2Blazers. I saw that you had mentioned that in an earlier post. I don't understand why daily driving a 5500 would be any different from daily driving a 3500. Neither will fit in a standard parking space.
I am going to add 19.5's and H rated Toyo's to my 3500 and drive it for now.I am also going to try to move some weight forward or remove it altogether. Spare tire .... Carry less propane ... Get junk out of truck ect.
I noticed that someone was adding a brake system to a jeep earlier in the thread. I added an NSA Ready Brake and love it. No boxes on the floor to deal with and it is true proportional braking. Also half the price of other systems and easy 1 -2 hour install in the driveway with basic tools.
Yes Ram rates them lower but American Axle and Dana rates them at 10200lbs and 15K respectively.
I'm a CPA and Partner in a CPA firm. My work commute is only 5 miles each way but I do go visit many clients, many times fitting a dually crewcab in client parking lots is a pain. A 5500 flatbed being a foot longer will just make it harder. Also daily driving a 5500 flatbed i could already hear my back hurting from it. The dually 3500 is my limit in size for daily driving.
... and stay on the TC Forum
This is where all of the action is...
along with truck camper owners being the best...
Actually.... we have owned truck campers since 1969... and we'd never consider downgrading to anything.
How about you?
A lot of action here. For us it depends on the family growth. We have an 8 year old. We end up having/adopting a couple more kids and likely we will move towards a monster toy hauler. We are already 53' long with the camper on and enclosed trailer with toys in it. On second thought, the camper might stay and we ADD a toy hauler. love the flexibility of just taking the camper for quick trips to the coast and we can park and camp anywhere.
What a great thread! Good read all around. I have a 2012 Ram 3500 and was hauling a Lance 1181. I had added Supersprings and air bags to the rear. I flat tow a Jeep mostly but do also have a 16ft enclosed trailer that can go 5000lbs loaded. Jeep is also 5000lbs but no tongue weight. The Lance sat right on the rear axle.
Empty Weight 4500 ft, 3500 rear
Lance Weight 4500 ft, 8500 rear
I just bought a Chalet DS 116RB with the optional third slide. Love the camper but!
Chalet Weight 4800 ft, 11000 Rear
Now I wish I had bought a 5500 and am considering a trade.
The big difference between the 3500 and 5500 is the rear end.
According to the axle manufacturer the rear axle in the 3500 is rated at 10200lbs The axle in the 4500/5500 is rated at 15000.
Both the trailer and my Jeep has a braking system.
I am torn between upgrading the rims and tires to 19.5's and keeping my non-def 2012 or biting the bullet and buying a Hemi 5500 and building a utility body for it.
And Ram rates the rear axle on the 3500 dually only at 9,250 on like my 2011. And 9,750 on the 2015 model. Heavy camper and its really easy to be over 10K on the rear axle. The 4 steel wheels rate at 2,750 each or 11,000 total.
I'm leaning towards a 5500 flatbed but the only issue is I can't daily drive for work a 5500 flatbed so the TC carrier becomes really just a motor home chassis and I keep my 2011 for driving to work and other truck duties....I've been daily driving a dually for 10 years now.
I keep going back and fourth,
Overlanding has pretty much ruined what we use to just call back country camping and exploring. Too much fakery and too much money has ruined it. Would you like a shovel for $300 or $4.99? They both work.
Some of the builds that are actually used are really impressive. But to many builds are used 1 weekend a year and really just built to be a mall crawler. ie Jeep JK on 37s with a roof top tent.
The author seemed pretty clueless. a poorly researched article.
We just drove through Tacoma on our return from Long Beach. We're making a trip out to Quincy before we start a 3-week round trip to Colorado Springs. Unless we cross paths camping, we are booked out until August.
We're about the same - heading to the truck camper rally in Colorado and back home in August. Maybe a three rig rally out to Grayland or some place?
Currently installing a supplemental braking system (Unified Tow Brake) to tow a Jeep Rubicon and want to tow it to Colorado but this install project is taking foreeeeever.
I'd like someone with a lot of truck camper experience to drive my rig and tell me how the handling feels to them. I only have my own experience with my own rigs, so have nothing to compare with.
We will be at the CO rally too!. We had out July 18th....we are tying it into our usual first week of August Utah RZR/ATV riding trip so we will be gone 23 days. Looking forward to the whole thing. but first work work work work work.
Pic of our set up we are taking. http://i.imgur.com/4xg2c5bl.jpg
Every camper is different. I know on my AF 1150 everything is bottom floor flat until you get to the exhaust for the generator. I've measured mine and I could easily slide it all the way forward on a 9' flatbed.
But really we are truck camper people. We don't need to tow and haul a 30,000 trailer. We need a high rear axle rating because we turtle carry 5-6K pounds on the flatbed or pickup box. Some of us do haul a trailer too, but my camper plus my loaded up enclosed trailer would still only total 14k pounds which is not even half the tow rating of these amazing trucks. Even a detuned chassis cab would have plenty of power for hauling any truck camper and 6-7000# trailer.
The CTD in the 2016 Ram will have 900 ft.-lb. Of torque. That will put a smile on your face.
Yep been reading about that! :)
But the 4500/5500 always run less power for more long term durability at max loads.
At the dealership the fleet guy ordered me a 2016 Ram 3500 to come late August or September...I'm excited about it but actually been spending time wondering and researching if I should switch to a 4500/5500. Even with the increased GVW to 14K, with my AF 1150 I'm pretty much right there already, they did not change the axle ratings a whole lot for the 14k GVW rating.
The only thing holding me back on the flatbeds is it will than be just the camper hauler won't be driving a flatbed to the office and to client meetings (I'm a CPA) with the dually pickup I can still daily drive it.
We have the pressure regulator and a water filter all the time on when using water hookups.
Basically I'd say that the hose had too sharp of a bend coming off the pump, this is where the pin hole leak came from....hose should have been a couple inches longer at the factory.
We were camped this past weekend in Harris Beach State camp ground with full hook ups. Was hooked to the water provided and had left it on since we arrived the evening before. We were at the play ground and I ran back to the camper to get something....and saw water dripping under the front of my truck bed onto the ground and a good sized puddle. That ain't right!!
After looking in cabinets and the step to the cab over bed....
So I had a pin sized hole in the 150PSI pressued hose after the pump that feeds the water system. It was basically a little tiny streaming into the basement of the camper. That ain't good.
So turned of the park water and tried the pump, leak is the pressured side of the pump, it still leaked. So no water to use, not good.
We ended up running to ACE hardware store, bought 1 foot of 150PSI 1/2 tubing, a coupler, razor hose cutter tool, and two more small hose clamps. Cut about 8'' of the old pipe that had the pin sized hole and added the new 1 foot section. Been working great since. This is all under the step into the cab over bed. Tight space. You could not hear the water peeing since we were hooked to the provided water spigot.
If we had been using our tank and water pump we would have found this much earlier, likely that prior night shortly after hooking up.
And yes we usually turn water off and the water heater off if we are going somewhere for the day, but we were just down at the play ground.
I have the step open with a fan blowing down there, hoping it drys out in the hot weather we are having. This weekend will be opening up the corner of the underbelly to make sure the insulation is dried out. Thinking some of it will be wet still.
Finally got the projects on the new trailer done, as well as a couple truck upgrades, so I went out for a 4-day boondock run. Went to a little place to go play in the sand called Beverly ORV Park, just south of I-90 near Vantage. Ran 3 passes, Tiger Mtn, Snoqualmie Pass, and our notorious "Vantage Hill" (otherwise known as radiator hill).
Truck changes done this last couple weeks-- Banks Quick Turbo kit that involves new exhaust-side housing, compressor side wheel, and new Big Head waste gate.
New trailer - replaced a 20' 7k lb Interstate enclosed trailer with a shiny new 2015 26' 10k Wells Cargo. Put a 19' motorized awning and 550 watts of solar on it, equipped it with three 145aH batteries, beverage fridge and freestanding icemaker.
So - new turbo and cold air intake - clearly, the PCM/ECU had to learn a new airflow/fuel curve. Initially, I thought, man, what a waste of money, less boost, higher egts. But after about 30 minutes it started to come alive. I have more power, and better MPG. Pulling all 3 passes, I gained on average 5mph, and at the end of this trip pulling all these passes I used to average 7.5mpg, fill up/calculator method had me now @ 8.7mpg -- and the trailer is 1,500lbs heavier.
Trailer is 1,500lbs heavier
Gained 5mph pulling hills
Gained 1.2mpg, from 7.5 to 8.7
Cruising flat 60mph - boost came down from 8lbs to 5lbs, pyro from 850 to 750.
Worth noting - my mpg is not that bad when running on the flats, it's the 3 passes that kill it whenever I head east.
The new trailer hauled like a dream... I have the 42" Torklift truss, had to make several sharp turns to get in and out of the fuel stops and campsite, no issues.
Some pics of the place---
It rained for 3 days straight before I got there, hence the muggy, and the big puddle under my truck (and NO, that's not me pullin' the tank handles)
If you get a flat on the trailer will it drag the lower body work? Or hit curbs going over curbs. Looks really low....
Under all tire, wheel and axle ratings.
Slightly over the GVW rating only.
Way under the Gross Combined rating with the trailer and camper.
Fleet manager has a 2016 Ram 3500 on order with my name on it now. The 14K GVW will solve all my ratings. Should be delivered early fall.
Just curious has anyone had a blow out at freeway speeds?
Yes, our old '99 tent trailer, about 5 years ago, one tire going on vacation, other tire coming home, Tires were at least 4 year old. Both went on I84 in Oregon going about 65. Got new tires at Les Schwab and no troubles (sold a few years after that)
On my enclosed trailer on 2 year old tires about two years ago, had one explode, we heard the pop, and then pulled over, Sheriff was behind me and gave us an escort to the side :) About 3 months later another one went. After the second one, took them all to Les Schwab and they pro rated me into a new set of a ''Max Tow'' tires. LS said they actually had so much trouble with the set I popped that they stopped carrying them. A friend of mine with the same tires had two blow outs on one trip and exchanged his in just Like i did. All flats on I84 in Oregon going about 65.
Trouble free on trailer tires now for 12K miles and a couple years.
Dually truck handled the flats like a champ. Camper was on the truck with all the enclosed trailer flats.
It all really a mind game I think when it comes to mpg and time. The difference between 60-65 mph on a 300 mile trip is what 23 minutes. Same with Mpg. The difference between 9-11 on a 300 mile trip is like $18 bucks.
I can tell you though coming from a TT and a underpowered Ford to a TC with a Ram there is a huge difference between 55 and 70 mph on long destination travel.
Here is my math for two weeks ago....driving from Moab, UT home to Keizer Oregon in one day.
1080 miles at 75mph equals 14.4 hours
1080 miles at 65mph equals 16.6 hours
One day driving back, not hauling the camper but towing my enclosed trailer with 3 quads in the trailer, one quad in the bed of the truck. I stuck to 80 in UT and ID where legal, hit Oregon and did pretty much almost 75 all the way to Portland.... :) my buddies and I wanted to get home to our wives after riding quads for a week in Moab.