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Posted: 06/25/12 06:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Folks, I have a fuzion 360 which is 40'. It is pre-wired for a second A/C but it was never installed. Do you know if a 2nd A/C can be tied into the existing ducting?

Also does a second A/C in the bedroom main a big difference in the cooling down of the entire camper?

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The 2nd a/c will be a flow down / directional (ie no ducting). You could always pull the ceiling apart and tie it into the ducting there but it would probably be too much output for the single bedroom duct that is already there. I love our bedroom A/C and often times sleep with it running.

Any time you can get more A/C into an area, you will cool it. Remember, Toy haulers are not that energy efficient with their slides, single pane windows, and all of their "holes". Some people have gone through them and sealed up what they can but if you are parked in the desert, good luck.


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I have 3 A/Cs stock duct system, roof mt in the fbr and a free standing unit in the garage where I tied the heat exhaust into the existing dryer heat outlet since I won't use a w/d works great will freeze your butt out. I sleep back there since the wifes a nurse and works nights she has a hard time sleeping so she's up a lot but I need my beauty sleep lol I also tinted all my windows with Llumar N1020B keeps 77% of the heat out, made with copper and works great with the factory glazed tint, makes it hard to see in as well

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Posted: 06/25/12 08:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BeachPirate wrote:

Folks, I have a fuzion 360 which is 40'. It is pre-wired for a second A/C but it was never installed. Do you know if a 2nd A/C can be tied into the existing ducting?

Also does a second A/C in the bedroom main a big difference in the cooling down of the entire camper?

Thanks
Bryan

I don't know about your specific rig but in mine, the bedroom A/C is connected to the same ducts as the main unit and makes a big difference cooling the whole rig.

It also has a dump directly down vent that makes up for my unit not having a ceiling fan. Hot? Stand under than one for 2 minutes even with just the fan on


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Our bedroom a/c is not ducted, but it makes a huge contribution to cooling the whole rig down. We just open the bedroom & bathroom doors and run them both if we need to cool quickly.

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Posted: 06/26/12 09:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The new unit you purchase should have instruction for connecting to duct work.

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Let me start by saying most larger TH have a primary a/c with 15,000btu capacity and the secondary master bedroom unit is 13,500btu. Most larger TH have ducted pri units and non ducted sec units. Although have seen some large 5th wheel th that have a separate duct system to do the master bed and the bathroom/hallway and a vent in the kitchen area also. Either way, together they supply 28,500 btu of cooling to your TH. More than enough for most extreme conditions short of being in the desert direct sun under no shade mid day summer.And even then it still would be bearable, although 72* probably not possible.

To answer your question, unless there is a separate duct system for the second a/c unit, connecting it to the same ductwork as the primary a/c unit, while its(both)running, will be a problem for sure.
Each a/c system needs its own ductwork in to order to run at the same time.
Anyone tells you different, they don't know hvac... for sure.
Here is why...

If you are going to try and tie into the pri units supply duct in the master bedroom, it will be like trying to paddle up the creek without a paddle, pissing against the wind, etc...
You will cause the primary unit to run at a lower less efficient superheat(by cutting down its airflow), and cause the secondary master bedroom unit to maybe freeze up, because of a large lack of airflow from connecting its total output to the 1 supply duct in the master fighting the primary unit.
A/c duct systems are sized to carry a specific amount of air (cfm) at a specified pressure drop so that the unit can supply the full amount of cfm and specified btu.
In other words, you wont get the benefit cooling you are looking for.

Bottom line...
NO WAY you will get the combined 15,000 btu + 13,500 combined cooling of 28,500 by connecting the sec unit to the master bedroom supply duct. And, will maybe/possibly damage 1 or more of the units running connected to the same duct system.

* This post was edited 06/26/12 11:26am by allcool *


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I'll second allcool's explanation, sounds like we're in the same business!


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I have the same 360, was considering bedroom ac. Any idea of the difficulty level for a self install?

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I just did a second AC install. My main unit is a Ducted 15k btu, the second unit is a non ducted 11k btu. Having your rig prewired makes the job much easier.

The problems I ran into were just having to buy the upgraded longer bolts and duct extention becauseof the thickness of my roof.

See my intall here.

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseac........d/24020104/gotomsg/25971865.cfm#25971865


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