Tom - I'm hoping that is true. I just purchased a 2103 F150 Ecoboost. Just completed the first tank and had 24 highway / 19.5 combined. If that gets any better, I won't be able to stand it.
My mechanic, also a neighbor, told me to expect it get better as it "breaks in" up to about 10K miles. Sure hope he's right......
That's it... !! I especially like the "wizard" version, as it takes you through the rationale of what the decision points are and why you may or may not, want to score it high or low.
Great tool. We should really set up a way to point "newbies" here when they are asking for advise on "what" to buy. Our "real world" feedback is invaluable as well, but this is a great starting point.
I hate when I find something on the net and forget to bookmark it for later.....
A few weeks back, I found a "tool" on a web site that allowed you to select dozens of different preferences (front or rear bedroom, # of people sleep, outdoor kitchen, bunks or not, etc.).
After making all these selections, the tool would then populate all of the rigs that met your criteria. Each was a live link and allowed you to go explore the floor plan and options.
Anyone familiar with this? I'd sure like to find it again. Now that we are empty nesters, we're likely in for a new rig before long.
Thanks...... (promise I'll tag it this time!)
Thanks for the heads up on the breakaway switch. For some reason, I had it in my head that it drew power from the 7 pin harness. Thinking that through, in the event of a breakaway.... duh! :S
I'll remedy that before the next outing.
I will also look over several options on ebay / Amazon and pick something. Thinking I'm getting tired of the cranking.
I've searched and read several entries regarding pro's and con's of multiple brands. I've noticed each has their share of success and horror stories. I'll sort through that.
In reading them, I've discovered there were some decision points I was unaware of, well.... had not considered.
If you could, make me smarter to go shop for one. I'm good to go do the research, once I understand "what" I'm looking for.
power - since we never dry camp, I rarely keep a charged battery on the rig. will they all power up with the 7 pin connector?lifting the tow vehicle to hook up WD bars - is this considered "normal use" for one? & do I need to add some amount to the capacity for this?"throw length" - how does one calculate this? with or without a timber/board underneath (would really like to eliminate that)emergency crank - in the event of a failure / power loss. Really surprised that they all don't come with onetongue weight capacity - manufacturer's list weight? or some factor higher than that?what have I missed?
Chuck - you and I have discussed this before. Does your post mean that you now have your high pressure stove working? I sure hope so. I miss my old Coleman stove so bad. It was awesome and we miss having it.
I don't understand why the manufacturers stopped putting these stoves. They are some much more effective, not even accounting for any wind.
I'd be very interested in learning more how you finally pieced this together.From regulator to stove. Please contact me via private mail if you can share more details.
All.... thanks for the frank and candid input. If you'll look at my original post, I did specify "utopia". I guess it doesn't exist.
I think I should have been more specific in my request. I am looking for the best MPG for the 90% non-towing time. I know "towing" and "fuel efficiency" are mutually exclusive - it just physics. I would like to have a every day vehicle that won't break the bank on gas. I'm committed to poor MPG while towing the 10% of the time.
Why an SUV vs a PU ? We like to have the option to have 3rd row seating on occasion. Likely more important to us, is to have the dry cargo space (knowing what we give up with that).
You have given me a lot to think about - new(er) Suburbans, diesel options, PU options.
Had not considered the diesel option. Will have to explore that. I didn't realize there were SUV options. You really don't see them often. I've not looked at Jeep before. Didn't know they had a diesel.
I may make some short term tow capacity compromises to get the fuel efficiency,until the newer generation of engines work their way into the SUV lineups.
As always, good input. Thanks. ...
We're in the market for a new tow vehicle. With the youngest heading off to college in a few weeks, DW and I are heading back out on the camping trail. Our 2003 Astro has run the good race and is ready to retire (plus it was always on the bubble for getting the job done with current rig).
I really like the Ford Ecoboost and the GM EcoTec3 engines. Both are great choices for our 90 /10 use split (90% everyday use / 10% towing), and we may yet go that direction.
Utopia is similar tow capacity and gas mileage, with a large passenger cabin with potential 3rd row seating. We really like the interior cargo space (vs. a bed cover or topper).
I keep waiting for Ford to put the Ecoboost in the Expedition and/or the EcoTec3 in the Suburban / Tahoe. For now, neither are an option.
What else is out there to fill the need for our gas efficient tow vehicle?
NOTE: Currently towing GW 5500#, future plans could increase that to 8000-9000#. I would like to buy now to cover both options.