbs for gear. I cannot think on what I would carry that will take this much weight in the truck. Am I wrong? Please advice.

This will leave a little over 7,000 for towing. The trailer weights dry 5895 lbs. This would leave 1,000. Again, I cannot think about what I would put in the trailer that would add 1,000, but maybe I am wrong since I am new at this. Am I wrong? Please advice.

Thanks for your thoughts, they are appreciated.


I believe you'll be pushing more like 850-900 lbs of tongue weight.


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Eric,

I am going by the sheet spec. How do you get to 130 or 180 lbs more on tongue weight? Am I missing something? Please advice as I am new at this.

Thank you for your time.

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One more thing, it has been recommended to me to get an Equalizer sway control hitch. I was told it was the best. Is this true? Is it any good? Please advice. Thanks.

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Dry tongue weight is not loaded tongue weight. Any weight loaded on the TT in front of the axles (like front bedroom closets, outside storage) will increase from dry. Any weight added behind the axles will reduce TW. Many manufacturers to not include propane tanks and battery in their published dry tongue weights either.

Now, using weight distribution will reduce the load on the tow vehicle's axles by about 25%, but the WDH itself weighs about 75-200 pounds.

You need a weight distributing hitch. Equal-i-zer 4-pt with integrated sway control is a great one, as the similarly priced Reese Strait Line/Dual Cam. There are technical differences in how they reduce sway, but the real world experience shows they are both very effective when properly adjusted.

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Racine96 wrote:

Eric,

I am going by the sheet spec. How do you get to 130 or 180 lbs more on tongue weight? Am I missing something? Please advice as I am new at this.

Thank you for your time.


Just a guideline formula.

5800 dry + 1000 options/gear = 6800 loaded trailer

6800 x 13% minimum tongue weight = 884 lbs.

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Racine96 wrote:

. . . I cannot think about what I would put in the trailer that would add 1,000, but maybe I am wrong since I am new at this. Am I wrong? Please advice.


The coaches you mention will carry 30 gallons of water. that is 250 pounds right there. Waste water could be twice that much on occasion. I am not sure whether Keystone rates their trailers with batteries and full propane bottles or not but those items could weigh another 200 pounds or more, depending on what batteries and propane canisters you choose.

Please don't misunderstand. I am not saying the combination is unsafe or unworkable. I am just saying I would prefer a little more weight margin.

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Thank you folks. I am learning with everyone's comments.

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