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RE: Downsizing to B+
"Our priority is to have a unit that is easy to drive including in the city or high traffic areas and easy to maneuver so that one person can go alone if need be without having a "spotter" to help park. But also comfortable to sleep and enough storage for essentials such as golf clubs. And 2 big furry children. Also good quality RV so it doesn't spend most of the time in the repair shop."
This is the essence of a retiree's touring MH, and Born Free Motorcoach has been the standard-bearer for just such rigs for decades.
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burlmart
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05/19/13 05:13pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: What is a "B+"?
I am basically a trouble-maker! Thanks for the responses! Hope to meet all you "C - What-evers" as we start this new adventure.
You're not alone...and also many die-hard, 'we must fight with our B moderator/hero and defend our small better than everyone else's stuff' types from former years, have upgraded to B+ touring rigs and joined this C forum. More still left RV.net around the time the moderator was changed.
Roger planned to swap his B to an Airstream TT. I really am looking forward to see Roger's postings on RV.net about trailer camping. He is quite good at giving the details needed for more efficient rigging and so many other RV issues.
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burlmart
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05/19/13 03:53pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Recording OTA broadcasts
Happauge 950 USB tuner comes w/ software to record any OTA stuff with a great web based EPG (elec program guide)
Turns a PC into TIVO for under $100
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burlmart
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05/19/13 09:57am |
Technology Corner
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RE: What is a "B+"?
For the past 6-7 years I have followed the "B" forum on RV.Net. They were very stubborn about defining a "B" as the original van configuration. I attended the B7 Rally in Ohio 4 years ago and when a "Winnebago View" showed up it caused quite a stir. I pick up my Navion 24G this Tuesday. This model does not have a bed over the front cab. Would this be considered a B+ on this forum? I am enjoying reading this forum and hope to meet many of you "down the road"!
'Streamlined C' sounds pretty right for the B+ category.
According to most from the B forums, and several folks from this C forum who drank the same "if it has/had a van box behind the cab it's a B" kool-ade, this is DEFINITELY a B
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/burlmart/1987allegroastro.jpg~original width=600
It clearly is NOT a B camper van. It is a B+.
The kool-ade also requires that they call this a C
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/burlmart/roadtrek200.jpg width=600
I'd say its a B camper van, even tho' it is technically a B+.
Who'ya gonna listen to?
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burlmart
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05/19/13 09:20am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Downsizing to B+
You need one of the many twin bed models of Born Free - a long time builder of quality B+s.
The small and large built-for-2s:
http://www.bornfreemotorcoach.com/21_builtfor2_mini_class_c_rv
http://www.bornfreemotorcoach.com/23_builtfor2_class_c_rv
Remind yourself that while big baths are in some of their longer models, you get harder units to see from...the shorter units with rear doors are easy for a single driver to maneuver.
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burlmart
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05/19/13 08:10am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Looks like it is raining Class C Expedition Vehicles
ok
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burlmart
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05/17/13 01:15pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Looks like it is raining Class C Expedition Vehicles
ok
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burlmart
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05/17/13 08:25am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Can I Pick Your Brains About Smaller Class C's?
'05 Winnie B+
Same Year and floorplan as our 22', but it's higher quality, larger (23.5'), slide (no interference w/ drivers seat AFAIK), Ford, but alas, 2 separate makedowns, though they each give MORE than half a queen.
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burlmart
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05/14/13 12:53pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Can I Pick Your Brains About Smaller Class C's?
Lots of good reading here. I agree the big thing is driver and passenger comfort. If you can not recline the two seats you will find little comfort. They become your recliners in a small rig.
A kitchen that really works is a must usless you eat out every meal. Having a kitchen that is not in the middle of the rig is nice. We went with a rear kitchen.
Places to set. A dinette has little setting comfort after a short while so a need for some place else to set. We have a couch which I rebuilt for comfort. I sleep on the couch and its as nice as a bed at home. My wife sleeps on the dinette in comfort after we changed the foam to 7 inch. We do not mind making them up each evening as it only takes a couple min. We use a fleece blanket on the bottom. No need to tuck it in as it stays put. We use very light backpacking sleeping bags unzipped for comforters. Get cold zip them up. To store them we just stuff them in a laundry bag. No folding or rolling just stuff. We keep them in the over head bunk area that we use for storage only.
Our bath fits us well and has a place in the shower for me to set. Some thing about being 75 years young..
We have lots of hanging storage and drawers. We have infact added a couple after finding some areas that could have them so made some.
We like our small rig because of where we like to go. A bigger rig would mean we would have to give up 60% of the back country we love so much.
And yep my wife lets me drive is from time to time.. :-)
I'm surprised someone from the Class B Camper Van Forum hasn't demanded your post be moved over there!
Small Cs and B+s are functionally Camper Vans for many of us...not too big like long Cs and A-class, not too small like B-class (though some of these are getting very long).
Ol Yeller says he wants bigger than B, but small enough for wife to be comfy driving, as she did not drive when towing the TT. In tight parking lots and narrow streets, a 22' B+ is great.
A 22' B+ with a makedown bigger than king bed, big chevy cab, no slide, full separate dry bath for perhaps $20-28k used seems the ticket to me. for the OP and wife. Martha has been our sole driver for 8 yrs and 40k miles.
Only mechanical deal was a faulty starter.
For that barrel chair, you could always put a swivel on the passenger seat.
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burlmart
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05/14/13 09:39am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: LTV Unity MB
Any quality builder will do this for you...Call LTV
What I mean is if you call LTV, they can probably hook you up with a customer near you.
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burlmart
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05/10/13 09:10am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: LTV Unity MB
Any quality builder will do this for you...Call LTV
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burlmart
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05/09/13 05:52pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Australian Winnebago Now Avida releases new Large C
Y'all are just lookin' at it from the wrong hemisphere.
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burlmart
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05/06/13 08:17am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: LTV Unity MB
LTV says B+
There are a few LTV B+ people here that might help, and they must have a users group somewhere else.
Wait a bit, but maybe also check for a small LTV owners' group at Yahoo or somewhere like that.
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burlmart
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04/29/13 04:44pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Lost wheel simulator: Anyone paint hub and lugnuts
thought it interesting
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burlmart
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04/29/13 05:58am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: B+ motorhomes
thought it was interesting
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burlmart
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04/23/13 04:03pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Frosty Hauler as a Residence?
Thought we'd fulltime w/ 4 50 lb dogs in our 22' B+ beginning in Nov '07. After a month of touring thru several c.g.s, being cold, toadless (but would drive MH to restaurants, etc), researching data on all possible places we thought would be better places to resettle...came back to BR and stayed at a municipal c.g. for a month (now had our car), and within a month found a new home.
We are homebodies, I guess, and the RV is a fine place to eat and sleep, but a dog needs a backdoor opening to a fenced yard, as do 4 dogs!
2 months in 30' MH w/ permanent bed - piece of cake. Ron's idea of screen porch may be good for the dog. Not sure about storage trailer.
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burlmart
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04/23/13 05:40am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: B+ motorhomes
thought it was interesting
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burlmart
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04/22/13 06:14am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: B+ motorhomes
Burlmart, that is pretty much what I want to do. Did you make all of this from scratch? How about the door?
Snowing outside now in Minnesota on April 21. Can you believe it?
My friend from LA DOT is a fellow bridge engineer and is also handy in his workshop at home. I drew it and he built and installed it (even stained the door from memory to match other doors).
He is from Bayfield WI, his dad had owned some of the Apostle Islands -- He is up there 2 or 3 times a year in snow or otherwise.
Martha is a born and raised St. Paul Minnesotan - she knows snow, and has mixed feelings about the white stuff/
A few years after we married, I needed a PhD to keep teaching, so off we went to the U for 2.5 yrs to gain a little knowledge (but being married, I was not focused on the second thing Jimmy Buffet ascribes to collegiares. I saw and enjoyed your country very much, imcluding the snow. I once (1988, I think) walked to school from married housing on Como Ave two miles in an Alberta Clipper at - 45 degrees and froze my nose hair! Walked back, too (Uphill both ways, as I recall!)
Hope the Buffet vid brings a warm Gulf breeze up your way.
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burlmart
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04/22/13 04:57am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: B+ motorhomes
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/burlmart/HPIM0291.jpg width=500
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/burlmart/HPIM0288.jpg width=500
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/burlmart/HPIM0289.jpg width=500
Center shelf slides out
Remove two screws from each side, one at top, and the two that secure the latch and the inner trapezoidal box cones out
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burlmart
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04/20/13 06:22am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Freedom Elite 23U
We visited one at a park in Destin a few years back, and were quite impressed w/ what it offers.
Under $50k
Runs great
Roof don't leak
Appliances work fine
Great layout
If cheap fixtures and cushions are the only problem it presents, and if you are handy, set aside a few hundred dollars to replace on an as-need basis. If not handy, make a list of the little things you'd upgrade and find someone to fix 'em all for a reasonable fee.
You're getting a very good rig at a great price w/ a new warranty. Not sure, but maybe Thor is the builder.
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burlmart
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04/19/13 02:56am |
Class C Motorhomes
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