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RE: A tale of woe.

The RV isn't the problem.We like it.The problem has been being misled every step of the way from when it would come in to the expired gift certificates,to the price, to the model being changed without us being notified.As a long time Camping World/Good Sam Life Member,I was very disapointed by the way the whole thing transpired.I would have hoped at the very least CW would have said we will send you new gift certificates,but we didn't even get that.Not much we can do now. I just needed to rant.
RGar974417 10/14/14 07:46pm General RVing Issues
RE: RV park in GA

High Falls State Park is about 40 miles south of Atlanta and just a few miles off the interstate.There are 2 campgrounds but the Riverside Campground is much better for large rigs.They have a choice of back ins of pull throughs. Water and electric and nice bath houses.
RGar974417 10/13/14 03:38pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: A tale of woe.

NJRVer, the dealership has been around for years,but it recently became affiliated with CW.
RGar974417 10/13/14 03:34pm General RVing Issues
RE: Manslaughter charges for improper towing equipment.

I'm all for seeing the rules enforced. Yes,but they should enforce them before someone is killed.I see improperly towed vehicles all the time.I don't think most cops know what they are looking at when it comes to trailer hookups.
RGar974417 10/13/14 03:31pm General RVing Issues
RE: A tale of woe.

Sorry, but it seems like they saw you coming a mile away. Buyers need to do their due diligence. A salesman and company is out to make as much money as possible. A buyer should be looking to get the best deal possible. The OP should have known if he was getting a fair price or not. If the trailer costs the dealer $27K, he should have known that a $24K price is absurd. If EVERYONE is selling that model for $28.5K and you get a quote for $24K... something is up. If the OP doesn't have a signed sales contract, he is promised NOTHING. All the emails in the world don't mean a thing. If the OP got strong armed into paying too much, or more than he wanted to, that is on him. It seems to me that in the 6 weeks between the promised date of delivery and the actual date of delivery he probably could have found another dealer that sold the same trailer. It seems to me that I would know my floorplan in and out as well. Especially if I had to wait 6 weeks after ordering it. I hate to sound like a meanie pants... but come on man, you gotta do your due diligence or expect to get spanked. How about getting your facts straight. We got a price on a Keystone Cougar 24wrks. I had checked the internet for prices and the lowest prices I saw were about the same price as we were quoted. As I stated,apparently Keystone stopped making the 24wrks for 2015 and we were never told that. When we got there,the floor plan looked very similar to the one we ordered.There were a few changes but we thought they were due to it being a 2015 model.The sticker on the trailer listed it as a 24wrks and on one of the papers we signed it said the same thing.It was only when we got home,and I went on Keystones' website was when I noticed they didn't show the one we ordered any more. That was when I looked through the paper worked and another paper showed a different model.Apparently,Keystone changed their models on their website sometime after we ordered our unit. And that may have been one reason the price was higher.Plus,the salesman said he figured $5,000 on a trade which we told him right off the bat there was no trade.He claimed he sent us an attachment with this on but we never got any attachment.And don't you think if he could have produced proof that we received that paper work that they would have offered to give it to us at their cost????????????? Then look at how I was misled as to when the trailer would arrive,how it was never scheduled to ship and then the price and the model change????????????????And one more thing. E-mails can be introduced in court as proof so when you say e-mails mean nothing,you're wrong again.
RGar974417 10/12/14 08:00am General RVing Issues
RE: Trip Report: The Perfect Family Trip!

Excellent photo's and report.It must have been really tight with the 4 of yo in such a small camper.When our kids were young we often took my 2 nieces along in a pop up so we know what that's like.
RGar974417 10/11/14 08:07am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: A tale of woe.

Did you ever consider walking away? I would have got up and demanded my deposit back plain and simple. If they refused I would have taken the issue to the presiding motor vehicle administration or small claims court. I would not have been nice about it at all.Live and Learn I hear what you're saying. It's easy to say what you would do, but until you are in the OP's shoes, you don't really know what you would do. After all of the waiting, excitement, anxiety, etc., I believe I would have done the same as the OP, just to get it over with. I know what you wrote is probably the best thing to do, but I don't think I could spend the time and trouble to do it all over again. It would be worth that couple thousand dollars to just get it done. Bruce,you're right.We waited so long and were without a camper all summer,we were so anxious to get it. Plus, we do like the unit.It's just the whole thing was very frustrating. Bruce
RGar974417 10/11/14 07:55am General RVing Issues
RE: A tale of woe.

So you never had a signed sales agreement, just an email???? That's correct.We never had a signed agreement.But I did keep e-mails. The salesman said in the beginning we my have to sign something but never got anything from them. We only met with him twice.When we ordered it and when we picked it up.
RGar974417 10/11/14 07:49am General RVing Issues
A tale of woe.

I posted twice about this before but the story gets more interesting. Back in June,we ordered a new Keystone Cougar 24wrks Trailer from Camping World in Harrisburg,Pa.We were quoted a price of $24,440.00 and sent them a check for 10% down. When we ordered it,we told the salesman we were hoping to have it by the end of August and he said that should be doable.A few weeks later,he said he got an offline date of September 5th, but that he was confident they could switch the date with another dealer slot so we could still have the trailer by the end of August. So the end of August comes and I e-mail him and he said it wasn't there,but the September 5th date was still good.So I e-mail him after September 5th and he said it's done and it's labeled a hot ship and would be there in a week.3 weeks go by and no trailer so I call the general manager.He said he'd get back to me the next day which was a Friday.Tuesday,he still hadn't called back so I call him again.He said he still didn't have an answer.He then called back the next day and said it was set up to ship and would be in September 29th. Apparently the salesman never set up the unit to ship.The earliest we could pick in up was October 6th.So we get there and even though they had it for a week,they didn't have it checked out.So we sit there an hour and they take us for a walk through.Then we go in to pay the balance and they say the balance is $29,000.00! We tell them we were quoted a price of $24,440.00 and produced the e-mail with the quote.They get the salesman and he said he figured in a trade in.We told him right off the bat that we sold our old one and there would be no trade.So he comes back in with a paper that shows the price with the trade which we had never seen.I tell him he never sent that to us and told him there was no trade when we ordered it. So then he goes to the manager and comes back and says,well here's what they paid for it $27,000 and we could have it for that.So we didn't feel we had any choice other than to walk away but we really wanted the trailer.So we paid that.They gave us 2 $25 gift certificates. While were driving home,my wife looked at them and they expired July 31st,2014!.When we did the walk through,we noticed there was a change in the floor plan but just figured they changed the floor plan because everything else looked the same.When we got home,we discovered that it wasn't the same model.It was 1 foot longer and 400 pounds heavier.Apparrently Keystone no longer made the trailer we ordered and sent this new model. When I looked at the paper work,on one paper it identified it as the model we ordered and on the other,it identified it as a different one. Camping World never notified us of the change! The good thing is we do like the trailer but are very frustrated by the way this all went down.
RGar974417 10/10/14 07:26pm General RVing Issues
RE: Camping In Williams AZ in December

We were in Williams at Circle Pines KOA in April.It was 32 degrees with 6" of snow.No problem.But we also stayed in Gallup, New Mexico where it was 15 degrees and snowing.They told us to disconnect hose over night and use water in tanks.No problems.Just keep heat on.In Gallup,my wife wakes up and says it's cold in here.One of the propane tanks ran out!Had to go out in the 15 degree weather and switch to the other tank.I told her next time it runs out it's her turn to change over.haha
RGar974417 10/07/14 05:56am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: pet fees?

PA state parks not only charge for pet sites, you MUST keep you pet within that area. You are not supposed to even walk your pet into the non-pet area. Seems like people without pets (read, dogs most times) don't like having to deal with barking, snooping, and pooping pets. Really weird! First,we camp alot at Pa state parks and wasn't aware about paying more for pet sites.And it depends on the park where you can walk it.Some campgrounds like Locust Lake allow you to walk your dog on the paved trail around the lake.The only restriction is don't take dog into non pet loops.At Pine Grove Furnace you can walk dog down road and walk dog through day area. In Va,they tack a fee onto your site charge.But we were told you don't pay fee when you make a reservation.Some parks hit you with the fee while others don't.Most COE and Forest Service Campgrounds do not charge extra for pets so we tend to prefer them.
RGar974417 10/07/14 05:48am General RVing Issues
RE: Good for kids 9 and 6 near York/Harrisburg/Gettysburg

Your kids would love Dutch Wonderland which is right next to Old Mill Stream Campground.You can walk to the park. We also like Pine Grove Furnace State Park.Nice campground with brand new bath houses.They have 2 lakes with swimming beaches with new snack bar and bathrooms.There is also some history as it was a former iron furnace.The park is also the half way point on the Appalachian Trail.Through hikers celebrate by eating a half gallon of ice cream from the camp store.
RGar974417 10/05/14 09:05am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Bay of Fundy

Stayed at Fundy back in the early 70's.Go on the nature walks and walk in the river after the tides go out.
RGar974417 10/05/14 08:55am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: KY, OH, IN or TN

You will severely limit yourself and miss out on a lot of good camping locations if you must have full hookups.Many state and federal parks only have electric or sometimes water and electric.COE ( Army Corps of Engineer) campgrounds have many lakeside campgrounds.As to seeing pictures of campsites,go to campgroundphotos.com. While they don't have all campgrounds,they do have some in each state that will show you individual campsite.Usually state and federal campgrounds have more privacy between sites while commercial campgrounds try to pack as many campers in as possible.
RGar974417 10/05/14 08:40am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Campgrounds northeast PA suggestions pls

Promised Land State Park Pickerel Point Campground very nice.
RGar974417 10/01/14 01:53pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Myrtle Beach during Christmas

Last year we stayed at Huntington Beach State Park over Christmas.The day we got there it was 80! But the rest of the week was in the low 60's.We enjoyed it.
RGar974417 09/29/14 04:23pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: North Carolina to Wyoming and Back

Thanks for the pictures.We prefer state and federal parks too.
RGar974417 09/28/14 10:33am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Frustration with CW

Manager got back to me and said the unit is coming from Oregon,not Indiana.The salesman told me it was finished on September 5th and it was a hot ship. A week later when I asked him when it would get here,he told me as soon as the truck driver gets here.The truth is,it was never scheduled for delivery.It was sitting on the lot all this time.I am now told it will be here October 29th.I should have talked to the manager sooner.
RGar974417 09/24/14 02:40pm General RVing Issues
RE: Frustration with CW

I'm the OP. Was told unit done September 5th and it was a "hot" ship.Called last Thursday to talk to the manager.He wasn't in but I left a message.He called me back at 6pm that night and said he would have an answer the next day.Guess what? Today's Monday and he still didn't call me back.Trailer was done over 3 weeks ago and I can't get an answer as to where it is or when it will get here.That's what is so frustrating.
RGar974417 09/22/14 10:24am General RVing Issues
Ricketts Glen State Park

We plan to go to Ricketts Glen State park if we ever get our trailer.But that's another story.There's a note saying heavey trailers should come in from the north on 487.But we are coming from the south and would have to go way out of our way to come from the north.We will be pulling a 26ft TT,weighing about 4500 lbs.How bad is the hill coming in from the south.
RGar974417 09/19/14 04:55pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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