We bought a 015 1050s in May, I did not like the earlier ones at all when they came out. For 014 & 015 they finally put some cabinets overhead in the bed area instead of those "cheesy" metal baskets overhead. I also think they chose very nice interior colors later on. The countertops etc are a major improvement also. Theses changes did add some wt to the newer ones though. I just figured if I was going to buy new, I just wanted more "gingerbread" on what I got. That's why I waited for a 015. Good luck! We love our new Lance!
I had an Onan in my old Lance it quit working with only about 30 hrs on it, I pulled it out 2-3 times had a local Onan Dist look at it they couldn't figure it out, of course I had to pay them not to fix it. I spent a TON of money on it with the latest LPG carb updates etc. Never could get it to stay running.
So I never put it back in, & loved the additional storage, & bought a Yamaha.
Ordered a new Lance 1050S back in May & didn't order the POS Onan, I got tired of throwing $$$ at it.
In its defense I would have to say that we didn't run it near enough, we boondock a lot & have solar panels, so we don't use the gen hardly ever.
For me I picked a new Lance over the EC, mainly because of the huge price difference. Were more than happy with the new 1050S.
I did special order it with the drivers side awning (also have the rear) we used the side awning all the time in the rain with our old non-slide Lance. It was on the pass side (or dinette side) so made a little more sense. However it didn't cost to much to have it installed by Lance, I'm glad I have it as the rear one is basically useless in the pouring rain IMO, other than to keep things dryer going in & out or the camper.
For 015 I believe EC has quit using fiberglass caps, & now are just like all the rest, I did like the new Lance aerodynamic nose over the more "blunter" EC, again just a personal thing. Good Luck with which ever you choose!
I installed a Hellwig on my Dodge dually, made one heck of a difference over the stock one. We take it on fairly rough roads, cut down the swaying on these roads & so much better on the hwy. Spend the bucks! I paid about $250 thru Summit Racing, I think the MFG list on the rear bar was around $420.00. The best $250 I've spent along with the Torquelift bump stop jobbies for the springs.
I Just installed the Hellwig on my 99 3500 a couple of weeks ago. Other than I thought there instructions kind of sucked, could hardly read the small print on some of the pics, etc. I ended up using the stock inner frame brkts & bolts, they were bigger & easier to keep in place. I think they could have sent larger bolts & longer would have been better.
However after all the PITA installation, I can say that it was definitely worth it! Made a big difference hauling my 1050S over the stock bar. Sorry about all your hassles, apparently I was fortunate to at least get the right parts in the box!
The property has been for sale for awhile now. I'm not sure if the "Company" is for sale, they may re-locate the manufacturing facility. Hopefully we don't loose the Alaskan, I had one about 15 yrs ago. I loved it, I would have one now except not enough comforts for the Wife. As far as I'm concerned it was the best "pop up" out there, safe, hard sided, & could go anywhere that I could put the 4 x 4.
Well we've had our new 1050s for about 3 wks now, and have to admit that I haven't even turned the &^%& thing on! Almost afraid to, did try the stereo though it sounded good. I'm not a TV lover especially on camping trips. I like a good movie now & then, the Wife loves to watch TV & so far she hasn't fiddled with it yet! I don't think she knows that its 12vdc, & we didn't get the generator! I'm probably OK for a while.
Just picked up my 015 1050S, I didn't get it. Concerned now about dragging my &%@ now where I take my campers. Don't want the extra wt & I really can't say that I like the looks of it. I like the AF platform better. In my opinion its just to much added rear overhang. I think it would be fine if you stick to good roads, & RV parks etc.
Besides I imagine they want a chunk for it!
Didn't get the 855s but took delivery a couple of wks ago on a 2015 1050s. Very satisfied overall, everything worked rite out of the chute. Like what they've done for the interior colors, paneling & kitchen couter, etc. I think a very 1st class TC IMO. And was priced less than the competition, at least in my area. Good Luck!
We just picked up our new 1050 2 wks ago in Yakima. I must say that I have been very impressed with the quality so far, (I know time will tell). Everything is working (as it should. I had two issues, one was I noticed that they hadn't put any sealant where the TPO nose connected to the side panels, whats up with this?. I wrote a thrd on the Lance Forum whether the other guys new Lance's were done this way, everyone replied that they were!. Lance went up about 2" on this vertical seam then quit. Anyway I could not see any reason not to seal both sides of this moulding so I sealed it!
The other issue was on the wood panel under the stove, they put a seam down about a 1/3rd of the way down & then cover it with a sticky wood grained tape, the dealer said that this was probably because when they install a convection over it comes down to this joint. So they have to only make one panel for all, whatever, I think it is BS to do this. Anyway I will live with it.
I looked at a new 1050 about 3 yrs ago, you couldn't give me one at that time, now I own one! But they have really stepped up in my opinion on my 2015, I like the new kitchen counter, the walls & interior roof colors, everything is so well matched I think. And they finally added some cabinets up in the overhead.
I'm pretty fussy, & have looked over the plumbing & wiring that I can see at least & must say that it ALL appears to be neatly run & secured! Like I said 2-3 yrs ago I didn't like the interior colors, sloppy assembly etc, but after looking at several different TC's I think my Lance is at the top or near the top as far as assembly & style goes.
And considering what I paid it was the lowest price compared to AF, & Eagle Cap by far, just couldn't justify spending a whole bunch more for an EC, even though I loved them. I'm really glad I bought a Lance! If it turns out to be a PITA I will post it on this forum & the Lance forum.
MY 99 3500 4X4 dually @117000 still original parts. Added the stabilizer for the gear box though. Drives like******though compared to the Fords & Chevs I've had in the past. Maybe the aftermrkt. gearbox someday.
Only possible explanation for driving a Dodge is for the Cummins Engine! Sure can't be the truck! All though I still like the 94-01 body style though, one great looking truck.
My everyday driver is a very nice 87 Jeep Wrangler (pre-Chryslerized) one great Jeep. The fact that there owned by Chrysler (Fiat) is the main reason I won't update to a new Wrangler. Nothing but problems, leaks, oil consumption issues, etc, etc.
I personally would never buy a new Chrysler ever again, for all of the above issues.
Just my quick opinion. We have a 20 yr old Lance & like the interior, etc. But I've done a lot of work on it over the last 12 yrs that we have owned it. We are now upgrading to a new Lance 1050s, but I don't think that I would get rid of my 20 yr old one to get someone else's 10 yr old one (as you stated that this was about your budget limitations). Ten yrs or so back they were just moving from wood framing to aluminum etc, no real advantage there.
As mentioned I to prefer a metal roof over rubber, (not sure about Lance's TPO material, I guess I'll find out)
If your's is a real nice 30yr TC I to would consider adding electric jacks, a Coleman AC unit, etc etc & keep yours. Unless of course you just want something different & a bit newer.
After buying a used one 12 yrs ago, I decided I would never buy used again, unless I knew for sure about its history & was kept inside its entire life!
I disagree with an earlier poster saying not to look at a Lance. I think they were built as well as any of them back 10 yrs ago.
I would have preferred a EC 995 but with the dealer asking 47k I didn't even bother picking up the phone! I ended up paying 31k for a fully equipped New Lance 1050S! I don't think the EC is worth the difference IMO Good Luck!
I ripped off one of my bumpers from my old Lance last summer. It hit the "Happycrap" front tie down bar that goes from one side to the other (inside bed. I'll be picking up my new Lance 1050s in a week or two, I think I will lay a 2 X 6 across the bed so it won't happen again. I guess the new TC will still have the rubber bumpers?
I looked at both the Adventurer & EC down at Apache. Liked the floor plan of the Advent. I just thought that the interior was cheaper looking and just didn't have the quality or attention to detail as the EC. But I would expect this for a far cheaper priced camper!. In my opinion you can't really try to compare the two.
Adventurer I think builds a quality product but its mostly for the RV Rental market I believe, so they don't have to have all the "gingerbread".
I personally liked the new EC 995 but just couldn't justify its huge price tag. So I will be picking up my new Lance 1050s when it comes in. I saved about 10k over the EC. I actually like the new Lance's (I didn't like them 2-3 yrs ago, but they finally cleaned up the interior the last couple of yrs IMHO.
I'm just wondering I've got a new 1050S on order for my Dodge dually, but the Wife's having a difficult time thinking about getting rid of our old 880, (I'm in the process of finishing up the repairs after my speed bump encounter last summer). I just inherited my Mom's old 95 (she just recently passed) F-250 reg cab 4 x 4, it has an 8600 gvw. She used to haul an old S & S 8ft with out any problems of course.
We just thought that maybe with the proper up grades,(new wider rear whls, overloads, swaybar, etc etc etc etc, that maybe we could keep this setup for limited use for our kids to use. I know I have to weigh the truck, to find out its payload. I don't really know what the truck would weigh, I'm guessing around 5500-6000#'s (It has a 460 gasser). So this would leave around a 2600# payload & the camper weighs around 3100 + all the crap.
I'm not sure but I imagine this truck has a Dana 60, what's its capacity?. I just thought with the proper wheels & tires & springs as long as I don't exceed the axle rating we could make this work. I'm kinda "old school" I believe in making things safe, but not afraid to over load pickups to a point.
One of my thoughts on this is what I could do & deal with is different than letting my daughters & son in laws do. What's the feeling out there? Thanks for all your thoughts!
We to have camped plenty of times in the rain with our TC. I put out the side awning with the chairs (uptight against the truck) & we stay pretty comfy with our fav bev.
That's why we special ordered the side awning for our new 1050s coming because I don't think having just the rear one would always cut it. If it gets to nasty & have to let the awning down, then we just go inside. Its all fine, what can you do? stay home, nah I don't think so!
I'm a little concerned about putting a 015 1050s (ordering it today) on my old 99 Dodge 1-ton 4x4 dually! It hauls the old Lance 880 ok (I have added those bump stops to do the O/L springs & helped. I couldn't imagine putting the 1181 (which I prefer over the 1050) or an 1191 on my dually! but of course it has a lower GVW because of its age.
One good source for figuring added weight for options is from the Arctic Fox brochure or website. I found they pretty much list the individual wt for most everything. Lance is a pretty well equipped TC in its base model so maybe there isn't to much to add to there specs.
I,m sorry I don't know your situation, but after owning several new Ford f-250's in the 80's & 90's they all had poor brakes. I know things are better on the new one's, but I would definitely consider the F-350 just for the added margin the 1-ton has over the 3/4 ton. Just IMHO,
congrats on the new TC-Hope all works well.
I here what your saying Bill, I had forgotten but I actually was in a new 1050s several yrs ago, liked the layout but not the cheesy counters or lack of cabinets overhead by the bed. But they have since remedied all these short comings as far as I am concerned anyway
And its a matter of price for me. I like the Eagle Cap 995 but no one has any & haven't for several months. I actually can buy the Lance for several grand cheaper than the EC. After I purchase the Lance I will say what the discount was off of the MSRP, (someone started a thread requesting what discounts should we get off MSRP?. I'm sure I'll have some bugs to work out of the new one, but they all due. I guess I finally decided to go back to a Lance, because I know there going to be around for awhile, and to there CNC tooling, which I believe keeps there assemblies more consistent with tight tolerance's (with no "gimp" around stuff).
One thing I noticed when I checked out the new EC 1160, was in the over cab area. When I pulled out the drawer in the cabinet by the bed and saw how they cut the opening in the cabinet face. It looked like it had been cut by a jigsaw, not real straight or smooth. Of course you don't notice it with the drawer closed, but when you open it, it really stands out! I thought for the money it should look better there.
Maybe this was just this particular camper, but I wasn't impressed when I saw it, maybe I was just being to picky, but I do have an eye for small details. (unfortunately they only had one EC on there lot so I could not look at another example) Not knocking EC's by any means I think they make a great camper & I would still buy one!. If I had my choice (at the same price) I would take the EC over the Lance actually.