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RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

I got the more gear rollover noise straight from a tech at southbend. The noise from my single disc is hardly noticeable and above 1000 rpm it's non existent.
dragr1 01/01/18 10:01pm Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

I wasn't aware that the dual disc made the gear rollover noise worse. That definitely makes me rethink the dual disc. I also didn't realize that the posted HP/TQ numbers were at the rear wheels and the clutch you have would certainly be higher than I would ever tune to. I may just end up going the same route you did. Thank you very much for providing all of the info! I'll keep you posted, it's going to take me a while just to do the break in miles since it's not my daily driver , might be a month or so before I get to tow the camper with it
dragr1 01/01/18 06:22pm Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Definitely looking forward to having the truck I thought I bought! I was on the fence about the dual disc too but not knowing how long I may keep the truck lead me to the single disc Gotcha. My plan at this point is to keep my truck until death do us part so I think I will go to the dual disc. I may also do a mild towing tune after my warranty is up so some extra clamping force would be a bonus. I will ask Southbend for some recommendations. I talked to them several times, they were very helpful. The dual disc is a lot noisier than the single with the gear rollover noise according to them. The single disc is good for a lot more horsepower and torque than stock- the numbers on their site are for at the wheels power and not at the flywheel-I did ask that question. The single I got is rated for 425hp and 900 torque at the wheels . I'm gonna guess that stock the 6.7 probably puts down 300hp and 575 torque to the wheels-just a guess, I'm sure there are some dyno tests on the web. I only plan to tow with mine so even if I tune it one day the towing tune should stay within those numbers.
dragr1 01/01/18 04:14pm Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Definitely looking forward to having the truck I thought I bought! I was on the fence about the dual disc too but not knowing how long I may keep the truck lead me to the single disc
dragr1 12/31/17 04:32pm Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Southbend single disc clutch is in, truck drives so much better already. Now I'm looking into this to help backing the camper: BD 2wd Low kit I installed the BD 2 low kit a couple of years ago and it works great. MUCH easier on the clutch while backing the trailer. What differences have you noticed with your new clutch? My OE clutch is still fine at this point but I know that I too will be dealing with a replacement at some point and am interested in people's experiences with various styles. The clutch engagement has more feeling rather than just being a lazy noodle like the stock clutch. The engagement seems to be lower in the travel rather than at the top of the travel like stock. Pedal is a little stiffer but at least it feels like a clutch now. The gear shifter moves a lot less now-mine seemed to shake a lot more than it should of in gear. Of course my transmission was a quart low on fluid-thanks Ram-so we ending up adding 2 full quarts to it. I stayed with the stock fluid for now but will probably switch to the Mercedes recommended fluid at some point. I haven't put the break on miles on it yet but just driving around the truck feels stronger. I've long suspected that my clutch was faulty since day one and that some sensor knew that and was cutting power to compensate. So I'm eager to get the break in miles on it and hook up to the camper. Gear rollover noise isn't that bad and is only noticeable below 1000 rpm. My stock disc wasn't too bad but it had gotten hot as indicated by the blue hue ring on the stock pressure plate and flyweel.
dragr1 12/31/17 11:38am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Southbend single disc clutch is in, truck drives so much better already. Now I'm looking into this to help backing the camper: BD 2wd Low kit
dragr1 12/30/17 07:56pm Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Southbend G56-OK-HD on order
dragr1 12/15/17 12:53pm Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Talked to southbend again, looks like the single disc organic might be the way to go, the only shop in town that I would trust to install has never installed a dual disc, and after 2 conversations with southbend it sounds like the single disc is plenty for me anyway Yes, it will serve you well. I'd still consider an OFE or FE over an O clutch. It will be grabbier, but you'll get longer life out of it for minimal cost increase. You get used to the on/off nature of high perf clutch IMO and after that anything else feels mushy to me. Plus, if the trailer backing thing is holding you back (you get used to that too, jsut gotta be good at feathering the pedal and you dont want to make a habit of it anyway) your truck can have 2wd low range for a couple hundred for a 2low kit. I'm used to grabby clutches from my drag racing days but was concerned about that for backing the camper. Got a link for the 2low conversion?
dragr1 12/15/17 10:43am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Talked to southbend again, looks like the single disc organic might be the way to go, the only shop in town that I would trust to install has never installed a dual disc, and after 2 conversations with southbend it sounds like the single disc is plenty for me anyway
dragr1 12/15/17 10:03am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Some of the hills going into Cheaha are stupid steep!! My Chevy 6.0 with 4.10's was turning 4000 rpms in first gear and losing speed. Ended up at 20mph by the time I got to the top. I was pulling about 8000lbs. I think you are on the right track, replace with an after market clutch and stick with that Cummins. Yeah I have a biking app that shows grades on segments and a couple of those climbs are a ridiculous 20%! It's amazing every year to see the bicyclists participate in the Cheaha Challenge. They leave Jacksonville at 8:00 AM and ride to the top of Cheaha and back. I can't imagine riding up those hills. If your trailer is small enough you can take the back way up through Munford. It has a lot more curves but no long pulls. My trailer is a little long to come up from Munford, I'd be taking up the whole road in those curves. I've never done the Cheaha Challenge but we do a ride in February on mountain bikes that starts at Lake Howard in Sylacauga and we ride the skyway dirt roads all the way up to the upper campground, 57 miles and 7000 ft of climbing on mountain bikes!
dragr1 12/14/17 06:36pm Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Talked to valair and southbend, leaning towards valair dd quiet
dragr1 12/14/17 01:34pm Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Some of the hills going into Cheaha are stupid steep!! My Chevy 6.0 with 4.10's was turning 4000 rpms in first gear and losing speed. Ended up at 20mph by the time I got to the top. I was pulling about 8000lbs. I think you are on the right track, replace with an after market clutch and stick with that Cummins. Yeah I have a biking app that shows grades on segments and a couple of those climbs are a ridiculous 20%!
dragr1 12/14/17 11:31am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Well doesn't look like Ford and I are going to get together, they want too much difference between my trade and the new truck and it's just an optioned XL. Same with Dodge dealer on a new Cummins tradesman with automatic. Still haven't heard from Ram customer care, I'll give them one more try today and then ordering an aftermarket clutch. I've been looking at valair and south bend. Valair-dual disc for $1195 or quiet dual disc for $1395? How much harder is the pedal going to be with 3800lb pressure plate than stock? South bend-stage 2? Which one? I'm not interested in a really grabby racing type clutch, backing the camper with that would be a pain. I'll also probably not delete the truck, but might do an emissions friendly tune after warranty is out in 2 years.
dragr1 12/14/17 11:10am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

The 3:73 will be fine. Especially with the 6 speed transmission. It’s not like you can’t change them out later if you want too. You are still a few thousand lbs under the tow rating. 4:30 would be ideal. 3:73 is a good compromise for a truck doing double duty as a DD and a TV. Thanks! Jeremiah I should have posted that truck isn't my daily and only tows the camper, it only sees about 7000 miles a year
dragr1 12/14/17 08:36am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Well I am going to have do a little surmising here. :h I tow a 10K ish fifth wheel with a 6.2 CC SB that has a 4.30 diffy. I was not in as time crunch like you so waiting 8 weeks for the truck to get here was not s problem. This year I will be running 3 times thru the Smokies so will get some grunting time in like on the Saluda grade. Personally I think you will be running mostly 5th gear. That may not a bad thing though. I have found that the 6.2 needs a few R's to make any ponies and it starts to bog in 6th anywhere under 2000 R's. So I think you will get along OK with the 3.73 if you are not expecting to chug along in 6th and say cruise at 60 mph. Rpm's don't bother me, I don't run in 6th gear with them manual either unless I'm on the interstate on really flat ground, 60mph or under is always in 5th even with the Cummins
dragr1 12/14/17 07:33am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

I need to ask, is this your first diesel? That and have you towed with a manual before? With gas most people slip the clutch a bit when starting off, that isn’t necessary with a diesel, you can pretty much, as soon as the truck starts moving let it out and go! I tow a 32’ 5er at about 11,500# with a 5 speed manual with 3.55 gears. In traffic I use 1st a lot in traffic towing or not, much easier on the clutch. Not my first diesel and definitely not my first time towing with a manual, dealer feels certain it's defective but so far Ram customer care isn't agreeing I do wish the SRW trucks got something other than the 3.42 gears though
dragr1 12/14/17 07:31am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

a bit of a downgrade (my opinion) I have a 2012 Ford F 250, 6.2L... carry in truck bed of 1,500 pounds.. and tow a 30 foot TT.. at 9,000 pounds PLUS... the truck will do all east coast mountains.. Mine Did... but WILL YOU LIVE with 3,500 to 4,500 rpm's... No issue for me.. but going from a Diesel you just might. have a Good aftermarket clutch installed.. much cheaper. a friend has a 2011 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel .. real nice truck and its a manual. he pulls a 5th wheel KZ toy hauler. with a HD Trike. True is kind of a downgrade but I've had several other little annoying things go wrong, Ram customer care has anything but helpful so far and I'm getting tired of all the diesel recalls, I've also never really been a Ford fan but their new trucks are super nice seem to have less issues than the other 2 companies and come with the right combination of parts that I like so all that has me leaning towards a trade
dragr1 12/14/17 06:06am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

Haven't towed with a 6.2, but with the 6.8 V10, the 4.30's are so much better than the 3.73's, I 2nd this. I have the 6.8 V10 with the 3.73s and not a towing day goes by that I don't wish I had the other gearing. And I pull a smaller trailer than you have! While I agree with both of these posts, I have to say the 6-speed transmission gear spacing, and lockout capability makes a big difference with the 6.2 in later model SuperDuty trucks. The 4.30 gearing is still best choice for towing, but 3.73 is not bad, especially if the XL models have the smaller 17" tires/wheels. The 18"-20" larger tires/wheels will take away from actual gearing. I have a 13 6.2 with 3.73 that works great for my various use, not just for towing. Jerry The trucks I'm looking at all have the 18" wheels with 275/70/18 tires
dragr1 12/14/17 06:03am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

a bit of a downgrade (my opinion) I have a 2012 Ford F 250, 6.2L... carry in truck bed of 1,500 pounds.. and tow a 30 foot TT.. at 9,000 pounds PLUS... the truck will do all east coast mountains.. Mine Did... but WILL YOU LIVE with 3,500 to 4,500 rpm's... No issue for me.. but going from a Diesel you just might. have a Good aftermarket clutch installed.. much cheaper. a friend has a 2011 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel .. real nice truck and its a manual. he pulls a 5th wheel KZ toy hauler. with a HD Trike. Do you have 3.73 or 4.30 gears in the F250?
dragr1 12/14/17 06:00am Tow Vehicles
RE: F250 CC SB 4x4 6.2-3.73 or 4.30 for 10,700lb travel trailer

For clarification, my Jayco 33BHTS is 37' over all but classified as a 33 footer (33' box), 9060 lbs empty, about 10,700 lbs loaded (including tongue weight), tongue weight is around 1440 when loaded in winter, a little lighter in the summer. I've weighed it between 8800 and 9360 on the trailer axles.
dragr1 12/14/17 05:42am Tow Vehicles
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