OMG, these TH's are great. But big and heavy :) Like I said, probably will get a 350, but I'm still learning to tow/back my 24' HTT, so hopefully I can find a smaller/lighter version. Told the DW last night, might be the next big thing a HTH (Hybrid Toy Hauler)?????????
Now you know you want a big new shiny Dulley that will haul that new Raptor:B
I was hoping a SRW 350 LB, 6.7 Diesel would be good enough? Don't know if the DW would go for the Dulley :) Looking at a new one for $50k
The 297SE comes in at 11K dry, 2610 hitch. Dulley needed?
If I were you, I would find a 2013 you like, and wait for the '14s to hit the lots. The price on the leftover 13's should drop.
Agree 100%. I've already got my eye on a Raptor 297SE. Any thoughts from the forum?
This is why we need a toy hauler. There is a second one that is even bigger laying down out of sight. Friends jokingly call it our horse trailer.
Love it. That's one of the reasons I'm leaning towards the TH, dirty dog, create, etc.
Do you definitely want new?
"I'm looking for the best value camper that is going to be as low maintenance as possible..."
Letting someone else swallow the depreciation can give you more bang for your buck, if you find the trailer you want in excellent condition. :)
I wish someone told me this a year ago. 1)It's amazing how much dealers are getting for new, and then 2)How much in the first year a RV tanks. I guess it's only money, have fun.
It's not the industry, it's the "local dealers" many of whom treat us like they're doing us a favor by being in business rather than the other way around. Gun shops are worse, of course.
The local RV dealers are upset at places like RVW who have exposed the incredible markups charged locally.
Knowledge is power.
Good point, didn't mean to call out the entire industry. Every time I go to a local dealer I feel dirty :) If I hear one more time, "I just want to be your friend for life......" story, I'm gonna puke.
Just wanted to chime in on RVD and RVW. I purchased my Jayco X23J from RVD, picked it up in Orlando (two hours away), saved $4k from local. Not a single major problem. Maybe looking now at 5vers and RVW is beating price by $9k, I'd drive 850 miles to save that. I have come to distrust the RV industry, worse than car dealers :)
I will be buying a F350 shortbed and a Wildcat 312BHX. I know NOTHING about 5th wheel hitches.
We are moving from a HTT (maybe) and that is the 5th/truck combo we have choosen. Although I'm leaning towards a longbed with factory hitch. 2013 order shuts down in May sometimes so I have to get my HTT sold. My local Wildcat dealer is telling me that if I order now it will be a 2014. RVW is almost $9k less, so tough decision as far as buying local. I'm is same boat as far as learning curve.
I have a Jayco HTT, looking to upgrade to 5th. I have had zero problems in my first year. Also looked at the 31.5FBHS but didn't like the pass through bathroom. The 292FWBHS is a very common layout amount all brands, RVW has a 2013 for around $27 now.
I've got my eye on the Wildcat 312BHX. It can be config w/wout outside kitchen. Four rear bunks (but without slideout back there). Don't know if it falls in your weight range.
I'm 6'4" so always on the lookout for something taller.
Why not look at the GM 3500 diesel with the Allison? It comes with a 3.73 rear end standard and you don't have to make that "hard" choice. I had a 2011 Dodge with a 3.42 rear end, six-speed manual transmission and it seemed to tow our Eagle HT 26.5 RLS just fine, except for mileage, but when I hooked the boat on behind the FW, I then found out why I needed the low first gear. Really struggled to get stuff moving. It was de-rated to 650 lbs of torque due to the manual transmission, I believe. Traded it off for a GMC 2500HD 4WD Crewcab D/A combo and it doesn't even think twice when starting with the FW and boat in tow and gets better mileage than the Dodge did with just the FW. You will probably be fine with a 3.31 rear end but I was unhappy with my 3.42, might have been because of the de-rated diesel rather than the rear end.
I can get X Plan with Ford (less that invoice), so I always lean in that direction. Might wait to see what the new Ram's reviews look like. Nice to have such "hard" choices :)
I am considering RVW as well. My current HTT was purchased from RVdirect a year ago, they carry Jayco. I could not get any local dealer to go any match within $4k, so I drove 2 hours to Orlando and saved.
As I begin to look to upgrade I really do not understand the pricing models of the entire RV industry. Don't know if it's just my location or what, but again my local dealers are NUTS. So now I've found a Wildcat I like, MSRP of anywhere from $45k-$50k depending on who you talk to. I guess it's some magic number the pick out of the sky?? RVW quoted me a price of $28k, that was an "invoice sale" they were running, expired now, but the price now should be not much more than $29k-$30k. Local dealers $36k +. So I understand factoring delivery, I'd pay another $1.5k, but 5-6, that's some serious change!
I'm all in for giving my "local" dealer business, but they will not meant me even close. They immediately get uber-sensative and treat me like I'm the one that is NUTS for even considering RVW.......
The OP is obviously talking about a diesel 350. Ford only makes a 3:31 or 3:55 axle ratio for the diesel 350 SRW.
The CC 350 with 3:31, 2WD is rated at 16,300lbs for 5th wheel,I can't see a problem.
The same truck with the lower 3:55,4WD has a lower tow rating by about 1000lbs.
That's what I'm trying to understand before I order, and like others have said, I just want to make sure. If I can save on the 4x4 to either get more bells/whistles then great. But if the 3.55 makes more sense, then OK. Just NEVER seeing snow (it was like 80 degs today), never going off road/remote camping, etc I cannot see getting the 4x4 other than "looks" and perception.....
OK, I have spent the better part of the weekend reading this site and others. I always hate to ask when I can search for an answer, but now I'm more confluckted than ever
Potential new RV: 11,7k GVWR, 8220lbs dry 5th wheel, 35 ft. Been pulling 24' 4k lb HTT with F150, just now getting the hang of it.
Possible new truck: I'm thinking F350 6.7L SRW 8' bed. Not much more $ than F250, why not? We live in Florida, most trips are 2-3 hours, 1/yr GA/NC mountains. Not a daily driver, will get used beater for that. I don't think I need 4x4, never have needed it with current set-up, no off-road, all state park campgrounds.
Questions: If I stick with the 4x2 then my only option is the 3.31 Electric or Non-Limited Axles (which one?). Given above, do I need more axle ratio? Is it worth it to upgrade (if I have to upgrade to 4x4 if I will never use it)?
I agree. Still being a newbie at this after my first year, I turn to these pages daily. I'm already in the upgrade mode, so even more lately. Funny, I was talking to another couple who is thinking about getting into camping. The wife starts telling me about the husbands wish to have a X type trailer and pulling wity Y TV. I start telling them about weights and limits like I'm a pro (hahahahaha). But really, I said go check out RVNET. They really need some help as they are trusting the RV dealers on weights!!!! How dare they not get the truth from the weight police........
I'm on my first fifth wheel and the 4 point leveling system is GREAT!!
If I ever buy another fifth wheel that will be a must have. Once I get it in the spot, just drop the legs, press a button and move on to hooking hoses,power cords and the rest of the stuff and it's done by the time I finish.
If this is not include on my FW of choice (whatever it turns out to be), can these be added?
OK, been back and forth between FW and TH. Found a FW I really like online, Wildcat 312BHX. And an even better price from RVW. (from MSRP of $45k to $27K+delivery -yikes).
What are your must haves in a FW? What can we not live without? I need to stay in this price range. But I don't want to pull the trigger if this FW is missing something.
Then I need to go find a good deal on a F350 (diesel right)
Dry Weight 8220lbs
Cargo Capacity 3441lbs
Hitch Weight 1560lbs
Exterior Length 33.33'