My Avion is over 45 years old and has been outside it's entire life. I have rebuilt the interior 2-1/2 years ago, and I think the exterior has another 50+ years left in it.
My Avion is a 1966, so is nearly 50 years old! While I have made some repairs, and rebuilds, it has been outside it's entire life. This does not mean it is maintenance free, But, if you keep it maintained, it will last well even if kept outside.
Checked the fit of my new tire chains on the truck. Better to figure everything out where its warm and dry than try it the first time in the snow. Amazing how much easier it is to get them on with a small wood block under the tire and to have cam style chains
just have to carry zip ties to secure the xtra two links of chain on the front and backside of the tire
Looks good buzz!
Are you running 225 or 245 70 19.5? I currently have 265 70 19.5 and have not yet got chains for them. But I have the same type of chains you show here for my winter studded 235-85-16's. Because I don't go far in the winter with the TC, and it is off more than on, the 16's are fine, but whenever we leave Kodiak, Alaska, I will probably leave the 19.5's on year round. So I am curious about chain to body clearance. The 265/19.5's are 34" tall, so the F350 is close fit. Thanks, and again, look in' good!
Ticki, or others...
How thick is our walls? The reason I ask, is that my front window still leaks and leaks in Alaska stink.... I am researching options to replace with a newer style that won't leak in Alaska winds and rain. So I have aC10, but I believe that the C11 should be e same.
Don't mean to blow my own horn.....but we made the TCM calendar for the year. Probably the first Avion C-10 on a calendar in many a moon!
Congratulations!!! Now we all have to work that much harder for next year! It sure is nice seeing a C-10 in the mix with all those new-fangled TC's ;-)
Here's the third and final piece of the puzzle.
Its the heat exchanger for the truck engine.
There are plenty of ways to pumb this whole
setup. Even though most of the sailors seem
to run engine coolent straight through the hot
water heater, and the heaters heat exchanger
is double jacketed for safety; I would rather play
it safe for the truck engine and use a nontoxic
coolent for the now separated heater loop.
Again there is an expected temperature drop
with this second heat exchanger but with truck
engine temperature at 213, it needs to drop
to a reasonable 140.
The plumbing still stumps me as to valves
needed and even finding the coolent connectors
to the trucks heater core.
Ideas on plumbing this all is
Garry the radiator heater is an aquahot 200 rsted at 6000 btu.
They have lots of different sizes, the compact size of this one
seems a good fit. They also make diesel water boilers for a similar
design. Too much and too pricey though.
I would recommend that since you are going with a separated loop, that you use a circulating pump, and expansion tank, some way to charge additional water/antifreeze into this heating loop, and a couple valves with quick-disconnects for when the TC is off the truck. Additionally do you intend on having this hot water all the time circulating to the TC? If not, then a thermostatically controlled circ pump might be the right call to provide the heat to the TC only when you want it.
Good Luck, and keep the info rolling!
Heres the next installment. The little
radiator heater came in. It will be attached
to the heat exchanger on the water heater.
I am using premium silcone heater hose since
it will give off minimal heat, that will become
more important when the eventual run is
made to the truck engine. It is good as well
inside the camper so as not to burn fingers
when moving the heater around. I am hoping
I can get by with a thermosiphon alone, but
a march pump maybe in order. Thoughts?
Who is the maker of the heater, and what is the BTU rating? This is getting interesting! I wish I would have had something like this in the Winter of 2011 to keep the TC warmer while driving around Anchorage area in sub-zero temps...
Winter Camping in Alaska
Please read our trip report. It shows everything we did to use our 1966 Avion in sub-zero weather for a family of 6 for a Thanksgiving trip, and maiden voyage for the rebuilt Avion.
Get out and do it!! It's great!!
Garry, Kodiak, Alaska
I use one of these, it's also a good way to test the smoke alarm. ;)
Not only do we use this in our camper, but we use it at my dads remote Alaskan cabin, and our good friends even use it in their home in Anchorage AK, since they have a small kitchen, and it folds flat. They store it with the cookbooks.
These work really well!
Thanks Dave; thats what its all about!
Avion campers are one of a kind. I am
installing a marine electric hot water heater with heat exchanger.
That way I can run off truck engine heat when rolling and I am installing a hydronic
heater to also run off the water heater. I have
a wave 3 but I am just too paranoid about gas fumes
to use it in a confined space. If anyone is interested,
I certainly can pass my experiences along. It certainly
isn't stock, but is neato!
Please take pics, and do a write up! I am very interested! BTW how big is this marine HWH?
Just because of Where I live, I would not trust the Jacks alone... We live on an island in Alaska where winds are a frequent concern. The winds have overturned 25 ft boats on trailers, overturned a truck camper right out of the bed of the truck, pulling the side of the bed out of the truck (granted it was using bed-tie-downs). Where a few people here, have poured pads with tiedown eyes with pieces of chain into the slap, then lowered the camper onto a riser of some type, then tied the camper down to the chains to keep the wind from blowing over their camper. Just saying, don;t always trust the jacks alone.
I feel your pain! Tiki you must give us
all the gory details how this happen.
I must say you know how to pick up a fumble.
That work is drop down gorgeous. I especially
like your reuse of materials. (I personally think
it looks better than it did, its got more character).
I agree! That turned out GREAT!!! After seeing your interior trick with the aluminum, I think I will need to see if I can do something similar in my closet. As some of you may remember, the PO had cut out and thrown away the rear fiberglass cap on the drivers rear corner. He beat out the dented exterior and resealed the shell. I re-insulated, and then built the closet which hides the ugliness, but I would like to finish it properly...
Are the new panels from Cayo clear coated? Painted? Anodized? Not that I plan to get any right now, just for future reference.
There are lots of ideas in my head, am I going to add solar ? How many batteries ? 6 volt or 12 ? What am I going to use for a toilet/black tank as the OEM is shot. I want to add a grey water tank. I am going to refinish all of the original wood cabinets. What will I use for a floor finish ? All LP lines will be new. I'm going to add Corian counter top in the kitchen . What color will I paint the interior ? You guys have all gone down this road so I'm preaching to the choir. But I'm a one man army so the pace is slow/steady. I've rebuilt cars,boats,motorcycles etc. so I am not intimidated by long builds. I do see a light at the end of the tunnel !
These are similar questions I had, and when I bought my Avion, it was at a similar state to where you almost are. Mine had the structural fixed, and the. Leaks fixed. But the only original pieces that came with it were th upper cabinets, the sink a nd a few other bits and pieces.... So you might have a few more original bits, but you can choose what you reuse, and what you replace. Like the bathroom, you can go original, and build a replacement tank, you could go the inexpensive route, and go with a porta-potti, you could go with a composting toilet, you could go with a recirculating toilet or a cassette toilet. So many ideas, so many options. As you replace the floor at the wings you may want to make a decision at least which direction you might be going. A flat floor will work for most of the options, but the raised floor will be needed for the OEM. Good luck how ever you proceed, but if you have any questions about what each option offers, let us know!
Look in' Great! You will love your Visions! We have had ours for a few years now, and they are the best for hauling a TC on a SRW F350. If you do any driving without the TC, they are a bit rough riding, but tolerable.
Good luck on the rest of your trip! Looks like a lot if fun!
I know I easily have a year to two years worth of work ahead of me to finish every last detail but that does not deter me.
It takes courage, persistence, patience, money and vision to restore these antique campers. Thats why everyone of them is unique -
As I have mentioned before. Some try to finish everything before using their TC, but if you are able to get it far enough to use it, it gives you some satisfaction and encouragement to stay the course. It also gives you some direction as far as what changes make you happy, and what changes need a little but of tweaking...
Mine is still a work in progress, yet we use it as much as we can. And that is what makes it fun!
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It looks to be in pretty decent shape. The cabover isn't sagging at all. Could use a bath, and probably a reseal. Check all the old copper lines before using th propane, as these older campers of ours, especially in wet weather, can corrode and develop leaks. Great price you got it for, and keep us posted as you get more pictures and start working on it!
Garry in Kodiak, AK
I just pulled the C-10 off so that I can get some much needed maintenance done to my F350. It needs ball joints, U-joints, and inspect bearings. It needs brakes checked out, e-brake fixed, and then just normal oil/fluids changed... I also found the front axle u-bolts a bit loose, but can't loosen or tighten... So I am ordering up new front U-bolts. I am getting this stuff all fixed since snow may be flying soon, so along with all that, I need to get the plow all ready too...
Not exactly fun stuff, but necessary.
I have purchased a Ford 2013 F250 4WD diesel Supercab to carry my Avion around on.
I'd be interested in hearing about your experiences with various tiedowns. The '82 Ford the Avion came on had Torklifts up front and Happijac tabs bolted to the side of the bed for the rear tiedowns. I'm thinking perhaps Torklifts all around might be the most secure solution. Your thoughts?
BTW, I have gone back to Plan A, wherein I rebuild the camper as an independent, slide in and out unit, without the access hatch cut into the back of the cab and the front of the camper to allow actual passage between the two units.I was just too far down the road for the major course correction that required.
The dogs are just going to have to find happiness sticking their noses thru the sliding windows in the two rigs.
The reattaching of the shell to the aluminum frame is proceeding slowly but in a fairly straightforward manner. Back into the swing of Avion restoration! Pics soon.
I have the torque lift. They are great! But if you need to buy, buy the super hitch first with the tie downs, since the standard do not interchange with the superhitch ones...