So it comes down to a lifestyle. Man that bytes lol
Not to me. We can leave town on Friday afternoon and in 2-3 hours have the hauler set up by a creek in the mountains. Maybe go for an evening ride. Maybe pop a cold one, get a fire going and enjoy the stars when they come out. Ride the toys as much as we want for the weekend. Go home on Sun. Repeat.
Or we could set in a hotel room, bored to tears trying to find something worth watching on the tube, then trailer the toys on up to ride during the day. Not for me, I'd just as soon stay home.
In laws wanted it more than the wife did. She wants a new layout. :)
Thank goodness Mav that my wife doesn't go to the RV shows with me, she'd probably want a new unit, the last show she went to you was with her brother and I too find him one and we ended up with the Recon.
Guess I'm lucky. Even when we go look at new rigs the wife just wants to keep the 302TE.
We have a 2009 Fuzion 302 also made by Fleetwood. While I'm not going to defend the workmanship, as it isn't great, we have had no real problems. It runs a lot of forest service gravel roads but at a pace that is reasonable.
I think much of it comes down to the luck of the draw. Some units are just put together better than the next one. I have actually been surprised how well ours has stayed together. When I do work on it the way it is put together makes me glad I don't ride in it.
Obviously the simple answer here is another slide in truck camper, or taking a pop up off it's trailer frame, and adding it to my flatbed, but as I have a 1/2 ton truck I'm concerned that will result in too much tongue weight that I won't be able to compensate for enough with positioning of the Scout further back on the trailer.
Be careful not to have too little tongue weight either. That can result in a really scary towing experience when the trailer is trying to lift the back end of the pickup. If the Scout winds up too far back it will really pull the weight off the tongue.
I'm thinking of purchasing a 5th wheel toy hauler. Totally new at this. Probably Road Warrior 305 or Fuzion 322. For RW 305 GVWR 15,500; dry weight 11,186; hitch weight 2467.
I know these questions have been asked a lot, but it's all a bit overwhelming. I would choose a tow vehicle to fit the trailer. Would lean toward Ford and would like to avoid dually. Need crew cab for family.
4x2 F250 diesel rating 16,100 for 5th wheel towing. This appears to only come with 3.31 axle ratio. Why so high an axle ratio? Is this OK?
4x4 F250 diesel rating 15,200. Can get axle ratio only down to 3.55. And payload drops from 3700 for 4x2 to 3300 for 4x4.
So 4x4 barely adequate in terms of 5th wheel towing rating. And for payload, do I consider weight of hitch+people+fuel? 4x4 specs again marginally adequate (3200 lbs). But axle ratio on 4x2 seems so high.
Thanks for any help. I really appreciate it.
You are fine to pull this with a 3/4ton as you are well within the Manufactures set limits. Either truck is not barely adequate, they are very adequate. Ford SRW 3/4 ton and 1 ton both have the same rear axles (front and back and the same brakes). Only teh dually has a larger axle. If you like buying diesel get a F450 as they love fuel pumps. Only benefit you will gain going to a dually is a little better stability with the extra two wheels.
Your only limiting factor is wieght rating on tires. Not your axle.
My suggestion with Ford though as they love to void warranty. Make sure you use their Hitch and Over Load Air Bags. You will need the Air Bags. Keep the truck sitting level will ensure proper weight between the steer axle and drive axle.
Also keep in mind and what most people do not understand. The pin weight is given at the dry weight of the trailer. So the more weight you add behind the axles this reduces the pin weight. Like a see-saw so to speak. But dont always count on that as you may take a trip without the toys int eh hauler. But it is something to think about.
But Ford uses high Pinion gearing because they are reducing the gearing in teh transmission. Not because they are awesome as they are ok, just a marketing ploy really.
6.6 D-Max walked the 6.7 PSD in a 10klb towing competition last year in CO. The driving was done by one person and he was a ex-ford light duty engineer.
What is the max weight rating of the tires on a STW 1 ton? Do they support the 7k rear axle rating?