Strictly from an environmental and cost standpoint it does not make sense to purchase a diesel, hybrid, or electric vehicle right now relative to a comparable gas only vehicle. If it makes you feel better that is great. But no different than putting a big down payment on a leased vehicle to get a lower monthly payment.
Maybe in the US but does not sense anywhere else. A Gas vehicle is probably worse environmentally than a modern diese
Sorry, but the Chevy Volt is a very bad product (for GM), and built more for policitcal purposes than anything else. From everything I have read, there is ZERO profit margin in that vehicle.
That may change in 2016, or as technology eveolves, but my guess is right now GM doesn't really care if they sell more of them.
ALL electrics and hybrids are built for political reasons. If the tax incentives for manufacturers and consumers went away, production would cease after the current model year.
Jayco Australia, although unrelated to the US Company bought some of the Campers to sell here.
Jayco unveils $11,000 camper
Just months after releasing its first teardrop camper, Jayco has unveiled another cut-price model, an Australian-spec, US-built camper trailer at the Melbourne Leisurefest show.
With a ‘show’ price of just $10,990, the wind-out camper dubbed the J8 undercuts the current entry level, Australian-built Jayco four-berth camper, the Swift, by around $5000, but comes with fewer standard features.
The 3.7m long ‘Starcraft Sport’ model on display in Melbourne was based on a Jay Series Sport camper from the Jayco America range, and had been tweaked to comply with local gas and ADR laws including having its one-piece door (which slots inside the roof when travelling) on the ‘correct’ side.
It featured a powdercoated steel chassis with spring leaf beam axle suspension and 12in wheels and tyres.
Up front was fitted an ADR-compliant 50mm coupling, removable jockey wheel, 4kg gas bottle and a manual winder to raise the fibreglass roof and canvas side walls. Other standard features included wind-down corner stabilisers, LED external running lights, rear-mounted spare wheel and awning.
A battery is optional but the J8 camper does come with a very basic electrical system including 12V lights and a Setec transformer.
While retaining the dark wooden timber look typical of many American RVs, the camper’s interior had been freshened up with bright new Jayco Australia cloth upholstery on the four-person dinette seats.
The display model also featured a small 60 litre Dometic fridge, roof hatch, Dometic two gas burner cooktop with glass lid, and a stainless steel sink with old-style pump tap connected to a 35 litre water tank.
The two double beds down each end had what appeared to be solid foam mattresses rather than the plush, coil-spring mattresses now fitted as standard on Oz-built Jayco campers.
Like the tiny, $9990 J-Pod, the bare-boned, four berth American camper is designed to attract buyers on tight budgets into Jayco dealerships as well as those with smaller tow vehicles. With a Tare of 604kg, 82kg ball weight and 749kg ATM, the J8 camper doesn’t require electric brakes.
Jayco has brought in an initial batch of 40 campers, in what is believed to be the first American product offering by Jayco Australia in its 40 year history.
“This is a product that (Jayco chairman) Gerry (Ryan) brought in from our sister company at Jayco in the US, “ explained new Jayco Australia CEO Carl Bizon.
“He thought it was a good introductory product that could be appealing to people that have limited means that still want to experience caravanning.
“It gives us a price position at the bottom of the market that helps people if they can’t quite get to a Swan or a Flamingo or an Eagle (camper), they’ve now got something to get into.
“We’ve brought a pile of them in and if it’s a success we’ll do it again…”
Made a trip to town today. Saw this on the way home. No protection on the roof, it was flat in the area of contact. Out of State plates. I won't say what State. We just said Wow got to have a picture
He would be having a long chat with the Police here. No doubt he could not see out of the back of that car either
With less than 200 HP on tap and 7K on the tail things are going to get ugly when they take this thing to Co and tow up Ike. Snails are going to be in the passing lane and going past this thing.
I would love to take a poll of people here on RV.net and find out how many of them actually drive up that road. For all the nonsense I hear about that road, I would bet less than 5% of RVer's actually drive that thing. We never did and we went across the country when I was a kid.
Of those 5% that drive up that road, how many tow there with a regularity? Maybe 10% of them? For that miniscule population, perhaps this is a valid concern and something to think about. For the 99% of people that will never drive it or drive it less than once a year... does it really matter if you can drive super fast or if you are cruising along at 45 mph in the right lane with the OTR truck drivers and it takes another 15 minutes to get to the top?
Enough with the freakin Ike Guantlet already...
Similar very steep roads in Australia, without the outright elevation, but you go up as. much elevation. A Diesel Pickup would not slow that much at all, they are pretty amazing in that way
A modern clean diesel engine that utilizes DEF doesn't take the same fuel economy hit that the early emissions restricted diesels took. Look no further than the Big 3 diesels in the US HD market for proof of that. I think the 2.0 VW motor may take a bit of a hit with proper emissions in place, but I bet it will still get substantially better mileage than its gas counterpart.
VW was really stupid to try to pull this off, but they aren't the first automaker to cheat something.
VW is being penalised for being dishonest, not that it was really anything to do with diesel. It was blatantly dishonest, it is not an ignition switch or faulty brakes problem.
Difficult to get trust back. In European terms an own goal
We've used them on caravans in England and found it extremely convenient to be able to dump the tank without having to move the trailer. Would love to have such a setup in my TC. We seldom stay in formal campgrounds and finding a place to dump the tanks is always a pain and frequently expensive if you have to go to a private campground to do it. A cassette would nicely solve that-- I hate driving around thinking about where the heck am I going to dump that tank. Someday I will have to plumb in access to the septic system outside so I can dump at home, but right now it's always an issue.
All I know is when I was done dumping and rinsing, my bathroom looked like a bomb went off, not to mention stinking like a sick person with a slight hint of orange, and I had to clean the bathroom again.
This is not how it works for us. It is very clean, not much different from "normal" bathroom use. And if you empty the tank frequently and don't let it sit, it shouldn't smell too badly either.
Did you press the pressure relief button or whatever it would be called? It ensures that fresh air can enter the tank as you dump it.
Same as in Australia.Black tanks are VERY UNPOPULAR
I think it is a market issue. For whatever reason, RV manufacturers here in the U.S. have determined what they can sell and what they can't. I don't believe those high-end, well-built off-road trailers available in Australia would sell at levels here for a manufacturer to be profitable. I could be wrong, though.
I have never been to Australia, but the image in my mind from news, movies, documentaries, etc., is that they have MUCH more land available for boondocking than we have here. Again, I could be wrong. I'm definitely no expert.
All the market issues aside, those are some really nice, cool looking trailers! Their only problem is that the door is on the wrong side. ;)
It is a different market here.Off Road/ Dirt Road Caravans are booming and seeing Australia is the size of the Continental US, there is vast areas to boondock Most of the population lives near the Coastal areas
Well, in the US, if you take your "Trailer" off road, the warranty is automatically voided!
I still don't understand why the USA is so far behind the curve. Sigh. Because people buy them - they fly off the dealer lots.
Here they are built specifically for Off Road and you get 5yr Warranty minimum
Won't some US outfit copy those amazing Aussie caravans? I would pay a lot to have a comfortable off road trailer. Mine is OK after a lot of modifications, but it took a lot of effort to replicate the "off the shelf" units from down under. I still don't understand why the USA is so far behind the curve. Sigh.
Looking at your signature, yours is more the size of a CamperTrailer. People here are less worried about the price,but they want an easy towable Caravan, with all the comforts of home, looks good and has very good build quality
By the way why we do not refer to Caravans as Travel Trailers? A group of Caravans is a Convoy.
A Trailer to us is
Any info on what brand and type of tires used?
No Brand but thisCruisemaster XT independent suspension with shock absorbers
245/75R16 Off Road Tyres
More on Cruisemaster XT Suspension
Cruisemaster XT Suspension
AVIDA used to be Winnebago Australia has branched out into towables and winning awards.
This is the Australian Jayco Silverline, not a Lightweight model, but looks a lot like the New US Jayco
New US JaySmart
New JaySmart looks more like this Baily Unicorn S2