Mesquite, NV in February - Where to go riding?
We are planning on a trip to Mesquite, NV in late February. For this trip, we are leaving our Toyhaulers home and taking our enclosed trailers...staying in Motel. We have UTVs and ATVs. I'm looking for some advice on where to ride from those who have been there. Pictures would be great also.
Thanks!
RE: 5th wheel vs bumper pull for going offroad
IMHO, if you tow on flat roads or slightly hilly, a 5er will suit you fine. If you want to get away from it all, like toyhaulers allow, a bumper pull has much more versatility and can go more places provided your tow vehicle is also suited as such. Our TH has never seen an RV park except to store it. We always boondock and usually its in the mountains. Mountain roads are not very friendly to 5er towing, atleast not the ones I drive. The length of the trailer also determines your accessibility. The longer the trailer, the better roads you need.
I totally agree with your philosophy. It's not that it isn't or cannot be done...it's just that Mountain roads are more friendly to the TT.
BTW Brian, I agree, the walk around bed is really nice.
There are some folks on this site that have some great opinions, ideas and people...this is why I hang out here. However, consider what everyone says then buy what works for you.
RE: 5th wheel vs bumper pull for going offroad
mapguy: Your set up is nearly identical to what we are looking at.
bad brad: Yeah, we will not even consider anything over 32' for 5er or 28' for bumper pull. Downside of the TT is having to load all the extra stuff into the bed of the truck. Have yet to see a TT that has nearly enough storage for gear, chairs, bbq etc.
I think what has us sold on the 5er is tank sizes (nearly double most TT), pass through storage & built in generator. I would do a BP TH if any of them had walk around queen beds.
You're right, the storage capacity in a TT is generally much less. Seems the 5ers have some really neat underbody storage cubbies too--I like. With regards to tank sizes, what are you referring to...Fresh Water, grey and black tanks? If so, I believe mine are the same as the 5er. (referring specifically to the Raptors)
RE: Does that BIG Toy Hauler of yours make short trips a hassle?
1) Turn petcock to off and run fuel out of the carb
2) Let the bike cool off a little
3) Load the bike(s)
Undoubtedly you will have some spills etc. in the garage but a little simple green and rags cleans that right up. No problem what so ever with smells in the garage.
The best thing is getting to a spot in the evening and not having to unload till the morning if you don't want too!
Ditto.
RE: 5th wheel vs bumper pull for going offroad
I cannot speak from experience, but my brother is talking about going back to a TT for all the reasons you suggest. He currently has a 38' Raptor...it is a knockout nice trailer.
RE: What size of truck to buy?
I've had a smaller capacity/powered truck and it generally worked fine. However, my problem arose when I stepped up to a toy hauler, then a different and larger one. I personally would go right to the 1 ton. If you choose to get a gasser, be sure to get it with a gear ratio that accomodates what your towing. Get this wrong, especially with a heavy trailer, and you'll likely learn to hate it.
Additionally, the newer 1 tons certainly have a ride quality better than those from several years ago. Take them all for a ride and get what works for you.
Best wishes.
RE: Parking / Cover your Crew Cab Pick Ups
Being a lover of motorized vehicles, ALL of my stuff stays indoors...even my lawn mowers. As noted by others, it sure helps keep everything looking new.
My attached garage on the house is approximately 1400 sf with 3 bays. One bay is 46' deep, the other two are 24'. I keep my daily drivers in it, a Honda Accord and a Ford Escape. My kids currently get the deep bay for their bikes and toys. I keep my Polaris RZR S with a snow plow the third stall...ready to clear snow. I also have a detached garage that is 2000 sf, 14' ceiling, with 3 bays. This stores my Toyhauler, a 24' Haulmark Race Trailer, a 1980 Corvette and my Truck in addition to all of my yard equipment.
I think every guy should have a Man Garage. Once you do, you'll never go without again.
RE: Upcoming Scorpion Diesel More Complex Than Cummins/Duramax?
Nowhere in that article did it mention that the new Ford Scorpion is based off the baby Duramax 4.5, Ford copied a lot of ideas from it. I hope this engine does well for Ford, with the problems of the last 2 diesels...they could use it.
Problems with the last 2 diesels? I have the 6.4 and I'm thrilled. It rides outstanding, has great aesthetics inside and out. It pulls my toyhauler like a raped ape. Even better, I experienced the radiator leak, but other than that, No Problems. It is true that the fuel economy could be better, but considering the lift and 37" TOYOs on my truck, I'm even good with the fuel economy.
RE: Upcoming Scorpion Diesel More Complex Than Cummins/Duramax?
Adam Gryglak is the Ford design engineer responsible for the new Scorpion 6.7 Ford PSD engine. Really interesting story here, if you want to know more about the development of this new engine right from the guy who gave it life!
Business Week Magazine
Excellent link 'dooty'
I like the fact a skunkworks was allowed,under anybody but Mually ( X Boeing ) I doubt it could of happened.
Not mentioned is that they seem to of held the line on price- kinda.
Alan has certainly been a breath of fresh air at Ford. He was very respected and liked at Boeing by most everyone. Kudos to him...I think Ford has a very bright future.
RE: Looking to buy UTV, possibly Rzr S, many questions!
Just bought an rzr s and can't wait to get it out on a trail somewhere.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p255/66cummins/rzr.jpg
If I haven't told you already...Nice RZR S. No more riding with Michelle or is she going to ride with you now? :h
RE: Looking to buy UTV, possibly Rzr S, many questions!
Heck, Honda's entry into the SxS market was a huge let down imo.
Honda only builds to please themselves, not the general public.:W:B
I'm generally a Honda fan...their SxS was certainly a let-down.
RE: DODGE or FORD
An ad for attorneys? Now that's oily :p
May be too much for you to grasp but, attorneys do handle lawsuits.
I think that Dodge die-hards just have a problem accepting reality. Here's more reality, Ford has been the number 1 selling pickup for how many years in a row now? Heck, Dodge hasn't even made the top 2 position in pickup truck sales yet. Shhh, listen, I think I can hear Dodge owners cringe.:E
Sales numbers do not equal quality. Using your logic, McDonalds sells the best hamburgers.
Ford diesels have been a distant 3rd to the GM Duramax and Dodge Cummins since 2003. Ford = Great trucks, good gas engines, lackluster diesel engines. Go ahead and google PSD and spend the next several days reading about the problems. How's that for some bitter reality? :E
Here comes my bias...
I like the Cummins...it is certainly a great engine. I admit, I'd certainly entertain a Cummins in my Ford if I would have had a choice when I bought it new. Of course this wasn't an option. Because of this, I settled for the 6.4, which has been absolutely awesome anyhow, and bought the best looking, highest quality body and interior of any of the new trucks available. The same holds true for the previous Ford body styles as well...they are great trucks.
Bottom line is, I refuse to drive a butt-ugly, uncomfortable second rate truck :o. Ever wonder why they generally cost less than the Ford... :h there you have it. Dodge and Chevy need to spend more time refining their trucks now that they have created respectable drivetrains.
If it came down to it, I'd rather push my Ford than be seen in anything else. At least I'd retain my pride and respect. :B:B:B
Seriously...buy what works for you.
RE: How do you keep thiefs out?
The elements here in Utah are brutal. Hot sun and some rain in the summer and snow and freezing in the winter. Because of this and the fact that I didn't want to replace my trailer every several years because it would eventually look beat up, we built a big garage to store it in. Being out of site and out of mind provides the best likelihood that it won't get broke into. Because of this, I've never had a single problem. (Knock on wood)
Unfortunately, I only built it 35' deep so when I bought my current Raptor, it wouldn't fit. Last spring, I knocked out 20' of the back wall and added 12' on with a roll-up door like the storage units have. Not only does the trailer fit, but all my yard equipment fits behind it as well.
The garage is expensive, but my trailer is protected and is in better condition than when I bought it new. (It is washed and dried after every use prior to putting it away.) Best of all, it will probably look new as long as I own it.
RE: Looking to buy UTV, possibly Rzr S, many questions!
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Can-Am. Lots of people waited for Yamaha...look what happened. To unseat the RZR, especially the RZR S, as the king of sideXsides won't be easy
I disagree because I believe we are in the infancy of UTV performance. Hopefully in 10 years we'll look back at the RZR S and laugh. I work in the UTV industry and am a huge fan of the RZR which I think revolutionized UTV's. Can Am has it's sights set directly at the RZR and will come out with something to out perform it is my guess and knowing Can Am it will cost a pretty penny... Mid summer 2010 we'll know and hopefully they'll blow us away. I sure do like their 255 horsepower :E jet ski's
Hi Quadhauler,
Interesting opinion, but history speaks volumes. BTW, it was suggested that Yamaha had something in the works to compete with the RZR and what was the outcome of that one? I had many friends very disappointed by that shortcoming...they all own RZRs now. LOL! Time will tell. No matter what, there haven't been very many machines that didn't come with a bunch of bugs the first year. It happened with the Rhino, the RZR, it will certainly happen to a Can Am also.
Personally, I hope that Can Am does come out with something...it will prompt Polaris and Yamaha to step things up a notch, something all of us would like to see. To both manufacturers benefit, there is so much aftermarket stuff going on, they will certainly reap some huge gains/benefits for cheap. You have to admit, it's good to be in front of the wave, not behind it.
RE: Looking to buy UTV, possibly Rzr S, many questions!
What do you RZR S owners say in response to those that claim the frames are much weaker than say, a Teryx or Rhino?
I know the many benefits of getting a RZR S as far as out of the box capability, but I'm wondering if there's something to this statement...? Are you a little more limited with this unit compared to a Teryx or Rhino with a 3-6" long travel as far as overall strength/capability/reliability?
I too am curious about this Can-Am SxS if it ever comes out.
Thanks all.
RZR frame is much weaker than the Teryx for sure, but unless you drop major $$$ into the Teryx, for duning the RZR S is far and away the best UTV out there. Little bird tells me that the Can-Am will be out mid summer 2010 Can't wait to see it since it'll be aimed directly at unseating the RZR as the sport UTV :C
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Can-Am. Lots of people waited for Yamaha...look what happened. To unseat the RZR, especially the RZR S, as the king of sideXsides won't be easy.
Lots of people are suggesting a bigger engine in the Can-Am. With it will likely come more weight that will offset some or all of the gain in power. This happened with the Teryx already. Take the RZR, add a turbo or blower and it will put a smile on your face...this isn't just a dream either. Forget worrying about the RZR frame...it is a non-issue to 99% of the owners.
No matter what, make your own decision. Most of our comments here have some bias in them. Go out and ride all of them and buy what feels/works best for you.
RE: Looking to buy UTV, possibly Rzr S, many questions!
I've never had any problems with mine after jumping it with a passenger (approx 450lbs) and 4-5' off the ground. They land amazingly smooth.
Additionally, I recently posted a question on the RZR Forum (www.rzrforum.net) regarding this. Check out the link: RZR Frame Issues?
Moab has also been great to ride. It for sure has seen some torture there...still no problems. See latest pics: Moab, UT Nov-09
Enjoy!
Brad
RE: Looking to buy UTV, possibly Rzr S, many questions!
I have had my RZR S for about a year now. I wondered if I'd really like it...I also have a Honda TRX450R that is really fast. Since buying the RZR, I have ridden my 450 for about 30 minutes total. It is awesome to have full back support, a radio and a roof. I'm sold on the RZR and now looking to buy another one for the wife. My kids would rather ride with us than ride their EX250's. It's been a blast. No problems at all so far. BTW, paddle tires do make a difference at the dunes. The stock tires are outstanding for everything else, especially climbing the rocks in Moab. Check out YouTube...search for Moab UTV Rally. There are some great videos of UTVs.
Send me a message if you need more information.
Brad
RE: Slickrock Campground, Moab, Utah. Anybody been there?
We've had a riot there. Two well known trails, Hell's Revenge and Fins and Things, are nearby. Hell's Revenge is mostly slickrock with some great overlooks of the Colorado River. I'd recommend Moab in general. Do a google search to identify the various trails available (many will even identify their difficulty so there's no surprise awaiting you).
Enjoy.
My Apologies to the Toyhauler Forum
I recently posted a couple threads regarding my experience with some waxes, polish and cleaners advertised at a great price on ebay. Seems I have crossed the line because my posts appeared to be an advertisement to the moderators here. I just wanted to apologize to anyone who may have took offense to the threads. I can assure you that my only intent was to provide my personal experience with the product and inform everyone that there was a good deal available for the same products I used. The outcome of my use of the products were outstanding and well beyond my expectations, hence my posts.
I thought helping others was the intent of this forum...seems I may be on the wrong forum. No need to search for the threads as they have been deleted by the moderators here.
Sorry,
