On most of those mercury safety systems you do have to push to turn from the off position, but that is a simple mechanical lock to keep the knob from being bumped to the pilot on position, so you can push the knob in and it will move, it just doesn't do anything other than pass the lock.
Got it. From reading his post, I thought he had an actual separate button that had to be pressed before lighting the pilot.
I was pushing the same button / knob that you turn for the oven pilot and temperature setting.
Yes it has a lock that you have to push in to turn. I was thinking it is the same as one you have to push to light the pilot in a conventional hot water tank or similar. I just assumed that I was pushing to feed gas for the pilot until the non existent thermocouple held the flow.
Well, Woodglue, I am listening...
I bought a Garmin 3790LMT, thinking it was the latest greatest bestest everythingest. This thing has been a total PITA from the word go.
I had to take it back not once, not twice, not 3 times, but 4 times and exchange it before I got one that actually worked. They have a good warranty and they need it.
My Garmin has been a real pain all along. It CONSTANTLY tells me to drive one street parallel to a main route, going down back alleys and narrow side streets instead of the main street.
I find the Garmin has the most ridiculously programmed routes. It will tell me to drive 10 miles up a road, crank a U turn and come back the same ten miles and turn left. Why can't it just tell me to turn right at XX road instead?
I bought the top of the line Garmin thinking I was buying the best, but such is not the case. The Garmin is a piece of junk........
I had a cheapo Magellen before the Garmin. It was way better for 1/4 the price.
I won't buy another Garmin. They are a totally useless POS!!
Thanks again Chris.
It is an old trailer and I am not about to do any retrofitting of the oven.
A lot easier to use it knowing that the pilot flows when on, lit or not. I'll just turn it off when done using the oven.
I have a super sensitive sniffer on me - I always have so I can smell even the tiniest bit of gas.
Good to know the level from the pilot is that small.
1997 model does not use a thermocouple, it uses a mercury safety valve, but no safety on the pilot, so it is working as designed.
Really? Wow, not a safe design at all is it?
But now that I know, I can govern myself accordingly.
I have been on the road since Nov.12 and so along with that comes the usual stuff - cooking and using things in the TT.
I use my oven often to bake fish & chicken for dinner. So I lit the pilot light and never gave it another thought. That is until I ran out of propane.
No big deal, go out and switch to the other tank and I'm good to go. I came back in, switched things back on, except the oven pilot and went back to work.
Couple hours later I come in for a potty break or something and Whoa! Stinks in here of propane! Quickly take evasive action, shut things down to evaluate the situation. Aired the place out well and carried on.
Anyhow long story short, I didn't relight my oven pilot, no need to, thermocouple should shut off the flow to the pilot.
I turned the oven to pilot, and WITHOUT pressing the button I reached in with the lighter thingy and it lit! Hmmmm crumbs! that ain't supposed to happen!
Now correct me if I'm wrong but I assume the oven is supposed to have a thermocouple in there to prevent what just happened to me.
Should be a nice pain in the a... adams apple to change the thermocouple, if it has one. It should have one.... Shouldn't it?
1997 Wedgewood stove.
Solution for now is to turn the pilot off after every use to be safe.
Oh, and my gas detector didn't utter a peep...... Hmmmmm, maybe it's toast too. It's a newer unit, replaced by the previous owner.
At least you have not lost your sense of humor.
I see the true cold is about to descend upon us. Forecast for Friday night in Regina is -33 C. (-27.4 f).
Go to Walmart and buy a heating pad. You may need to tuck it around the propane tank and/or regulator if the weather really goes much colder. The propane may not boil fast enough to supply the furnace.
While you are at it get a 2nd one for your bed.
I'll never lose my sense of humor!!
Hadn't thought about the propane flow stopping. Good tip, thanks.
Bed isn't too bad if I keep myself down the mattress a bit. Top is frozen to the wall - storage compartment is right below. I brought some 1 1/2" SM foam, but haven't got around to cutting a chunk for the storage bay door. Suppose I should do it...
I did insulate a few windows on the inside with 1/4" foam board (Fome-Cor). That helped a bit. Should do the rest instead of being on the computer!
I keep the thermostat up enough to keep it around 70 in here. It's comfy enough.
Geeze Bob, just out for a rip?:B
The good news is that, if the wind keeps up, you'll have the rig skirted in no time.
Keep warm up there!
Woke up this morning and it was half skirted! Drifts 3 feet deep in some places.
OK, Bob here with another story..... Some of you here know me for some stories I have related through my RV experiences. Here is another one!!
I ran out of work at home and there are a number of companies out there who know me for my skills and want me to come do some work for them.
OK, so a good friend of mine has been after me for a long time to come help him catch up with his sunroom installations. So dummy Bob waits until November to run out to Alberta, Calgary to be exact, to jump out there and install some projects.
November?? Sure why not! OK, so I hook up the TT and go for it!
I get here and for the first few days all is well, around freezing but what the heck. I get to my first project and things are OK.
But! then it got cold, temp dropped to minus 26C. Gads man what am I doing? TT is having a tough time - ice on the inside of the windows, use the potty and can't open the FF for some "fresh air" danged thing is frozen shut!!! Yeah well I guess it will ventilate itself eventually............
Somebody has lost his marbles here... Who in their right mind would go to a freezing area like Calgary and try to keep all systems a go?
Yeah Bob! dummy Bob! Sign me up! I'll do it! I am always up for an adventure! And an adventure it has been for sure. 7 30 pounders of propane since Nov 12 but I am warm here....
Got the "stat" set to keep me warm and all is well.
Somehow I seemed to have cracked something on my black water dump valve! Oh wonderful! YEAH Bob you're awesome! Park on the customers driveway and drip sewage on his concrete!! Can't believe how fantastic you are!!
So, a little red in the face I tell my customer - heyyyyyy pal sorry about the green stuff and the smell... but yeah it appears I have a leak coming from that thar pipe that connects to the.... well you know, the place where I sit down and ..... well you know....
Anyhow Mr. customer, sorry about the stain! I'll hose it down before I leave!
Are you laughing yet? I am! Can't see straight I'm laughing so hard!
Life is fun, only fun, no matter what happens. And for you who were weaned on a pickle and can't find humor in anything, well I'm sorry but life is fun and full of fun things. Lighten up and laugh for once in your life!
OK,on with the story.
Me! Thats who! I am an adventurer I am!
So shortly after I go here the temps plummeted way down, way down. Did I say way down? Yeah, way down. I hit minus 26C. Thats about minus 15F. Not exactly your typical comfy RV temperature!
Suck it up Bob, move on. So I did. Got the job done, happy customer and so on. Got paid, yahoo, I can buy some real food instead of this outdated packaged stuff I inherited from my mom when she died in Jan 12.
Next project, Calgary Alberta, lets go!
Oh boy what the heck is with this weather? And what in the flipping heck is with this white stuff?
first day I get things going and everything is ok.
Next day I get there and the snow is blowing 40 miles an hour sideways. And it is friggin cold!
I have my TT set up in an empty lot beside my customers house and it is good, nice and convenient.
I am on government property and have to be in line with their stupid rules, some jacka** comes along and tells me I can't be here! Liability and all that ! I mean seriously, what if I trip on a snowflake and injure myself and sue the government for 500 million dollars? Can't have that! I have to leave!
So in the middle of a really bad winter storm I have to pack up the TT and go find somewhere to park this thing. Winds are blowing so hard you can't see sweet all in front of you.
OK, I decide I'll hitch up and leave, so I do.
Middle of a freakin blizzard, oh yeah this is wonderful!
I get hitched up and So Sorry camperforlife and your wonderful post about warning about stepping over the hitch and doing a faceplant, but I did it anyways and stepped over my hitch and got the flip done, and I headed out.
I head down the highway, guided by my GPS, Snowing hard, freakin windshield wipers are icing up something fierce and I can't see where the flip I am going. roads are covered with so much snow I can't see the lanes. Weave back and forth, I can sorta see where I'm going, almost.
I get to my destination, the shop where I am working from and I find the wind has blown 3 foot snowdrifts where I need to park. I need to back in there, Hmmmmmmmmm. OK, line it up, poke the 4 WD button, crank on it, blow away the 3 foot drift and put the TT there. Hahaha! The heck with you snowdrifts!
OK, gotta plug in. I am knee deep in snow trying to get into the shop to plug in my cord. Got it done but gee whiz, the snow!!!
I waded through 3 foot deep drifts and got it done, here i am now hooked up and ready for the night.
Yunno, this is a blast! winter camping at its finest!
Gotta say, this is awesome! Here I am in the middle of a storm, TT rockin in the wind and loving the challenge of the event!!
So what is this about easy summer camping?
C'mon guys, lets have some winter FUN!!!!!!!!!
Anyone out there have any " male kahoonas?", and willing to haul the TT through this stuff?
3 feet deep in snow.,
How many of you will participate?
RV'ing is good!
Sorry to hear of your wipeout.
I step over the hitch all the time, virtually every time rather than walk around.
I have nearly done a faceplant several times, but I keep doing it.
And with a screwed up back, one knee and a few other things the last thing I need is to do what you did.
Thanks for the reminder.
In my trade I use a lot of adhesives and peel and stick type products.
I have successfully used them in freezing temperatures many times.
I always keep a heat gun handy and I not only warm up my work area, but after application I thoroughly warm up everything to make sure I have a good bond.
This applies to caulking as well. Because I work year round, I have a little box I made that holds 5 tubes plus my caulking gun with a tube in it. I have a battery blanket wrapped around the box and I keep it plugged in nearby. The caulking is nice and warm and flows freely. Combine that with the heat gun and a warm working surface and it works very well.
A couple months ago I had to back my TT down a very narrow twisty path that was overgrown with bush. I had to get out with a saw several times just to get it in there.
Anyhow, there was a pile of old lumber on one side and I didn't see it.
I twanged my dump plumbing on the way by. Not enough to rip it off, fortunately, but I have cracked something, not sure just what it is. There was remnant of old wood on my black gate valve.
When I pull the cap off to dump, there is a lot of liquid in the pipe from my black tank.
Also, when I am set up and the TT is in use there is a constant very slow drip coming from the area at the back of my black gate valve. A bit embarrassing when I am in a customers driveway!! :o
I haven't crawled under to get a good look yet, as the entire area is covered with road dirt and mud from the trip through the Canadian Rockies a few weeks back.
I think I may have to replace the gate valve and possibly so some black pipe repair or replacement.
Is there any brands of gate valves that are better than others? I'm sure there are the el-cheapos that you can get from WalMart and such, but considering the location and what the function is, I don't care what I pay for the thing, but I want a really good quality valve.
Does anyone have experience in these things? Know of a good brand name that is noted for quality?
Well, just got into Calgary a couple hours ago.
Flying J it was. I pulled in to the lot and wow! The place is huge! Semi trucks everywhere.
I drove around it until I found the dump site, then pulled up to the nearest door and walked in to pay. Nobody in sight, nobody in the office. Hmmmm. So I pulled away and parked beside a row of trucks, had a much needed shower and washed my dishes. Not worried about the water now!
1 3/4 fresh water tanks used and the grey is still not coming up the shower. Opened the thingy and peeked down the toilet and the black was full to within about 1/2 inch of the pipe that goes into the tank. I have been dumping some of my kitchen water down there.
I backed into the place and used the dump. Water was shut off but thats ok, the grey rinsed the hose anyways.
So then I pull back up to the door and go in to pay. Again, nobody in the office, nobody in sight. I hung around for a bit and no-one came in. So I left without paying. Hmmmm. Not sure what that was about.
Next time I drive by I'll stop in again to see if I can pay. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over it!
Thanks for the help everyone. :)
I found out from this site:
The Shell I suggested is also closed--as is the campground.
Thats a great list Don!
The Flying J mentioned says it is open year round but you may need an ice chipper to get the lid open - LOL!
Never paid ten bucks to dump before but today it will be worth every penny of it!
Thanks Gary, Don, Roy.
I appreciate all you guys help. Looks like I'll be pulling out this afternoon, so gotta dump, as the weather is supposed to go down to minus 30 by Thursday.
Should be an interesting ride.
Don I phoned that Shell on 16th. I'm still shaking my head! LOL!
The guy who answered the phone did not know what a dump station was. In fact, he didn't even know what an RV was! haha! He was from a different country. I guess maybe they don't have RV's in .......
Thanks Don, I'll call them.
I tried the Whispering Spruce when I first came here. Actually my customer called them for me and left his local number for them to call back. He told them I was looking for a winter site. They never did return his call.