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RE: Bigger Freshwater Tank
I was NOT addressing your tow vehicle. You said in your second post that you exceeded the gross of your Trailer, THAT is what I took exception to. Particularly in view of the fact so many people blow out RV tires from over loading and excessive speed. I hope I made myself clear I don't believe over loading an RV is ever something to shrug off as of little importance but it seems we may differ on that.
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GT Roach
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05/13/13 05:33pm |
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RE: Bigger Freshwater Tank
Why would you not care about over loading your axles, tires and wheel bearings on your trailer? I hope that when you blow one of your tires from exceeding their gross weight and role your trailer over no one else is close enough to get hurt.
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GT Roach
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05/13/13 09:04am |
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RE: Hauler for couple
Unless your f350 is a dually I think you are going to find the loaded pin weight will overload your rear truck axle or at least the tires. When looking for a 5er figure the pin weight will be 20-25% of the weight. And DO NOT use dry weight for any calculations figure on using the max weight. Nobody goes camping at the ''dry'' weight but after a few seasons most of us are surprised to find we are closer to gross.
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GT Roach
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05/08/13 11:11pm |
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RE: 2500HD Towing
You will be fine on your rear axle weight rating. From the manufacturer(not GM) your rear axle Weight rating is 10,400#. The 2500 and 3500 have exactly the same parts except for one overload spring in the rear and different wheels and tires. Frame, brakes, motor, tranny all are the same if duramax. Your tires and rims are the weak point. Upgrade those and you are from a weight point fine compared to a 3500. You may like a dually better though
with that big a trailer. Let the flaming begin.
10,400lbs for a 3/4ton rear axle?
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GT Roach
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05/06/13 10:05am |
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RE: 2500HD Towing
Why don't people actually weigh their rig loaded instead of using ''dry weight'' which is of no value. Yes weigh your trailer as you would use it and KNOW where you stand and what you need. Most 5ers, especially toy haulers exceed the rear axle weight of most 3/4 ton trucks IMO.
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GT Roach
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05/04/13 01:11pm |
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RE: Complete List of Toy Haulers
I noticed as ''orphaned'' the Komfort Karry All but we have a K2 by Komfort. Ours is a 2006 listed as 21ft but they also made 23s and a 25 I believe. I stopped by the Komfort plant shortly after buying it three years back and while Komfort is still in business they only made the K2 about a year or year and a half. It has served us well with few problems. Interestingly only one employee remains that worked on K2s.
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GT Roach
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04/18/13 09:52am |
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RE: Does your garage start smelling like fumes?
not a problem with either of our toy haulers over five years and many trips.
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GT Roach
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04/07/13 05:05pm |
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RE: Tires on 15in. Rim
All 15 inch ST (RV) tires I can find are currently imported with most made in China hence the name ''China bombs''. They are very well known to have all manner of problems but by far the most common are tread separations and blowouts. In your size if there is enough clearance I would bight the bullet and do what I plan and go to 16 inch 80lb rated rims and buy a good American made tire. My choice will be Michelins.
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GT Roach
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04/06/13 09:33am |
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RE: doors
I'm always amused by those that think there will be gas fumes with an open floor plan but after owning two now I'm still waiting for the fumes. The trouble I see with a ''garage'' floor plan is it limits more of the floor space. With our short 22 ft hauler we can put two quads end to end whereas with a garage unit we couldn't. Everybody has their own idea what's best.
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GT Roach
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04/04/13 10:42pm |
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RE: Looking for the ONE. Which one is it?
If I understand you right you want to pull a toy hauler with a gross weight of 7,500lbs with a V6? Even if no one guess with you and nothing is in the truck but you, a 150lb driver, and a full tank that is crazy. Do you realize how hard that will work that engine and transmission? That would give a V8 better than a good workout but a V6?
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GT Roach
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03/31/13 02:36pm |
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RE: Go big or go small
We started four years ago with a 17 ft toy hauler and Dodge diesel 3/4 ton for our Polaris RZR and now are up to the perfect size 22 ft toy hauler and a Dodge diesel dually. Toy haulers are heavy for their size and out west with many 6% grades I wouldn't try to pull one with any half ton.
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GT Roach
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03/17/13 05:14pm |
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RE: toy hauler FAQ's
We have had two toy haulers now, both open style, and have never had a gas smell anywhere in our unit. I've asked our friends and they have never had a problem either.
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GT Roach
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03/01/13 03:24pm |
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RE: First time buyer
One thing I find with the lightweight toy haulers is they often cut corners to save weight (more likely to save money) and end up sacrificing safety I think. A good example is axles, tires and wheel bearings. In my opinion Toy haulers should never use less than 5,000 lb axles and 16 inch wheels. There is a huge difference between 3,500lb and 5,000lb axles in all these areas PLUS they have smaller brakes.
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GT Roach
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02/27/13 11:05pm |
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RE: Considering toy hauler please advise
We put between three and six thousand miles a year on our small (22ft) toy hauler and as has been stated if you take upkeep, insurance other expenses in account we probably don't save money over staying in a motel but it's nice to stay in your own place every night AND we never worry about bed bugs.
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GT Roach
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02/21/13 10:54pm |
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RE: Towing Capacity
I can understand your frustration but I think the replies you have got were others opinions on the practicality and safety of towing a tongue heavy RV that would push the limits of your truck. With that said I would say if you don't plan on towing far, and you have a well setup equalizing style hitch, and you don't plan going into the mountains where 6% grades are found AND keep your total load as light as possible and well balanced you may find your truck usable with a 21 ft toy hauler. As I've said ours is called a 21 ft but the body measures 22'7" and without a toy but loaded to use weighs close to 8k. My old Dodge 2500 diesel pulled it good enough but was within 600 lbs of its towing capacity, which is why I traded for a 3500 Dodge dually.You must keep in mind also that a good 3/4 ton will have larger brakes too a desirable safety point. We towed our TH 6,500 miles last year, much of it in mountains, and there is no way I would have felt safe with any half ton.
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GT Roach
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02/14/13 02:38am |
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RE: Towing Capacity
Most people think they won't come close to the max RV weight but if you weighed your trailer (as you should) you'd find that it is quite a bit over dry weight when delivered and you'd be surprised how much closer to max weight you have become after a few seasons use. I see that you live in the west where 6% grades are common and this is going to work a gas truck very hard. I have a rule for me that I don't exceed 85% of my tow vehicle's capacity. Toy haulers are not only much heavier than TTs but the tongue weight is heavier too. With your trailer I think a half ton would be at best marginal.
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GT Roach
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02/10/13 11:05am |
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RE: Small Toy Hauler Without High Sticker Price
You don't tell us much such as what are you going to haul and what are you planning on towing it with. We started out with a 17 ft Vortex toy hauler and less than two years latter moved up to a 22 ft K2 by Komfort. Toy haulers are heavier than the same size travel trailer by quite a bit. Also the smaller the size the less you can carry for toys. More info would sure help.
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GT Roach
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02/07/13 10:58pm |
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RE: Toy hauler recommendations?
You don't give much idea on what you want to haul, how many people or what your tow vehicle is but we are on our second toy hauler going from a 17 ft Vortex to our current one a K2 by Komfort. Our K2 was sold as a 21 but the actual body is 22'7''. We use it to haul our 800 Outlander or our Polaris RZR. When considering toy haulers NEVER use the dry weight but instead look inside for the max weight, which will be far closer than you think after a couple of seasons with your ''stuff'' and water if you dry camp. I would strongly encourage you to make sure the unit has more capacity for tires and axles with 5,000lbs axles and tires minimum. For longer trailers, say above 25 ft I would want 6k axles and 16 inch tires. I would also recommend a fuel station. Not all THs have them and they do add weight, but it sure is handier than packing a bunch of 5 gallon cans. Toy haulers are much heavier for their size than travel trailers and you should expect 12-15% of that weight on the tongue. I personally would not try to pull one with a half ton and diesel goes up the hills much better IMO. I could go on but this gives a few things to think about.
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GT Roach
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02/03/13 05:26pm |
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RE: What Toy Hauler?
WOW, that's quite a spec list. I think first off you will have a hard time finding a Aluminum framed unit and if you do you're going to go into sticker shock. We've owned two small bumper pull THs and with both (17 & 21ft) the tongue weight was 1,000 and 1,150lbs respectively. Tongue weights on Toy haulers are always higher than TTs for a given length. Both of ours were wood framed and have held up quite well with proper care. After living with them we've come to the conclusion because we ride ATVs we wouldn't get one without at least a 15 gallon fueling station. With your want list I can't imagine you getting one with less than a 9k gross. And by the way, gross weight is the ONLY weight that means anything. Dry weight is lower than the weight it leaves the factory because the batteries and fuel tanks (propane) are not used in that figure. And everybody thinks they won't carry anywhere near gross but find out if they weigh their rig, as they all should, that after a couple of seasons they are very close if not exceeding it. I noticed you made no mention of axle and tire sizes and small toy haulers will often have 3,500lb axles where I would never use less than 5k.If I were you I would start looking around at RV shows and asking questions about specs and don't count on salesmen always telling the truth either. I would guess, and if I'm wrong I apologize, that you have sat down making a wish list without seeing what's available. Regardless let us know what you've found that fits your requirements.
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GT Roach
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12/30/12 12:54pm |
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RE: Stolen battery
How about a heavy hing welded on one tongue rail with a stout piece of flat bar crossing the battery tops that would allow servicing the batteries but have a good hasp and heavy padlock on the other side? Simple yet cheap.
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GT Roach
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12/18/12 01:07pm |
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