Just last week and this one we drove from Happy Jack down to Roosevelt Lake on 260/87/188, and then from there to Globe up to Show Low on 60. I would say 60 is easier, although the canyon is more demanding than anything on 87, for a few minutes. There are plenty of slow lanes, so you can go at a speed you are comfortable with. Let's put it this way, from Roosevelt Lake to Show Low I had the choice of going either way, and I chose 60. I think it is six of one, a half dozen of the other.
When on pc, I will comment on lack of float mode. In short, it doesn't matter for my use. Think about it.
Don't worry about the lack float. After the sun goes down, the charging stops anyway. In the AM, the charge cycle starts over.
Plus, during the day, the current will decrease to nothing. I have seen my turnigy read 0A late in the day. That is not going to hurt anything.
Right, thanks. That's what I was getting at. And at low amps the pulses are spread out quite a bit.
To clarify my comparison with my ebay PWM controller, it drops down to 13.8 in absorption when the MS would still be in the 14's. So it's not going to put as many watts in as the MS controller if time is short. I don't know about RJ's controller, obviously. I'm all for ebay bargains though.
Yesterday it was in absorb mode all day, but never got full. It was charging at 2.8a at the end, which is a fair bit more than the parasitic loads.
Voltage was 14.4. Morningstar bases its voltage on 14.4/77 degrees. I have to be in absorption mode to see it. The day before, it was in bulk mode all day, hence the lower voltage. Today it would finally get caught up, but we are moving on.
I also have an eBay pwm controller, same one as eco worthy sells. It drops to 13.8 when the sunsaver would be staying in the 14s. I'm on my phone, tired of typing. When on pc, I will comment on lack of float mode. In short, it doesn't matter for my use. Think about it.
Roy, I think you have it figured out. Run the genset early, to 80% if you have sun, and let the panels do the rest. Or to 90% if you don't have sun, like your normal procedure except earlier, and take what you can get in the way of top-off from the panels. I'm just beginning at this myself. It doesn't get any easier than sitting in the desert at 72 degrees and full sun all day.
We just spent 3 nights up at elevation in the pine trees around Prescott and Payson. No sun on our sites, so roof mounted panels would have done very little. But the portables would have been able to pick up some sun here and there. I didn't bother because we were on the move. Which illustrates the upside and downside of both types of setups.
BFL, yeah, I dunno. It was at or above 6.00A every time I checked other than the first and last hour or so. Resulting in 9+ hours, 54+Ah. The sky was cloudless. Must be this pure AZ sun. :) Oh, there is some pollution haze you can see when looking at the hills. Maybe that acts like cloud edge??
I only moved them several times because I could. :) But I think you are right that 3 moves would be just fine. That's how I did it back home in IL when I first tested the setup. Maybe 4 times, if horizons are low enough.
At 0930, it is at 5.84A at 14.52v. I am going to get the batts topped off today. Hooray!
YMorningstar Sunsaver PWM. It does not have a float mode. ... I ought to get past bulk pretty quickly!Does it have absorb?
Yes. It starts out as bulk, constant current. Then it goes to absorb, constant voltage. At our temps, that should be ~14.5, but the most I saw was 13.8. In the past it has held the 14+v when the battery is near full. So we'll see what today does.
Yesterday March 8 we had full sun here at Roosevelt Lake, AZ.
My two Group 27 batteries read 12.52v at the start of the day, measured at the batteries with the Turnigy WattMeter. I used it to collect the day's data.
9+ hours of charging = 54+ AH
Peak amps 6.92. Peak watts 92.x.
I moved the panels as needed. Probably 5 or 6 times. They are at a 45 degree tilt.
The panels specs (x2):
Module Type Pm(Wp)±5% Vmpp(V) Impp(A) Voc(V) Isc(A) Module size NET(kg)
MLS-A1-50 50W 18.0V 2.78A 22.3V 3.03A 590 X 665 X 35mm
23 X 26X 1.8 In 10LBS
Controller is a 2nd generation Morningstar Sunsaver PWM. It does not have a float mode. As far as I could tell, it was in bulk mode all day. This morning we start out with 12.71v at the batteries, so I ought to get past bulk pretty quickly!
All the roads in the Coconino Forest are closed till April. Well, we should have called first. It was not much out of our way, though.
Any suggestions as to which of the CGs are better and which worse? We are headed there tomorrow for a day or three. I do know to buy the Tonto Pass. I just realized tomorrow is Friday, lol. Will there be sites open?
We are looking for scenic and roomy. And avoiding rowdies, drunks, etc. I read something about Schoolhouse CG, but never see it mentioned. Any good?
And how is the dispersed camping? Same price as within the CGs?
This thread should help you out. But in a nutshell some versions of iPhoto are not compatible with Mavericks, you will need to upgrade.
Yeah, that's the problem. Thanks!
I'm okay if you want to close the thread now.
I am sitting in the national forest with marginal signal for Verizon 4G/LTE. Tried google searches but couldn't find my answer. I have a Macbook Air with Mavericks. Every time I try to open iPhoto, it launches the App Store instead, and tries to download a many-gigabyte iPhoto upgrade. I can't let that happen for obvious reasons. In System Preferences: App Store, I have unchecked Automatically Check For Updates. Can anyone tell he how to get iPhoto to launch?
PS: even when not connected to the internet, it behaves the same.
We sanitized it before filling. And we've used the WH every day for weeks. It was turned off during the smell episode though. But I do think it is somehow water related as suggested by several of you. Maybe a vent check valve, or P-trap. Today we drove quite a bit, and no smell. I am closing the book on it.
Humm... Your rig is only 6 weeks old?
I would guess instead of some appliance issue, you are smelling the outgassing Formaldehyde or some other manufacturing chemical from the new construction. Smells sorta like SO2 but not really. Sometimes what some people call the "new car" smell is just construction chemicals. Cloth, foam, paneling, laminate, etc will all outgas for a short time. When you get a chance, just open all the windows and vents and let the breeze blow thru. It will go away after a couple days.
Yeah, we had some smells at first. But we have been camping in it for 5 weeks. It came right off the assembly line to our dealer, and we left for this trip the next day. Had to escape winter before we couldn't get away. :) So anyway, that's not it. This smell came suddenly, yesterday. We shall see what today's travels bring.