Wonder why ford decided to undermine the sales of its best sales engine? Doesn't sound like a very good use of stock holders dollars.
If you mean the 3.5 ?
They need it for more then the F150 ,it goes in many vehicles and is supply constrained,the 2.7 will free up and allow more flex in production planning.
They aint stupid
The Eco-diesel is also "supply constrained" and only opens up for ordering at dealers every 6-12 weeks and then closes in two days! We can't build anywhere near enough for the demand.
As for the 30mpg cliams from real owners, yes all of them are running 3:55 gears and all but one are 4X4 trucks. The guys with the 3:92 gears are running 29mpg with a very few hitting the 30+ mark now and then. The problem Ford has is when in the hands of the end user, their EB engines do not hit anywhere near Fords numbers! Not close, most owners can't keep their right foot off the floorboard. You can't have your cake and eat it too, well not in a Ford or GM that is.
Me, I had my fill of Fords in the 90's and switched to CDJR and this was long before I worked for them. I can honestly say with the 14+ new Chrysler vehicles I have owned I only had one that was a PIMA. However every single Ford I owned, spent more time in a dealerships service department that after five Ford vehicles I was done.
Buy whatever you want it is your money, but some of you guys are just haters and should stop making these BS posts under the jest of "I'd love a good debate here" it only makes you look sad.
BTW this part of your post shows it all Best to start out by telling me how biased I am. Them tell me how Ford sucks, and I'm wrong. Or toss in some FACTS, not ad homonym and anecdotes. How are you posting facts, the truck is not even on the road yet! Wasn't it you that said until the ED was out on the road with "real world fuel numbers" it's just BS?
Give it up dude, your only looking silly.
Well I am VERY thankful that I have a good paying job, unlike most. But that would kinda be my point, if I'm paying $53,000 for a truck (I'm not BTW E-price is $43,000 something) I want the truck the way I ordered it! I ordered the Outdoorsman with a bench seat, then they come along and changed it to bucket seats.
So then I order a Laramie because it comes standard with the premium sound system and you can get it with the bench seat. It also will come in at the $53,000 mark because I did not order the air suspension or spray in bedliner. But it seems the Laramie was damaged in the paint department and it was scraped. Now it needs to be remade and I don't feel like waiting until who knows when for that to happen.
So when the Outdoorsman makes it to the dealership I will take it out for a day and see if I can live with the bucket seats. If I can't I will keep driving the Jeep my dealer gave me after my 2500 sold.
So I have to ask Fast Mopar, if you were paying $53,000 or even $43,000 for a new car would you settle for something you did not order? I bet not.
Well still no idea when the Laramie will show up at the dealership but the Outdoorsman should be there soon. I can now see the Window Sticker so it may be here this week. I had a call from the dealer that I missed so I'm going to call him this morning to find out what's up.
As much as I hate the bucket seats I just might have to live with them.
Hi all...time to open another can of worms...we r going to purchase a 2015 2500 denali duramax crew...just don't see the need for 4wd...how abt some non male ego driven opinions on the subject. ..thx...bo
I'm going the opposite way myself. Having had a 2WD diesel and only being stuck two times in ten years you would think I would stay with 2WD. Nope, I'm a betting man and I bet we are in for ten years of snow and lots of it! Growing up in the late 60's and early 70's I remember having to shovel the driveway (us three kids) and we used to get lots of snow. The mid to late 70's it tapered off. Now I think we are in back in the snow cycle once again.
So my new 2015 Ram on order will be 4WD and I hope I have to use it all the time!
Do yourself a favor and buy the OEM mirrors if not new then from a wreaking yard! Having bought after market mirrors that came from China I sent them back and ordered the from the dealer!
There are some aftermarket towing mirrors made in Canada. They make most of the mirrors for the big three. Look on Ebay and make sure that in the description it says made in Canada. With all that said I went to Ebay and could not find one OME mirror or OEM mirror.
The issue I had with the aftermarket mirrors was the mirror itself would flex distorting the image. I could fix this by quickly moving the mirror back in the opposite direction to flatten the mirror back out. The motors were also very loud compared the the factory mirrors. They were sent back for a full refund + all shipping. I would make sure whoever you buy from will pay the return shipping if you are not satisfied. I bought from 1A Auto and they let me return the mirrors without any hassle at all!
If you do buy them and they have the turn lamps that need wired up make sure to install the mirrors, put the door panels back on and test the mirrors BEFORE you do any extra wiring! This includes driving the truck to make sure the mirrors don't bounce around driving at highway speeds. Drive with them pulled out like you would towing. If your happy with them you can remove the door panel and finish the wiring. This helps both you and the supplier. You because if you don't like them you save the time of having to unwire them. The supplier because he does not have to return them to the manufacture or pay for a new wiring kit. In the end both of you win.
It isn't just 50 year old wheels. Your brand loyalty is blinding you. Why must you be so defensive of a product if it is so good?
I will give you another non ford example.
From the link:
'Bedford Fire Department's Wagon 1 operating on a vehicle fire on the Martin Luther King Byway. 1:10 into the video you will see what happens when water hits magnesium around the transfer case of the Jeep Liberty.'
A second non Ford example
Buddylam not sure why you are so up set, they are only lowly civil servants, their replaceable. It's not like they are Race Car Drivers, you know someone to be looked you to and idealized for the Gods they are. :R
So Turtle are you ready to suit up and stand with in one foot of a burning vehicle wondering how much magnesium is in it and how violent the reaction is going to be. These men and women risk life and limb to protect and serve for a meager wage. What benefit do race car drivers contribute to society?
Spoon apparently you do not understand how tax abatements work. Toyota pays NO TAX on their profits, building, equipment and most get no interest loans. Go do some research on tax abatements here this will get you started.
The startling factor, revealed in a New York Times investigation, is just how friendly: At about $19 billion a year, Texas doles out more corporate incentives than any other state.
That amounts to 51 cents per dollar of the state's budget — the same budget lawmakers hacked to pieces last year, including $5.4 billion in cuts to public education. The New York Times article notes this “fundamental trade-off” and wonders “who benefits more, the businesses or the people of Texas.”
Yep sure would love to live in Texas....if I were a wealthy businessman that is.
Here is how GM treated the good state of Mich.
For years, mayors and governors anxious about local jobs had agreed to G.M.’s demands for cash rewards, free buildings, worker training and lucrative tax breaks. As late as 2007, the company was telling local officials that these sorts of incentives would “further G.M.’s strong relationship” with them and be a “win/win situation,” according to town council notes from one Michigan community.
LINK to the rest of the story
Think Toyota will treat Texas any different? Think again!
Mike as others have said change the shocks, they should be changed every 50,000 miles! Did the truck ride fine new? If so pick up a good set of shocks, Bilstein, Rancho or Monroe all have very good shocks. The Blistens are an option on many GM trucks so I would go with them. Also lowering tire pressure when not towing will help a lot.
No they have never been bailed it out, it has never been bankrupt
Like Ford they asked for a loan to ride out the 2009 Crisishttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-03-03/japan-asked-to-bail-out-toyota/1607850
WOW really? So if it's Chrysler and GM it's a bailout, but if it's anyone else it's called a freaking loan?
Let me make this clear, Chrysler and GM did not want to go through Bankruptcy, it was three Congressman that demanded they go through a Government MANDATED bankruptcy before they would allow them to get the Government loans. It should be noted that Canada was not on board with this and did not make it a requirement to get loans from them!
Spoon, our Government collects money from it's citizens and private businesses in the form of taxes. Then they turn around and give businesses tax breaks to build plants here in the USA.
So lets say the Feds give company XYZ $150,000,000.00 in tax incentives and the State in which the plant is being built gives them another say $75,000,000.00 and the Local Government gives them say $150,000.00 that makes $225,150,000.00. Every penny of that will have to be made up by someone right?
So say you do not live in the state that the plant is located. You will only be on the hook for your share of the $150,000,000.00. But if your in the same state you also have your shear of the $75,000,000.00 from the state and if your in the city/county you get to help make up the whole $225,150,000.00.
So no matter what, you (we) and I are paying for their plant to be built and that $H%T is not right!
They got 40 million in tax breaks when they moved their Headquarters to Texas and in 2003 - Texas is providing Toyota with $133 million in incentives. You might want to look into how much money our Gov gives to import companies. But Americans will cry like little babies about American car companies get a LOAN and @ 13.8% from our Gov.
Love my MADE IN USA Tundra =). No US tax dollars propping up Toyota Motor Corp either.
Nope but their own Country sure as hell pumped money into them to keep them afloat. BTW care to post how much money the taxpayers gave in local, state and federal monies to build that plant and keep giving Toyota!.
Stop beating the "they didn't take a hand out" drum, they did and so did EVERY OTHER CAR MANUFACTURE ON THE PLANET! Get over it, the bankers are the ones that screwed this Country not the UAW workers!
Here is what comes up when you Google "military grade, aluminum-alloy" CLICK ME---->military grade, aluminum-alloy
Aluminium alloy 7075 is an aluminium alloy, with zinc as the primary alloying element. It is strong, with a strength comparable to many steels, and has good fatigue strength and average machinability, but has less resistance to corrosion than many other Al alloys (oh snap, wounder how that's going to work out for the customer. You had better be on top of ANY chips or deep scratches!) . Its relatively high cost limits its use to applications where cheaper alloys are not suitable.
7075 aluminum alloy's composition roughly includes 5.6–6.1% zinc, 2.1–2.5% magnesium, 1.2–1.6% copper, and less than half a percent of silicon, iron, manganese, titanium, chromium, and other metals. It is produced in many tempers, some of which are 7075-0, 7075-T6, 7075-T651.
I did pay attention Tory :R
Other then some clown form Ford saying "military grade" no where else can you find that anywhere. As others has said, WTF is the mill spec for "military grade aluminum". Care to find that in any of Ford's infomercials there Troy.
Funny they put a Rhino Liner on that bed, the only reason it held up as well as it did. Makes a better Rhino Liner commercial than a Ford commercial IMO. But than the Sheep won't get that and will only say OOOHHHH Shiny! LMAO
Again not meaning to sound disrespectful to bedlem, just in my humble opinion the set up looks a tad but unsafe. But the whole in-bed camper scars the poop out of me! Looks top heavy and ready to topple over in any wind gust. But with dual rear wheels it probably drives just fine.
Another question for you TC guys. Why the huge gap between the cab of the truck and the camper? I see some that are almost touching the cab and then others like bedlam's with a larger gap.
I just was questioning the spring hold downs. Having drove big trucks and having to secure loads it just looks a little weak to me.
actually those aren't "spring hold downs", the are chains with turn buckles , as you know driving big trucks you would have used either ratchet straps or chain boomers... the later with the old style "lever boomer" which are outlawed in these parts, the new boomers are the "ratchet" style.
His words not mine The friction of the pad material between camper and truck keeps it in place just fine. Spring loaded tie downs at the same tension on each corner keeps the camper from shifting due to bumps or vibration.
The pick up box will and does keep the camper from just sliding left or right, that whole set up just does not look safe to me. I would not like to see the end result of any hard emergency avoidance maneuvers with that set up.
I do understand and have seen some setups just not up close and personal. Can say i have never lost a load and the only load I had shift was a load of tires and wheels loaded and the trailer closed and sealed by the company I picked the load up from. Got to Keystone RV and when they opened the back doors some of the tire/wheels came tumbling out the back door! Fun times.....not. More paper then I wanted to do.
That has been the way truck campers have been tied down for years. There would be square tubing attached to the underside of the frame at the front of the box and extend pass each side of the box and the turn buckles attached to the tubing/camper. At the back the turn buckles were attached to the rear bumper at each corner or another piece of tubing was installed. In some cases tie downs were installed in the "stake pockets" - which I and many others would agree is about as safe as no tie-downs at all.
I think you get the picture now? :W
while on the subject, in my MTCs (mobile treatment centers - first-aid) we are only required to bolt(4 bolts) the camper-ette to floor of the box and install a internal roll cage... roll cage yes, but just bolt it to the floor and not the frame.... lol.