RE: Tundra as Tow-Mobile: 1,200 miles, 12,000 lbs, 10 MPG
Opinions are like-------- we all have one but we really don't need namecalling. We all want to be right but facts make us right not names. No matter what truck be it 1/2 3/4 or 1 ton someone will overload it why is you jump all over the lesser and then do the same thing yourself?
There are a good many people here that understand why there are weight capacities for trucks. Many chose the "right" truck for the job. This guy is telling those people they wasted their money as he can pull equal to the 3/4 ton pickups with his Toyota.Based on some numbers that he decides are valid. Air bags or tires do not change any of the capacity the axle was rated to carry.
He goes on and on on how he can keep up with the diesels pulling fully loaded on a grade, yet tells us how safe and carefull he is when loaded as such. He changes his story to suit the conversation.
"Anybody" pulling overloaded must have some doubt in the back of their mind that someday something will fail because of it. If you don't ... you kidding yourself. I'd like to know that if my setup caused an accident it wasn't because I overloaded the truck.
He is so proud of this fact he should put a sign on the back of his fiver in huge letters so everyone behind him can give him plenty of space.
MY TRUCK IS GROSSLY OVERLOADED
TAKE APPROPRIATE PRECAUTION
RE: Tundra as Tow-Mobile: 1,200 miles, 12,000 lbs, 10 MPG
First post: I have a 34 ft 5th wheel which is about 10,000 lbs empty and loaded up is 12 K with fifth wheel hitch, generator, gas, tools, etc in the truck box.
About 500-600 of the 12,000 estimated weight is stuff that is actually, physically in the truck box.
By the time you put extra batteries, full propane tanks, water in the system, picknick tables, extension cords, tools, bedding, food, etc., etc., into the trailer, I don't think it's a far stretch to get to another 1,400 - 1,500 lbs loaded into the trailer.
Do you?
I thought you said you were "done" about 5 posts ago? :R
I'll also assume some of the shots you fired about lug stud strength were fired at me. Well, that's fine. You can believe whatever you want to believe and I'll do the same. I've worked as a medium/heavy truck mechanic professionally in the past and have observed first hand the effects of overloading trucks and it's not pretty. I'm not suggesting that going down the road suddenly a wheel will fly off, but as overweight as you state you are (although you haven't posted your actual weights yet), what if you hit a large pothole with a rear wheel on your truck and the extra loads/forces are exerted on the already overloaded axle/lug studs/wheel?
Do you feel there is enough "engineering tolerance" built into your set-up to absorb that repeatadly without issue?
Just some food for thought.....
He is a troll. This going on and on about him being a little overweight and it is acceptable to him. He laughs at those spending extra money on a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup to handle a little extra weight. It won't be a laughing matter when we read about him in the news some day when he kills his family or someone elses because of his ignorance. He is not the brightest lightbulb in the bunch.
It is obvious this guy doesn't care what you or anyone has to say. God help his family.
RE: Tundra as Tow-Mobile: 1,200 miles, 12,000 lbs, 10 MPG
As soon as I saw his name "American Made" it blew any credability he might have thought he had. I'm surprised anyone contributed to massaging his ego. What a waste of time.
Wonder what he'd do if the pilot announced over the intercom on the next plane he boarded stating the flight would be grossly overloaded? But don't worry ... we do it all the time.
Enjoy your rice burner.
RE: Need to wear thermal underwear to bed in my Montana
We noticed on our last camper, and our new Montana was some of the windows had small plastic clips on the edge of the window. We had a draft as well.This is how I found the clips. The window would not shut all the way (they might look closed). That clip caused the draft. just open the window, go outside and pull them off.
RE: Breaking: Edmunds Picks 1500 Dodge Ram In Face To Face Test
Wow you Dodge boys are sensitive. Make a few jokes and General Orders start flying. Next thing you know I am going to be told to "bend and thrust" or "Side Saddle Hop." Don't worry, I am not as sensitive as you boys.
Give me a break you crybabies....I was just joking. ROTFLMAO at you!
Seems like your the "sensitive" type. You can't roll with the punches.If you can't finish the fight you started then stay in the kitchen with the girls.If You wanted a real truck you would have bought an American brand.The Tundra is too feminine for my tastes anyway.
RE: Greasing wheel bearings and Brake squeaks
Do yourself a BIG favor and treat those things like they are not there. I see more ruined brakes from those... If this is a new to you trailer, take the time and pull all 4 wheels and grease the bearings the old way. Also replace the seals.
Rich
I'll second that. Take it from experience.It is more trouble than it's worth.If you already greased them, the squeak could be grease on the brakes.
RE: Dump or Sewer
with full hook up we leave the hose attached. We never leave the grey tank valve open. I'd hate to have that sewer gas back up into my unit.We dump the grey as needed and save a tank full to flush the black tank after dumping it.
RE: Leveling Blocks, What do you use?
RV load leveler ramps. No need to stack boards. Just back up and stop when level.They have worked great for me
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/rv-load-levelers-pair/6030
grey water drain pipe routed above axle
We have a Montana 3665re.It is a island kitchen model. The drain pipe from the kitchen sink exits under the trailer. It is then routed outside the belly cover and above the axle with only a 3" clearance from the axle tube. Has anyone had this on their camper and if so have you had issues? My concern is with a good bump on the road the axle will contact the drain pipe and break it. It is a new fifth wheel to us. It just seems like a bad engineering design or a mistake by the factory. I called Montana and the customer service rep noted it on our file but said not to worry about it.
It just looks like a accident waiting to happen. I did post it at the Montana forum ... no response from anyone.
Any thoughts?
RE: I got an axe to grind with Capital One
received the letter last week. Going up to 17%. Statrting next year. If you don't like it they will close your account. I'll just cut it up and use my debit card as I do now.
RE: Big Horn vs Montana
I absolutelty have zero problems with French posting actual,complete honest factual information. That is what a comparison is.There was a prior post "he" started "getting into everyone" about how much better the Big Horn is were he lied with a lot of outdated or wrong information. Including this one.
Everyone has a opinion sure ... but anyone claiming it's information that is factual in a comparison, and it's not, is misleading to anybody considering buying ... even if it was the Big Horn.
Yes I chose the Montana over the Big Horn. However I have never stated it is a "better RV" or ever started a post making comparisons that was "wrong information". People come here for advise or opinions and should get correct answers.Some people might find the actual facts something their interested in before making a purchase.
I'm not the one claiming the Montana is a overall better purchase
( Jfrench post # 4). I consistantly stated they are both equally nice and comparable fifth wheels.Unlike some people who insist on twisting the stories around.
You Like the Big Horn ... and you believe J French ... please buy it. But if your looking for good information I suggest doing the research on your own, because people will tell you what they want. Believe what you want.
RE: Big Horn vs Montana
Sorry guys but im not a salesmen. I have not been for over 4 years now. Now there is the ever changing market so sometimes info can be wrong but I dont think any bodys just lies. Its like montana website where it tells you the 3 diffrent front caps and the one that big horn has they say does not have a 88 turing with a short bed. Dont think they lie do you? Just dont know. et2 you where on here jumping on someone before I even got on here, Plus Im not syaing the Montata is a bad RV. is my spelling so bad that we miss where I said ITS A GOOD RV AND COULD NOT GO WRONG WITH BOTH?
Joe. Do you really think readers of this Forum have forgot your last rant a few months ago.If you really want to push it I'll post the link to it so we can all go over it ... again. So what is your beef? I posted the correct information you and others seem to blow right over.It's not jumping on anyone. As a matter of fact one poster ask for anyone to correct him if he was wrong. I simply pointed out some actual facts.Your not saying the Montana is a bad RV ... it's just not up to your standard ... right?
Your opinion is just biased ... plain and simple. And I'm sure your intentions are hoping "your" comments could possibly sway somebody reading this into the dealer you work for.
You said ... is my spelling so bad that we miss where I said ITS A GOOD RV AND COULD NOT GO WRONG WITH BOTH?.
Quite frankly ... why do you insist on your BS comparisons then? :h
RE: Transporting 5er from IN to CA
Since it appears that I’ll be making a purchase from the Midwest, the dealer provided a shipping quote of $1.50 per mile, for this 2400 mile trek. Furthermore, it is my intent to fly back to IN, and conduct the PDI. Thus after conducting a brief search for transportation services and requesting quotes from several companies, it seems that the going rate is around $1 to $1.15 per mile. Granted there is level of due diligence that would need to be conducted, regardless of the carrier. Lastly, my insurance company stated that they will cover the transportation of the vehicle. Is there anything else I should be looking for…
A new truck?:D
RE: Big Horn vs Montana
yes we have had run ins as well as everyone you met on here. I find it very funny myself to find the need for it. I think you forgot. MY PLACE SALES BOTH OF THEM! So I think I may know alittle about them. In fact at one time I was a sales person and sold one of the first bighorns ever. I been working with RVs for over 10 years now. So yea I know alittle about it. So sorry Im going to stick by what I say. THERE BOTH GOOD!!!! I WOULD TAKE THE BIGHORN BUT YOU CAN GO WRONG WITH BOTH. Get over it yours is not the only good one out there sorry.
PS
If I wanted to go with a remote I would go with the one forest river has. You have to have 2 remotes but you dont have to go to the side of the rv to tell the remote what you want it to do. Not that a remote is really that big of a thing. I think how its built, colors, and floorplan is above a remote. and no et2 I not saying yours is bad im saying the remote (TO ME) is not that big of a thing as how a RV is made. O and why would I buy one when I can use anyone I want when ever I want?????
First off. I have not had any issues or confrontations with anybody but you. You are always the first to contradict anything I or others say about Montana, which by the way is all "facts". Your always playing the game when anybody brings up the Montana and how much better the Big Horn is and wanting to "compare" them. But you don't compare them ... you stretch the truth.When I call you on it you claim I'm looking for a fight.If it is "your" place as you own the dealer I hope Montana knows who you are and pulls the line from you. I'd hate to have a salesperson like you who insists on playing games.I have never downed the Big Horn. Just called you on your inaccuracies. So you can expect everytime you post your lies ... you can bet I'll call you on it to keep it honest.
As far as the remote goes ... don't you think it would a benefit not having to run in and out of the trailer door when extending the slide to check the clearance from objects on the side? Then without having to move select the awning and extend it, Then with out moving select the stabilizers and set them down,not to mention not having to stretch while taking the weight off the fifth wheel hitch when disconnecting by using the remote.Don't forget the remote scare light. You don't have to leave your porch light on at night when not home shining on all your neighbors. Just use the remote when you pull up in your car and turn it on. All this can be done without having to move an inch,or bending down, or running in and out of the trailer. I'm sure you can probably convince some of your salesmen and women that that could be used as a selling feature. But of course it means nothing to you. Quite frankly why do you sell Montana's if your so quick to sell the Big Horn.It's dealers with attitudes like your's that don't do the industry or buyers any good.
I find it funny you find the need to try to make me look like the fall guy here.I'm not the one posting the BS.
jfrench is a salesman at Camping World in Katy, TX. They sell the Big Horn there. Right next door is Holiday World. They sell the Montana.
Having said that, I looked at the Big Horn where jfrench works. He gave me a list of the things that Big Horn had that Montana didn't. I proceeded next door to Holiday World with the list to look for myself and discovered that most of the items on it were lies. I did like both units, but we ended up going with the Montana for the floor plan. The quality was very good in both.
Haha ... enough said.Someday he'll be selling someone elses telling everybody lies about the Big Horn. Funny how the truth comes about isn't it?
RE: Grand Junction?
Hi guys and gals; the DW and I will be retiring soon and heading for several years of full-time rving :W. We've been looking a different coaches for about 3 years, trying to find that "perfect" unit :h. We're not "well-healed" and will probably do some workcamping to subsidize our income :R. I was just looking at a couple of 09 Grand Junctions at Marietta (OH) RV and Marine Outdoor World. Does anyone have experience with this coach? How does it hold up? It looks very nice :) but looks can deceive. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks
PTL
We just sold our 2007 for a new Montana.The Grand Junctions are nice trailers. We did have some problems. Ongoing electrical from the day it was purchased,slide issues,landing gear shear pins,wheel bearings,vent lines pinched. The electrical problems never went away.I finally had enough.For the money they are nice.I'm sure they all don't have the problems we encountered.We would have kept it, but the electrical problems got to me.We would wake up many times with breakers tripped.
For a little more money you can look at Montana's - Big Horns - etc.You might find they fit your needs as well.
RE: Big Horn vs Montana
yes we have had run ins as well as everyone you met on here. I find it very funny myself to find the need for it. I think you forgot. MY PLACE SALES BOTH OF THEM! So I think I may know alittle about them. In fact at one time I was a sales person and sold one of the first bighorns ever. I been working with RVs for over 10 years now. So yea I know alittle about it. So sorry Im going to stick by what I say. THERE BOTH GOOD!!!! I WOULD TAKE THE BIGHORN BUT YOU CAN GO WRONG WITH BOTH. Get over it yours is not the only good one out there sorry.
PS
If I wanted to go with a remote I would go with the one forest river has. You have to have 2 remotes but you dont have to go to the side of the rv to tell the remote what you want it to do. Not that a remote is really that big of a thing. I think how its built, colors, and floorplan is above a remote. and no et2 I not saying yours is bad im saying the remote (TO ME) is not that big of a thing as how a RV is made. O and why would I buy one when I can use anyone I want when ever I want?????
First off. I have not had any issues or confrontations with anybody but you. You are always the first to contradict anything I or others say about Montana, which by the way is all "facts". Your always playing the game when anybody brings up the Montana and how much better the Big Horn is and wanting to "compare" them. But you don't compare them ... you stretch the truth.When I call you on it you claim I'm looking for a fight.If it is "your" place as you own the dealer I hope Montana knows who you are and pulls the line from you. I'd hate to have a salesperson like you who insists on playing games.I have never downed the Big Horn. Just called you on your inaccuracies. So you can expect everytime you post your lies ... you can bet I'll call you on it to keep it honest.
As far as the remote goes ... don't you think it would a benefit not having to run in and out of the trailer door when extending the slide to check the clearance from objects on the side? Then without having to move select the awning and extend it, Then with out moving select the stabilizers and set them down,not to mention not having to stretch while taking the weight off the fifth wheel hitch when disconnecting by using the remote.Don't forget the remote scare light. You don't have to leave your porch light on at night when not home shining on all your neighbors. Just use the remote when you pull up in your car and turn it on. All this can be done without having to move an inch,or bending down, or running in and out of the trailer. I'm sure you can probably convince some of your salesmen and women that that could be used as a selling feature. But of course it means nothing to you. Quite frankly why do you sell Montana's if your so quick to sell the Big Horn.It's dealers with attitudes like your's that don't do the industry or buyers any good.
I find it funny you find the need to try to make me look like the fall guy here.I'm not the one posting the BS.
RE: Big Horn vs Montana
ssjt don’t feel bad or single out. If you look on here et2 always looks like he’s trying to pick a fight. I do give him this he is right for most of what he type, but I’m not sure why we are even typing out that bighorn only puts this on 5 models. So what it’s the 5 that need them. They are the large one in return would be heavier. Should we not be happy that someone is stepping up to the plate on there large units. Look how many don’t do that. Cardinal, Montana, Everest, and so on. Now Montana has step up there new one a lot that that’s what you are missing. Your going on all info. Heartland took a lot away from them these last few years so Montana change a lot of there stuff to be more like a heartland Bighorn. They will be change a lot more too. I hear but could be wrong that they will be going to a LAMINATED roof and floor as well and get away from the norm floor and sheet metal roof. This is a ever changing thing so its really not fair to say someone is wrong. Hell I been working with RVs for a very long time and its my job to keep up with them and still realklly cant. They are both good lines so really pick what you want. Me I love the heartland stuff but could see why if you went with keystone. You really cant go wrong
PS
Whats the point of a remote that I have to control with using a nob on the side of the RV?
Mr. or MS French. It is obvious you don't know what your talking about. Tell us, Do you know how the remote systems operates? I bet you don't.
Anybody who want's to do a search on this subject can clearly see "who" is picking a fight. I'm not the one putting up false or incomplete information or claiming to be an expert. You might want to go back and read some of your other posts because ... yes ... "you" and "I" have gone around on this.Your comments are pretty funny coming from a person who states they own neither. So what's in it for you? Just looking to stir the pot?
Unless your willing to put your money where your mouth is you don't have a leg to stand on.If you don't think Heartland changed the BigHorn to equal some thing "standard" in the Montana your talking from both sides of your face.
As you have managed to do in the last post on this subject you will probably get this closed.Go buy one and tell us something you have experience with ... otherwise you opinion means nothing.
And you don't need to send me PM's telling me to be nicer to you. Your like a little child.
RE: Investment in an RV?
How's your 401K doing :E.
Your RV can't be any worse ... at least you can deduct your payments and have fun camping with your family. So in that sense ... yep ... It's an investment IMHO.
RE: Big Horn vs Montana
Facts? ok ....here we go. Fact..Montana is overpriced. Bighorn has larger tanks, larger axels and heavier tires. LAMINATED roof and floor, Real wood stiles, real countertops ( not fiberglass composite ) , 40000 btu furnace and 12 gall wh standard!...air and heat in stool area...large walk in closet ................theres your facts... Hope i can trade
Well since you want to post facts. I bought my Montana for less than a comparable BigHorn of which we have more options included.Price wasn't a issue for us on the Montana.
Montana's tanks are 66f/50w/93gray
Big Horn tanks are 75f/45w/90gray
The Big Horn has a 10" I beam on all but "4" units.Montana has 10" I beams.
The tires are the same on both until you look at only 5 models on the Big Horn.
There are only 5 models on the Big horn with 7,000lb axles the rest are 6,000. Montana doesn't state their axle capacity.
Montana floor ..
3" Welded Aluminum Floor,1/4" ABS Underbelly,Astro-Foil Insulation (97% Heat Reflection),Moisture Barrier,Fiberglass Insulation,5/8" Seamless Floor Decking, Full Radius-wrap Aluminum Enclosure
Big Horn floor ..
Strong 3” Aluminum Framing,Block Foam Insulation,5/8” Seamless Decking ( which by the way is only on the 2010 models all others are 3/8").Thermo-Board Luan on the Bottom
Montana roof .. 5" Fabricated galvanized Steel Truss Rafters on 16” Centers,3/8" Roof Decking,Aluminum Radius Roof Transition Molding, Fiberglass Insulation,Vented attic,Aluminum wrapped AC duct,One-Piece EPDM Rubber Roof Membrane.
Big Horn .. 5” Welded Aluminum Attic Trusses,3/8" Roof Decking,Radius Metal Roof Cap,R-14 Formaldehyde Free Block Foam,Moisture Ventilation Caps,One-Piece Seamless EPDM Rubber Roof.
35,000 BTU ducted furnace on Montana - 40,000 on Big Horn.
I don't know what you mean by "real" countertops but Corian counter tops,Solid hardwood cabinet stiles, cabinet doors with raised panels and radius corners, end panels, crown molding and desk tops,come on the 10th anniversary edition on Montana.Residential full extension steel drawer guides.
12 gallon water heater on both.
Both heat the stool area and have "walk in closets".
Montana has a 80 amp Xantrex™ XADC converter, Big horn 60amp.
Montana has Easy Set Remote Control System: remote control electric rear stabilizer jacks, remote control electric front jacks, remote control A&E™ 12v power awning, remote control hydraulic slide-outs, remote control patio scare light. Not offered by Big Horn.
Montana ... Hidden safe under bed,"Shoe Closet" storage area in front wardrobe,Residential-sized chest of drawers with hidden storage compartment ( well not anymore hehe)
Hope that helps.
RE: Montana 3665RE
We are looking to purchase a Montana 3665RE Fifth Wheel Anyone here have any experience with one? Give me the good, the bad and the ugly!
Thanks.
We have one.Have not used it yet ... :)
