Want to boon-dock around Greer, AZ. No structured CG's. Any suggestions for some good spots? Move over to the Apline area, also very high around 8000 ft. three or four lakes, lots of elks, I had 60 in my front yard a couple weeks back.You could also go home from there very easy and see more of Az. and some N.M.
A lot of area to use and a number of camping sites also, we have a summer home up there, in fact I might go up the week end to close it up for the season.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note on RingPlus (Sprint) 700min/700text/750MB-4G LTE - cost: $0.00 month. Two Apple iPhones on PagePlusCellular (Verizon) - cost: $7.00 month. Nokia Lumia 1020(WIN 8) on H20 Wireless (AT&T) - cost: $4.00 month. Needless to day, I don't use my smartphones that much. Mostly for cameras and apps. Sprint is primary and more than covers my needs. If no connection, then AT&T or Verizon.
When I had an AT&T Sony flip phone 10 years ago, I paid $50. month. How things have changed using MVNO.In 1992 I think it was a cell phone company contacted me about putting a very large tower on some land I owned on the small mountain in Phoenix. We worked out a deal and at the end I told them I want free phones and 30 year free service and calling. They gave me 20 years with a 10 year renew, in 2012 the twenty was up and Verizon have bought out a few company along the way, but wouldn't not renew our agreement. It wasn't worth hiring a lawyer and go down the road, so that is why I'm not real happy about staying with them now that I have to pay. It is a personal thing.
call and ask for a way to lower cost.
I have 2 phones AND a Verizon Tablet with a line .. for portable WiFi... with 8gb. and its under 150 a month.I not so worried about the price, they are are within reason. The coverage is the most important, service. price is last. Thank you for all the help
We have Verizon (my bill is around $150.00 for two phones) now and am thinking of trying another company. We travel a lot around the country both by RV and car and plane.
Who should I not look at, and who should I look at.
There'd be numerous codes, regulations, and standards that would have to be complied with if doing it fully permitted and inspected. Some of them are:
The NEC has specific requirements for RV parks. How much is the power utility co. going to charge for a connection? Electrical alone would eat up a big chunk of the $50K.
There's NFPA 1194 "Standard for Recreational Vehicle Parks and Campgrounds" that covers fire protection and a number of other things.
In Texas there's TCEQ (Texas Commission on Environmental Quality) which covers water supply, wastewater and storm water disposal, garbage disposal and outdoor burning. 15 or more sites can be considered as a public water supply. Texas TCEQ
There's no contingency fund to put towards any unforeseen costs? There could very well be a whole lot of them you never knew of or thought about.
Has there been any analysis of projected income versus operating costs? According to one source of info. I read, it takes 125 sites to break even.
Any savvy investor wouldn't go near it.Doesn't take anywhere near 125 sites to be profitable. Say you had a 40 site park and built it for $800,000. Operates for 8 months out of the year with a 60 percent occupany rate (not bad, but not exceptional either) At $40 a night, that would be revenues of $230,000. Figure operating costs of about 30 percent, you will have net income of about $160,000. That's a 20% return on your investment, not too bad. Even if you paid a manager couple $5,000 a month for those eight months, instead of running it yourself, you would have a return north of 15 percent. Can't get that on your savings account.
The trouble with the OPs situation is $50,000 is a far cry from $800,000 and building a park in the middle of nowhere won't ever generate $40 a night rates or 60 percent occupancies.
Could you break down the math a little more. Give us the break down on operating cost it you could please.
I love to read the profile we put up on the net.
Some remind me of there balance sheet.
I have a 5th, brown one, mine is white, I pull mine with a 1 ton, I have a dog, cat, bird, fish, goat, lion, deer, cow, pig,snake.
We have 22 grand kids, all girls, Hello
I spend more time reading them then anything else.
I've owned my 2012 Ram w/ Cummins since it had 24k miles on it in late 2013. Since then I've done all of the maintenance myself expect the EGR cleaning (dealer did that)
I replace my fuel filter / fuel water separator every 10k miles and drain it about once a month.
Do most of you have your fuel filters changed? I was talking to a group of Diesel truck owners over the weekend at a camp ground and none of the 8 of them ever heard of changing fuel filter, or draining the fuel water separator.Diesel's trouble never stops, all my friends are moving back to gas.
I have been watching class c's on craigslist for a while. Yesterday, I saw a 2006 with 157,000 miles for $7000.00. Curious if it had a bad motor or some other major issue, I sent a message through Craigslist wanting information about it. It is located in Chicago, about 2 hours form me. I have had no response to the email. Today I see a different picture of the same class c in Tampa Florida. Tonight I see the Same class c on Ebay in California for $22,000.00 with no reserve and no bids. Did the Craigslist ad some how scam me. Are they after my email address or are they baiting me for more personal information?
Hide or run which works the best for you.
No one with 40 ft. can go everywhere, have something you can take off the back and drive the rest. You will not be able to park that far back or hard to get to parks. Anyone can take a 43 ft. down a road that is easy. Many of the places we go with a 30ft. class B +rig. puts us at the parking limit, I see no one larger ever there.I still say over and over 90 per cent never leave a four lane rd, some take a good two lane, most don't do that. If they do, where are they when I'm there, hiding behind a tree. Yet there is many places I can't go because I don't have 4x4 or high off the ground. I have tore my skids off three times in three years.I put steal wheels under the rear and broke off 3 out of four of them now. And I'm 30 ft., 40 ft. and over are for the interstate group, and then they drive a toat from there. Some will say that they drove a 43 ft. 50 miles on a dirt road, yes but it is bumpy, but not real sharp turns or big deep dips.
First go to the city, town, county, who ever is in control.
See what the zoning is on the land.
If not zoned right, see how long and how much for (trying) to get what you need.
Go to flood control see what they say.
Get a survey.
You will need a Engineer for grading and drainage report.
Check with ele. co. for up front cost., Water company for supply. Sewer company for volume needed.Phone for up front cost.
So far you haven't started anything yet. Just cost.
At this point you have spend $25,000 to $100,000 and no building or roads, well, curbs, swiming pools, pool tables. Hello
If other are in it you will need a operating agreement. Lawyer, LAWYER, RUN FAST.
I was going to build one a couple times, had the land, plans, engineeing, cost of permitts ect. I seamed to me to put in a manager to run it and come out you need 200 units.
Now Im looking to build a park model one 22 acres water,ele,sewer on site. trying to see if I want to put the plug and build it.
Would sell the unit out right with the lot, I would have to carry the paper on them also.
I don't have that good of fealing about the up coming years for business.
The best "rig" for AZ in the summer is a house. I doubt that any other type of rig would be livable here.
Have spend nearly 55 years in Phoenix area. Find a nice large tree that will cover your south and west side, This will do more than and thing other then if you buy a large 82 per cent shade cloth from Home Depot and put it up over that which your going to park under and get shade on all sides. It is made in tan or green.Not that expense.
What tricks does anyone to keep a Rv cool in the summer, these past few days have been low 90s. I have basement are and run the generator to keep it going down the road. but it seems just cant keep up the hot days, 95 outside 85 inside. any thoughts
Trees, big trees.