At willow tree which site type would you get if you had 3 children like we do!?
There is not much of any difference in sites. The ones right at the lake have a small hot tub. Otherwise they are all pretty much the same. Lagre and level. Closer to the lake will also be closer to the pool. Very nice quite place.
I have a 2011 Ford and although it did have an issue with the turbo, which Ford replaced under warranty, it is without doubt the best pick up I have ever owned. My turbo made a kind of a clanging sound at low rpm as though the waste gate was fluttering. The problem was resolved by replacing the turbo with one direct from the factory - Ford engineering told the dealer not to replace the turbo with one from parts but to wait for a new turbo which would be shipped direct from the factory. This is evidence to me that the problem was addressed with the turbo design and was limited to the 2011 production models.
By looking at this thread it looks like Ford still does not have a handle on this problem. Or there is a lot of old parts being put on up to this date?
Post #2 says he has all the updates and they are still replacing 1 turbo a month with updated turbo's. :E
Another turbo failure with updated parts, but from the above it looks like Ford might still be having problems with the updated parts?
I have no idea on how the 13's are doing. They are too new to see any failure trends. Only time will tell if this problem has been solved.
The first 2 post you ref. are c&c trucks which have a DIFFERENT turbo than the p/u trucks. Just saying.
WOW, touchy group here. Don't mean to offend any delicate sensibilities. I'm just a little amazed that so many of you are on the dealer's side when they try to rip us off, the buyer.
I realize we are talking RV's and not cars. Perhaps if the dealers were more like car dealers they would work more with the buyer and sell far more units. My dealers sales philosophy was to charge me MSRP if he gave me high book for my trade and to charge me wholesale if he gave me wholesale for my trade. Except he under-valued my trade by $5,000. I'd bet that if car dealers used this philosophy they wouldn't sell a thing.
Personally, I think Camping World/Avondale is lazy and wants to make a mint off of each sale. They can find another sucker.
So tell us what you would have considered a fair deal. What numbers would have made it work? Really the only numbers that matter is your trailer plus what $$? I go in knowing what I want to get for my trailer and how much boot I'm willing to give to get thier trailer, regardless of any book they may show me. The msrp does not matter. By the way, I don't shop Camping World for rv's beacause I don't want to be hounded by a salesman while browsing the lot.