Congrats on the Lance TC! I always kinda thought that the "dark side" was about when someone got on the TC forum & said that they sold there TC to go to a bigger RV of some sorts, as far as I was concerned they just went to the dark side!
Well I can say were happy with our 2015 Lance 1050S, actually were impressed with the fit & finish on ours. Something that I couldn't say back in 011 or 012, they seemed to finally step up to the plate with the counter tops, new cabinets over head by the bed area.
With that said, I would be hesitant about buying the 1172 because of the slide issue's that seem to be a problem. Maybe with the mfg change of the slide mechanism it maybe fixed, who knows. My own personal opinion is that I personally didn't want a TC with more than one slide. One is enough of a concern for me!
I guess if your going to stick to the main roads, then 2 or 3 maybe ok, but I just feel that when they start "cutting out" all the walls & adding slides you loose some structuall integrity. I don't care who build them, just MHO. Good luck with whatever one you buy!
Who ever pays list price? We bought a new 015 1050S fully loaded for about 32k last May in Yakima Wa from Hills Bros. I forget what the list was but I think it was about 25% off list. We love this new Lance! almost worth what we paid, I don't think so, but oh well!
On our 2015 1050S there all LED's on the interior,we also have the dimmer over the table. But no switch by the door either for the interior lights! How stupid!m its actually dangerous IMO. My 93 Lance had a interior switch by the door!
The Wife picked up a LED light set with a wireless remote that can be vellcrowed ? to the wall by the other switches. I just put the lights on top of the rear window valance. Works great, just open the door & hit the switch at night. This was actually suggested earlier on another thread on the Lance Forum, (so I can't take the credit for this great idea).
Other than this we Love our new Lance & am actually impressed by most everything. I have had to take off a couple of the steel catches on the doors & slightly grind on them, to make the cabinet doors shut better. No big deal as far as I was concerned, these things are mass produced, & I'm surprised that they all don't have more problems than they do.
We live close to the border in WA, we use to rough camp a lot in BC. I have paid the fee (I thought it was more than $25) I got my rifle or shotgun thru. One time I made the mistake of saying it for personal protection, they said from what? I said from other people, etc. They turned me back to the States. This was around the time when a family had been killed around a campfire in the Wells Gray area.
If asked from what, say from Wildlife. Also if you were camping in a non remote area, they will not allow you to take a firearm into CA, (they figure you don't need a shotgun at a RV park for instance.)
Anyway we don't go up very often anymore,(its to bad we love CA) because of the long waits at the borders because there all coming down to Bellingham buying everything. They even have 4 or 5 gas cans full of gas going back across the border. To bad the CDN government doesn't do something about this.
Hey thanks Specularius, of course I never thought that they would just keep the 1/2 or more that's in there & chg the next pigeon for a whole tank. They probably would, this is in its self dishonest as far I'm concerned. But I know that that's the way it works in the bus world.
I may try to contact the Serv comm of our state, but probably won't go anywhere. And yes the propane has been paid by me & a yrs lease pd in advance. (I should have checked about there policy yrs ago, however my Brother In Law had the tanks dropped off yrs ago)
Hey thanks! Actually I could tip the tank on its side (Its a vertical style) & prop it up. That may work? If it doesn't have the wet style valve I wonder how the propane co would recover it without tipping it upside down, maybe with a forklift. Who knows hardly worth the effort & back aches. I think there being jerks for not at least refunding part of the yearly rental. (I will just let it sit there till the end of the lease, so they can't rent again!) I know whining like a baby, its just the principal. They have had two tanks sitting here for over 10 yrs, between our trailer & my Sister's motorhome!
We have about 200 gallons in a rental tank that they won't give us any credit for when we return it. I thought if I took off the reg off the big tank & with the proper hose & fittings that I would be able to fill up my smaller camper tanks, barbecue, etc.(As long as I of course open up the vent screw on the small tank till its full, & shut off the big tank).
I really don't see any problems really doing this, I had this tank by our trailer for a couple of yrs while we were looking after my aging Mother.
The tanks got about 6 months rental left & they won't give me any credit on this either, (kind of one way I think). I don't know maybe all propane companies do this? But I wouldn't think that when a tanks 1/2 full or so that they would just bleed it off into the atmosphere.
Anyway I thought I would check with someone in the know on this site before I "blow" myself up.???? Thanks!!
On my old Lance 1080 which only had room for one battery. I put another in front of the wheel well in a battery box accessed thru the little doors into the wheel wells from the inside of the camper. I made up heavy cables & drilled the plywood floor behind the lance battery holder (in the sink area) & ran the cables "down" to the new battery box. This area was ventilated well enough I believe & never had any problems. One did have to be careful hooking up the cables though & remember to remove the box & battery before taking off the camper.
Of course I had tight holes & sealed around the cables thru the holes drilled. Never smelled any gasses, (at least from the batteries that is) ha ha ha!
I to dropped AAA a couple of yrs ago, just didn't ever need them. But I'm driving an old Dodge Cummins so I figured I better get something! I checked with my ins co, State Farm & they tell me that with road side assistance, they will only tow my rig (TC & enclosed trailer) to THE nearest repair facility. If I want to go further to another dealer for example, then I would have to pay for the added distance.
They said that they would take care of both the TC & trailer. sometimes the tow co will bill State Farm & sometimes I would have turn in the receipts for reimbursements. Who knows, hopefully I won't have to find out on our coming trip. They also do provide assistance if I lock myself out or run out fuel.
I figured that at 3-4$ per month this is a great deal. Hopefully my young agent got it right, I guess time may tell.
I to got a "good" deal in Yakima on our new Lance, about 25% off list & dealer cost on options. They didn't even show inbound frt on the Sales Order, (but I know I had to pay it somewhere). They also pointed out that they don't charge the Documentation Fee that they "are allowed" to charge under Wa State laws. They say it at the discretion of ea dealer to chg this.
I maybe could have neg further on the price, but didn't even try. I was satisfied with the price & service, & didn't want to come across as a "bung hole" IMO anyway!. Good-Luck
With our old 880 Lance I noticed it would slide a bit going up or down very steep grades sitting on a 1" piece of plywood. This is what I have used for years (probably because my Dad did the same in the 70's). So with our new 1050S I now have it resting on a heavy rubber mat that I bought from Les Schwab, (they chip up old tires & make custom mats for pickups). I should have done this years ago! works great no more sliding.
Sorry to hear about all your problems, that's terrible after laying out the bucks they want for these things. As previously said no manufacturer will hardly ever cover the travel expense's or ever cover the monthly payment.
We bought a new Lance 1050S in May (a 2015 model) so far knock on wood its been just fine. We love it!. I had to tighten up the outside shower fitting inside, they had crossed threaded it. It was in a tight spot, so could understand how they would have done this, but I was luckily able to get it on straight without wrecking it!. I noticed a little water coming down the inner wing area down the sheet metal.
We bought ours at Hills RV in Yakima who have an excellent rep. for fixing things, a good dealer makes all the difference I think when buying a new RV.
Anyway, good luck hope its all fixed now, & hope you get to use it without anymore problems!
I installed the Hellwig on my Dodge 3500 after I put on our new 1050S. I'm very happy with it, made a big difference over the stock one! and it was only about $260.00 thru Summit Racing (had about a $450 list price I believe, so there's some markup on this stuff)
Thought the directions kind of sucked & thought that they could have supplied larger bolts to hold the brkts to the frame, ( ended up using the old bolts). Only negatives that I had with the kit.
We bought a 015 1050s in May, I did not like the earlier ones at all when they came out. For 014 & 015 they finally put some cabinets overhead in the bed area instead of those "cheesy" metal baskets overhead. I also think they chose very nice interior colors later on. The countertops etc are a major improvement also. Theses changes did add some wt to the newer ones though. I just figured if I was going to buy new, I just wanted more "gingerbread" on what I got. That's why I waited for a 015. Good luck! We love our new Lance!
I had an Onan in my old Lance it quit working with only about 30 hrs on it, I pulled it out 2-3 times had a local Onan Dist look at it they couldn't figure it out, of course I had to pay them not to fix it. I spent a TON of money on it with the latest LPG carb updates etc. Never could get it to stay running.
So I never put it back in, & loved the additional storage, & bought a Yamaha.
Ordered a new Lance 1050S back in May & didn't order the POS Onan, I got tired of throwing $$$ at it.
In its defense I would have to say that we didn't run it near enough, we boondock a lot & have solar panels, so we don't use the gen hardly ever.
For me I picked a new Lance over the EC, mainly because of the huge price difference. Were more than happy with the new 1050S.
I did special order it with the drivers side awning (also have the rear) we used the side awning all the time in the rain with our old non-slide Lance. It was on the pass side (or dinette side) so made a little more sense. However it didn't cost to much to have it installed by Lance, I'm glad I have it as the rear one is basically useless in the pouring rain IMO, other than to keep things dryer going in & out or the camper.
For 015 I believe EC has quit using fiberglass caps, & now are just like all the rest, I did like the new Lance aerodynamic nose over the more "blunter" EC, again just a personal thing. Good Luck with which ever you choose!
I installed a Hellwig on my Dodge dually, made one heck of a difference over the stock one. We take it on fairly rough roads, cut down the swaying on these roads & so much better on the hwy. Spend the bucks! I paid about $250 thru Summit Racing, I think the MFG list on the rear bar was around $420.00. The best $250 I've spent along with the Torquelift bump stop jobbies for the springs.
I Just installed the Hellwig on my 99 3500 a couple of weeks ago. Other than I thought there instructions kind of sucked, could hardly read the small print on some of the pics, etc. I ended up using the stock inner frame brkts & bolts, they were bigger & easier to keep in place. I think they could have sent larger bolts & longer would have been better.
However after all the PITA installation, I can say that it was definitely worth it! Made a big difference hauling my 1050S over the stock bar. Sorry about all your hassles, apparently I was fortunate to at least get the right parts in the box!
The property has been for sale for awhile now. I'm not sure if the "Company" is for sale, they may re-locate the manufacturing facility. Hopefully we don't loose the Alaskan, I had one about 15 yrs ago. I loved it, I would have one now except not enough comforts for the Wife. As far as I'm concerned it was the best "pop up" out there, safe, hard sided, & could go anywhere that I could put the 4 x 4.