I started to watch the movie and then I saw that the narrator looked like he was not quite old enough to get a driver's license, let alone have a lot of experience in Class A motor homes. Having owned both diesel and gas coaches, I didn't need to listen to this kid reading a script.
I own a Class A motorhome. It's currently stored in Pismo Beach, CA. It's registered in CA using a CA address with CA DMV (my fiancé's address). I live in Bradenton, FL. Insurance in FL is $2,400 per year - in CA it's $850 per year. Registration is a bit of a wash except in CA it needs to be "smogged" every 2 years - not particularly an issue.
I'd like to move the motorhome to the East but not FL. South Carolina is my target state. I would store it in SC and use it in SC but I don't have a SC address. Insurance doesn't seem to be an issue with Progressive as they will insure it based on where it resides (SC). However, registering it in SC seems to be an impossibility. Can't register it in Florida unless I pay $200 per month for insurance.
Anyone have any advice, direction, suggestion, re: how I can make this happen?
I think you need to check with some other insurance companies. I live just north of Bradenton, FL and I don't pay $2400 for all of my insurance policies including my Class A, a Chrysler hemi, my tow Chevy HHR, AND my homeowners insurance. My full coverage Class A insurance, with an agreed up value, PLUS $5000 for personal items is about $350.00 per year total.
Flammable liquids have a flash point below 100°F (37.7°C) and a vapor pressure not exceeding 40 psi (276 kPa). By contrast, combustible liquids have a flash point at, or above, 100°F (37.7°C). Classes of flammable and combustible liquids are further defined in Appendix 10-A.
The flash point is the lowest temperature, as determined by standard tests, at which a liquid gives off vapor in sufficient concentration to form an ignitable mixture with air near the surface of the liquid within the test vessel. Many common laboratory solvents and chemicals have flash points that are lower than room temperature.
Actually, the vapor, not the liquid, burns. The rate at which different liquids produce flammable vapors depends on their vapor pressure. The degree of fire hazard depends also on the ability to form combustible or explosive mixtures with air.
#2 diesel has a flash point of 126 degrees, which is not much hotter than the air temp out West during the Summer months.
This is a discussion that you seem to want to have, which is different than the one the OP started. While as a general rule obedience to the law is prudent, not all laws even though legal, are good. Would you be sitting at the back of the bus? Perhaps you would be the first to step on the box car for your relocation. Both of those "Laws" were instituted by legal authority.
BTW, Thank you for providing yet another example to prove my point.
If you cannot understand the importance of a law enacted to protect ALL people from FIRE hazards at service stations that are being frequented by individuals of varying skills at refueling, then you are in a class all of your own.
Why you want to bring the Nazi's and civil rights in to a discussion about fire safety while fueling an RV is beyond me. :h :h :h
Not that I'd want to inject any logic into this heated emotional discussion, but I'd go even further and ask, why not require that all cars be turned off BEFORE arriving at the pump and then be pushed in to position and pushed out before starting their engines? After all, other cars are at the pump refueling and here you are driving past them, hitting the brakes, jumping in and out of your seat and finally injecting voltage into your starter and accelerating past the other people fueling all while your engine is running. In fact, you and your super hot exhaust may drive right over a spill from the previous guy in line. If we are concerned about running engines causing fires, shouldn't we prevent all running engines near the pumps?
I thought it an entirely reasonable question. I had hopes of a discussion on the difference between flammable and combustable. Perhaps a touch on vapor pressures or maybe even a mention of partial pressures in the context of Boyle's Law. I didn't think there would be a mention of flame propagation rates, but I was hopeful…….
Instead, what I got was an example of how common clear rational thought is. A demonstration of why Oprah is popular and why America is governed the way it is.
It's the law, which should be enough for some people. I'm sorry that the people that enact the laws did not consult the "experts" here on this forum, but until you can change the law, deal with it, or try to convince the rest of us why YOU should be excluded.
Funny, during a simple internet search on RV fires, I find one expert that makes the statement that DP's have MORE fires than any other RV. He mentions very hot turbo chargers and leaks in the fuel or cooling systems. To quote from the article:
"Diesel pushers catch fire more often than other RVs. A tiny pinhole leak can cause a fire that may not be spotted quickly."
RV Fire safety
Most states have codified it. States don't start from scratch when they set up traffic laws, fire codes, electrical codes, building codes and other ordinances. They use things like the National Electrical Code, the US Fire Administration, and other sources to use as the basis of their own codes. There is no need to re-invent the wheel on things that are basic and common to all areas of the country. Most codes were written from experience and have already withstood any legal challenges. That is why the signage at gas stations is pretty much universal no matter what state you are in.
It finally happened. After 3o years of managing large electrical distribution systems with very large dc back up battery systems and 45 years of car battery use, I had one explode in the rv yesterday. Detonation was loud enough to where it upset the wife inside the house 100 feet away.
one of the two battery, house rack internally exploded spreading plastic and acid. We had just finished a three day trip with utilities at the campground and at the house reconnected for charging maintenance. Every three months, I check levels and adjust with distilled water only. Batteries were two years old and required water only once.
I will take both back to interstate battery and ask for a discounted replacement and Interstates recommended test for charge maintainer. The distributor is good folk and will do what's right.
I guess the message is batteries do explode and when working around them personnel protection is important, along with ventilation, spark reduction etc. Googling the issue, that explosive force is similar to a stick of dynamite with acid spray as a kicker.
You mentioned "charging maintenance". Does that mean that you had them on the charging cycle for De-sulfating, etc? If that was the case, that process produces an excessive amount of flammable gas and the compartment door should have been left open for proper venting.
I guess I missed the post about the LAW all you people seem to be talking about....:h:h:h.
Can someone point me to it....:h...
Just because some idiot puts a sticker on a pump, doesn't make it a LAW...Advisory, yes...law, NO!
You've missed a lot of things. Here is the statue from just one state.
Scroll down to near the bottom and carefully, and very very slowly, read NRS 484B.910, under Miscellaneous Rules.
Notice that it applies to all vehicles being refueled with gasoline or OTHER motor fuel.
The NRS 484B.910 is the number that will be on the citation that the officer will give you.
I just went to an auto upholstery shop and they were able to match the fabric color of my Carefree slide topper. They duplicated my old topper and the cost was less than any of the online places. It was a perfect fit since they used the old topper for a pattern.
What kind of coach and what brand of inverter?
On my Monaco coach, the inverter is never turned off, either automatically or manually, and I have no problem using 120 volt items when on the road. I have a Xantrex inverter with a 140 amp alternator.
We have traveled on holidays before but it depends where we are going. Naturally I would not travel through St. Louis this Thursday but usually if your trip involves a major city, like Atlanta, the traffic during a major holiday is usually much lighter.
Not that you will have any problems but I do remember one poster mentioning that CoachNet had trouble finding a mechanic to respond on Easter. Not surprising since most garages are closed.
Are you sure that your basement compartment is fiberglass and not molded plastic?
It doesn't really matter because cutting a small diameter hole, 4" or less, should not cause any problems. Try to devise some way to close up the hole when not needed or the rodents/insects will find it in a short time.
OSHA regulates service and refueling areas under 29 USC 1926.152 (g-k). These regulatory sections contain more than 150 subsections, various formulas and at least three information tables. Leaving aside building, storage, fire control and electrical requirements, OSHA requires protecting dispensing units against collision damage. Use approved hoses and nozzles for dispensers. Provide shut-off devices away from the dispensing area. Shut off all motors while refueling. Standards prohibit open flames or smoking in areas used for fueling, gasoline receiving or dispensing areas or where servicing fuel systems for cars, trucks and other internal combustion engines.
Only reason to leave it running for awhile after coming of the highway is to allow the turbo to cool.
Diesel fumes will explode.
What's the risk
While diesel fuel isn't as combustible as gasoline, it's nearly so. When static electricity discharge occurs with combustible vapors present, a fire or explosion may result while you're fueling your vehicle or equipment.
Intresting.. Now some observations and qustions:
I have observed, with my own eyes, a flash pan filled with diesel, a lit match tossed in said pan acted like it was being tossed on water. Fill the same pan with gasoline and WHOMP it ignights when a match is tossed, but the diesel put the match out.. More on this later.
Static electric sparks are dangerous where gasoline is involved due to the above, But answer this: How does shutting the engine off or leaving it running affect static build up? Your butt sliding on the vehicle seat, Your shoes on assorted surfaces yes, but the engine?
The promised more:
That test was run at ambient temp, say 70-80 degrees,, Heat Diesel to the boiling point and it WHOMPS too.
Besides it being the law to shut the engine down, suppose the running diesel engine developed an injector leak or came in with an injector leak. I know, diesels NEVER leak around the injectors or have any other high pressure fuel issues. Engine fires NEVER happen on diesel coaches, etc, etc.
Now you have high pressure diesel fuel being ejected in a mist which would probably be more flammable than a pan of diesel fuel.
Basically it just boils down to idling is unnecessary and all of the engine manufacturers recommend against it. Maybe it is true about teaching old dogs new tricks. :B
A quick search online of the major diesel engine manufacturers all say do not idle the engine for more than 5 minutes. Some of the engines now even have automatic shutdown timers to turn the engine off. They all talk about excessive engine wear, wasted fuel, decreased oil life, and increased air pollution caused by excessive idling.
Of course the biggest reason many still do it is....."but we have always done it this way."
Times have changed for gasoline and diesel engines and the old ways are no longer relevant.
Even tho the engines put out less vapors in normal operation, a fuel spill still does create vapors once it is on the ground.
A running engine produces some sparks and static electricity that could ignite the fumes from a nearby spill.
I find that it is not too difficult to turn my ignition key off, and then on again. The DW also always gets out of the vehicle during refueling, just in case. It is a good time to take the big dog for a walk.
On his Monaco coach he probably has the Comfort Control Center with covers furnace heat and the AC/heat pump units. If he has two AC units, it probably already has two temperature sensors that are fighting each other.
I have the Traveler on this coach, but getting new one and wondered about the Winegard Domed. I can get HD with Dish, but not sure of reception with domed compared to traveler.
As I mentioned, with my King Dome in-motion antenna it is NOT HD so the picture quality suffers. It also has a much smaller dish(12") compared to the full size Traveler dish antenna so the signal strength is weaker. I hated the King Dome as my ONLY satellite dish so I bought the Traveler and installed it on the roof also.
You not only would need a second thermostat, you would need a switch to turn one on and the other one off. The wiring would be sort of a nightmare.
Of course if you do not heat the living room, it may get too cold and then warming it up in the morning would probably use up any propane that you saved during the night.
Use an electric blanket and maybe a small electric heater in the bedroom and turn the living room temp down a little bit at night.