If you own a 347 or 357, please let me know how you like it. Also, what -- if any -- toys do you put in the garage.
We have been looking at very high end toy haulers, but when it comes right down to it I would like a unit that is affordable, roomy enough inside (in the main living room/kitchen), is short enough for state parks, has a fireplace, washer/dryer hookups, a residential feel and can haul a four seater golf cart. The Mountaineer seems to fit the bill.
Unfortunately they have discontinued the 357THT. I hear they are upgrading the toy hauler enough to warrant a new model number. I'm afraid they'll enclose the shower & sink with the toilet for a fully enclosed bath, which would give the bedroom a closed in feeling.
We went to compare the 355 and Fuzion 342 today (nearly identical floor plans). I liked everything about the 355 better except the kitchen seemed cramped. I also liked the lower price and shorter length on the 342 better.
I am thoroughly confused.
Great tip, richfaa. Thanks!
et2, my mom always said "hindsight is 20/20." I haven't posted here in probably years till recently. I'm used to other discussion boards that are (opening another can of worms here) dominated by women. Women are interested in hearing the details.
Just sayin' men can sure be opinionated about how and where other people spend their money.
****Ducks and runs for cover**** :)
Exactly, pronstar. I was astonished how quickly my questions about getting a 40(ish) foot fifth wheel into campgrounds and general maneuverability got hijacked!
And yes, I was talking about getting an electric golf cart of my very own to use around Fort Wilderness. The Premium sites are 60 feet long and up. We always book a premium site, and I had no question in my mind about the ability to get into a premium site at the Fort. We've seen plenty of massive toy haulers there throughout the years.
Well, as of right now we're looking seriously at the Keystone Fuzion 342. Unloaded weight 12,740. Ccc 3840. We are also looking at upgrading my husband's current (and for the past 9 years) daily driver, which is is Chevy 3500 DUALLY to a Ford F350 deisel dually. This is no more cumbersome or clumsy than what he's been driving to and from work for the past nine years.
As I said, it's all what you're used to.
HE wants a new truck.
Mama wants a new RV.
So could you guys please stick to answering my original question? Appreciate everyone who did :)
You guys are so funny. Yes, the golf cart is an excuse for getting a toy hauler. What's right for one family isn't necessarily right for another. This is my fun thing. Do I need it? Certainly not. No one needs a pleasure vehicle. But the toy hauler and the golf cart are what I am putting above going out to movies, skiing, boating, or a bunch of other things I don't do. Why try to talk me out of it? Nine years of going to DisneyWorld and renting a golf cart is enough time that I know this is what I want, frivolous that it may be. And I am fortunate enough to have a loving husband who sees the pleasure it will bring me and the fun we will have.
And my husband has been driving his one ton, crew cab, long bed dually as a daily driver for years. No problem. It's all a matter of what you're used to.
Sorry, but I would rent the golf cart at Disney-if that is 'mostly' the reason to get a 40 ft. trailer.
I know that's the best way to go, for someone who uses the cart only for Disney, but we visit Disney once a year for 1 - 2 weeks at a time and always rent a cart. I just really want my own, unique cart. Nothing new or fancy, but mine. We could also use the cart at some other RV resorts.
We'd also use the garage as a room for my teenage kids, and their friends. So not a total waste to get a toy hauler.
We are looking to move up to a Toy Hauler, mostly because I really want to have my own golf cart at Disney. (I know, not the best reason, lol.)
It seems that the Toy Haulers hover around 40 Feet in size. My husband wanted to know if that would preclude us from our favorite camping sites. We love state parks, but here in Georgia you can't book a specific site, so, yeah. We like the Corps of Engineer parks, and there ARE sites that can accommodate 40 feet in our favorite spots.
What do you all do who have big fivers? Where do you camp? Have you had problems just with maneuvering in campgrounds or simply maneuvering in general? Do any of you regret moving up to a 40 foot (or more) rig?
Any insight is helpful!
In our current rig, we have a walk-through bath. It doesn't bother us because usually it's just the four of us (mom, dad & kids) and we close the door to the bedroom when showering and everyone knows not to come in till the showerer is finished. On the odd times that we've had others with us, we explain to them about the shower and closed door, and we haven't had any problems.
So this really isn't an issue for us :)
I'm leaning toward the Mountaineer. It's just so similar to what we have. Just switch out the Garage for a four foot shorter bunkhouse and it would be nearly the same 5th wheel. I was kind of looking to get somthing different, but I guss it kind of comes under the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school of though, huh?
That's a good point you've got about Keystone dealerships being everywhere. We've got three Camping Worlds not too far from us, and I beleive they all sell/service Keystone.
Here's the unit that seems to mostly fit the bill for us: http://www.keystonerv.com/mountaineer/models/357tht/model-mobile
I'm just not too sure about the quality of Keystone. I'm also hoping to hang on to our next unit for at least 10 years, so quality is important. Our current 5th wheel has held up extremely well for 9 years. Virtually no problems other than usual wear and tear, and a minimum wear at that.
As for opinions, we hate our Cyclone. One breakdown after another. Just my .02.
Interesting. I spoke with a salesperson recently who said they used to carry Heartland but chose to drop the line. Heartland makes Cyyclone, don't they?
As for price, the lower the better. Except not "you get what you pay for" low :)
I forgot about KZ. I'll have to look again at what they've got.
I found one that is a low-end unit that has most of what we want. What does everyone think of Keystone Mountaineers?
The choices are overwhelming... And not enough! Here's what we want:
Under 40 ft.
10' garage is fine (we hope to get an electric golf cart to use at Disney)
We have two teens (boy & girl) who will need to sleep separately in it.
Hopefully the teens will not be coming with us when we retire in a few years.
I want a fireplace.
Husband wants 4-door fridge/freezer. He also wants a headboard that does not tilt forward and night tables on both sides of bed. (picky man)
We don't care whether there's a loft, but there's got to be room for storing the kids' clothes, sneakers, sheets, towels, pillows, etc.
QUALITY CONSTRUCTION. Doesn't have to be all high-end upgrades, but does have to be built to last.
We've looked at Voltage, Cyclone and Fuzion in person and I've looked at Jayco's Seismic online.
What do you think? Any suggestions?