....one thing I forgot to mention: early on when I 1st found water in the battery and propane containment canisters, I thought about why I had not ever seen water in these places before.
I came to the conclusion that a) we were only camping ~3 times a season max since 2010, so never had a need to look in/open the hatch but for 3 times a year; b) the water that was flooding in probably drained right into the camper structure and disappeared perhaps over a week or two.
So, a thought would be: even though we may not find water in these containment centers today, water could be getting in there during rains, draining quickly into your camper structure, and the left over film of water on canister floor is drying very rapidly (between rains)....hmmmm?
Bob: watering systems blast water almost straight up; that I'd be worried about :B
Nice work. I've thought about re-bedding some of the exterior fixtures using windshield mounting butyl, however, worry about removing the fixture when the housing would need to be replaced.
The RV caulking strips seem to dry out too quickly, because the rolls they come in have exposed edges when factory packed.
I would love to find high quality properly designed RV hatches and radius frames that will directly fit the current frame-ins in our camper walls. Anyone have any names, part numbers, anecdotes ?
Follow-up to our camper rot / water infil issues:
Just a heads-up to anyone owning a truck camper with exterior hatches (I suspect that this would be everyone with a camper):
-the style of hatch in the photo (this is ours to the propane containment) may be a persistent leaker when you have rains:
This is the hatch (and, our battery hatch: same style) that allowed water to leak into our Outfitter; water infil that nearly destroyed our camper.
History: I tried every mitigation I could devise (drilling holes at bottom of hatch door; placing a new rubber gasket; blocking the vent slots (not a good idea, but in desperation, I had to try it), re-seating and caulking the entire perimeter of the radius frames FROM THE INSIDE OF THE CONTAINMENT COMPARTMENT; and numerous other ideas, like canting camper to the propane hatch side and battery hatch side; etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc) and NOTHING I implemented will keep water out of my propane compartment or battery compartment. They flood inside compartments at every rain lasting more than about 45 minutes. Just this morning, I shoveled half an inch of rain water out of my large propane compartment (THANK GOD I had sealed all the seams of my battery and propane compartment containment containers, turning them nto swimming pools, or all my work removing rotted wood from and repairing this camper would have been for not !).
WATCH OUT and PAY ATTENTION to what hatch frame and door system you get on your new purchase, and do some serious investigating into your current hatch doors (all of them), or you could lose your camper to extensive water leaking and resultant catastrophic rot.
The problem appears to be:
1) door frame filling with water and over-spilling into compartment at bottom (drilling holes in door frame does not work effectively!);
2) the long/large hatch hinge extremely poorly designed, allows water to pour into the compartments (absolutely no mitigation possible on this frame hinge design!).
I have been relegated to tarping both hatches permanently (both when camper is in the immobile state in driveway AND camping). And, I pack huge bath towels into the compartments when driving if encountering rain.
These are photos of the 12 after Oregon Inlet (sand barrier mitigation, and road construction):
This is a photo of the 12 where the seawater is nearly at the road level (just inches away), during calm weather:
Here Dunes and I are breakfasting at the Blue Sea Cafe, in Lewes, Delaware:
Silversand reads about the history of Lewes, in the Cape Region; the site of the first European settlement in what today is Delaware. Founded in 1631, the initial small whaling colony was wiped out by Natives in 1632, and re colonized by a group of Dutch Mennonites in 1662. Skipping forward, the US built Fort Miles on Cape Henlopen, just south of Lewes; from Wiki, "It was one of the largest and most heavily armed coastal fortifications ever built."
A view of "Old Lewes" port from bridge (taken by Silverdunes):
Images around old Lewes:
Thanks Skip !! We are already north of the 45th, but appreciate your kind offer!
We did the entire Eastern Shore on the way north. We passed by the entrance to Assateague, however the wind and rain were sideways at the time.
Nice. I have the electronic navigational ENCs for the entire east coast; however, your recommend for that deep draft craft sounds pretty solid vis intracoastal nav!
....max sustained right at this moment is ~125 knots (Cat 4); looks like it will absolutely flatten Bermuda (I really hope it doesn't, but looks like the wall will go right over the Island!)...bad timing for your son, however, probability to approach the Eastern coast looks weak.
Gonzalo should REALLY stir up the Barrier Islands; hope the effects don't breach the Highway 12 mitigation! Also, the Canadian Maritimes will experience some very bad action, too.
....once on the island traveling south from Nags Head/Manteo (are you entering from the north? Or, Ocracoke side?), you may encounter water (brine) along certain stretches. This is dependent on tide (and wind/rain) conditions. This is on the stretch of 12 south or Oregon Inlet. Also, there is significant road re-construction going on between Oregon Inlet and Rodanthe where intermittent north/south traffic is sometimes stopped (not always), to allow alternating traffic to proceed; also some areas of road re-build are orange coned for a few miles, so take it easy there, too.
Also, go slow over the temporary bridge made up of weighted steel plates (I think it is called the new inlet bridge; someone correct me if I'm wrong).
When we left Rodanthe region for the North, we left at 5 AM to avoid any traffic issues...
diplo: t'was great to be in your rig, listening to your stories, etc...
Dunes and I walked through the extensive bike encampment (and, the bike accouterments installations). There were extensive bike representation at the OX E for sure....we made no photos of the bike encampment, unfortunately.
I hope you get that Jeep issue straightened out. Let me know how this is panning out for you.
Dunes and I were just discussing the Expo again last evening, and how much we enjoyed our get-together with both of you (and, your interesting lecture).
Got up early this morning to see the "red moon eclipse"; that was exciting. I wish my photo thereof had turned out better (shot without tripod).
S & D
Hi OBX !
Nice comprehensive overview of the OX-E (I'll borrow Jefe's acronym ;) )
The narrative was effective and straight to the point; love it!
T'was great to meet the "hardy" easterners (and, westerners) who braved every element known to man (the only thing missing was a tornado).
Can't wait to see more of your photos! We're still out on the OBX --enjoying 80F clear weather (just a bit breezy, but hey, that's the OBX).
Off to the sand and sea,
Sand & Dunes
*Silverdunes didn't buy that Earth Roamer; however, she really like that Tiger Bengal (a toss-up for price/value) !
....after a rather hectic, exciting and info-filled 1.5 days at Asheville, we decide to take a "shart brek" at the Outer Banks (OBX). The Hwy 12 running through the north sector of the OBX sand bar took a real beating this Fall, weathering several tropical depressions. Several sections of road were being re-built.
Our evening, camped 25 feet from Pamlico Sound, just north of Salvo:
I'm up at 5 AM, and in an hour, trekking the Atlantic side of the sand bar:
...destruction still evident along the sand bar near Rodanthe, where the water on the Sound side overwashed to the Atlantic side, this Fall:
...more to follow.
Sand & Dunes
Overland Expo East:
We arrived at the site Saturday; here we are with OBXcamper, BTGgrafix, La Dawn, Silverdunes (far left):
Great evening around fire, and getting ready for a heavy frost in the 20sF (29F when I made this photo at 6AM from truck camper section a few hours ago, Sunday):
Taken just ~10 minutes before sunrise this morning, fields heavy with frost:
I caught your overland report just before turning in for the night. Lots of interesting characters attending. Fun to read all the details of the adventure overland as you experienced it over that sunny weekend !
Thanks for the nightcap,