Just reread Navegator's comments and didn't understand much of it. It really has been quite simple for us. Truck gets the 180 day permit. If we left the camper there they would never know. We do always get all the permits at the border and have never and will not attempt on line as plans are always subject to change.
....this is indeed interesting. You are pretty confident that the Mex authorities wouldn't notice if the camper was off-board while you drive the pick-up truck around? I imagine that the sticker issuer does not make a photo of the rig upon entry (as a reference) ? But I imagine that Mexico is not that sophisticated.....yet.
....wow...talk about a "road less traveled" CF2! Great to see this part of the world, and in such spectacular photos (NatGeo level) ! The coyote crossing road signs are unique, yes?
Our cats eat wires of all types...go figure...
Andres Lopez Manuel Obrador, the front-runner PRD presidential candidate has hinted he will "make things easier for tourists to visit Mexico" (Whatever that means).
....LOL....its already incredibly easy to visit Mexico...just not with your portable house attached to the back of your vehicle :B
FWIW, we have a few Canadian friends that do the above and love it. I think you'll be surprised at the number of Canadians that have the exact same setup going on. Even the Yucatan part, but in that case they currently fly down and stay.
Thanks J & J. It would be interesting for this cohort to form a "Thread" in RVnet so we could sync up :B
Thanks Moisheh. The near absence of actual truck camper experience is loud (with the exception of 1 forum member so far: Mike Jin CO) !
We'll let this Thread ride, and see how many Mexico truck camper respondents reply....over time.
On edit: ...I can appreciate your advice on the 10 year applying to the motorized RV for sure...and the complications vis-a-vis a truck camper rig.
I agree, a condo is definitely not the same. Folks in them don't sit outside and chat like in a RV park. It would be harder to get to know anyone. Good luck!
...the condo we always rent has regular "breakfast with the owners, all you can eat, with bottomless coffee", and regular "5-7 evenings", and regular "yoga every morning", and a "dance evening" once a month, and "meet and greets"...this is in north Florida. It depends on the condo you rent: is it in a resort area (of Arizona or Florida) ? Or, just a building full of residents (workies).
We're in the process of looking for a tow trailer (this could be just as easily a 5th, too) to install in the southern region as a "base camp" for us and our truck camper rig (the truck camper will be for off-roading to various remote sites to boondock, from time-to-time; and for picking up groceries at the home base). We'll do this in the southern US until our health insurance costs climb out of reach (we're Canadian snowbirders heading into our early 60s). We investigated buying a fixed trailer at a fixed park(s), but this could be fraught with too many negatives (selling it eventually, long distance; increasing park fees; 12 months of rent opposed to 4~5 months RV lot fees; growing out of the fixed park (what if we grow not to like the park?); permanent electric monthly fees for fixed unit; etc, etc, etc). We found that many RV parks will store a towable/mobile trailer for peanuts on site for 7 or 8 months. And, If we wanted to keep the trailer, we could haul it back home eventually (or, sell it easier than a huge fixed park model with all the mobile home park $obligations baggage).
When our US side health insurance climbs out of reach, we plan to rent an inexpensive condo (as a base camp so to speak) in extreme south Mexico for 4 to 6 months, bringing along our truck camper rig (to off-road to Mayan ruins in the Yucatan outback), by dead-heading it across the USA (no matter what our age, it won't cost much in health insurance crossing the USA to Mexico in a week, from Canada).
Some years ago, at least 5 or 6, we got a 10 year TIP(?) at Laredo but I don't recall doing any paperwork on it. They stuck it on the kitchen window. The same year we got the 180 day windshield tag for our truck as always and have gotten them every year sinc. We have never pointed out the 10 year and they have never looked for it since.
That's interesting. However, I'm unaware of the implications, but I come up with a few questions:
-are the 6 month TIPs and 10 year RV/trailer permits stickers physically removed from vehicles/RVs by Mexican authorities when they exit Mexico?
-is your 10 year RV permit sticker (gotten by you ~6 years ago) still valid even today (ie. you still have 4 years left on "it") ?
-if a truck camper rig gets 2 temporary stickers (1 vehicle TIP and 1 RV 10 year permit), can the truck camper be removed from the pick-up in Mexico for the duration of the stay (6 months) ?
Truck campers in Mexico I think could be a rare occurrence, so it will take a while to gather real experiences. I know that a handful of members have brought their truck camper rigs into Mexico recently (by recently, I mean the last 2 or 3 years).
So....so far: 1 truck camper has been stickered with a 10 year, but some time ago; and the truck carrying it was given a 6 month TIP, correct?
The other problem comes when you get stopped for a roadside check of documents. If the officer notices you are driving a standard pickup that has a RV TIP then questions will be asked.
...good point....if the entire rig gets stickered as an RV, separating them would be asking for trouble...(not a position I want to be in, for sure)
.....Why would you want to leave a nice camper in Mexico. It will rot!
....LOL. The 4 walls and roof are made from aluminum structure, fiberglass and TPO, and XPS. I've already replaced most of the tub cladding and under-wings with impregnated marine plywood...what could rot :B
The camper (dismounted from truck) would be stored inside a secure building, protected from the elements.
The reason why I don't want to haul the camper back and forth, is because our destination is to the absolute furthest corner of Mexico one could possibly go. Its easier (and safer) to shoot back and forth without the camper on back...
...yes. Reading through the FAQ in this Forum vis 10 year RV temp importing, and 6 month vehicle TIP brings up the question: is a truck camper rig considered an RV ? Is the camper part of the truck camper "rig" temp imported under the 10 year, and the pick-up truck temp imported under the 6 month TIP...and, if the truck camper rig is considered a "vehicle" under the 6 month TIP, can the camper part be left in Mexico (ie. separated from the truck), when we cross back into the US (say, for 6 months)....then return and mate the 2 parts once again.
That's an accurate description of the Alde underfloor combo system, which provides a very even but relatively slow responding heat flow. But the Truma Combi is different, and much faster responding, providing the full 14000 BTU/hr output within minutes (20000 BTU/hr for the more powerful Comfort Plus version).
And that's actual thermal output, whereas traditional RV furnaces list BTU rates using gas consumption value where 20k BTU/hr gas consumption provides about 14k usable output at 70% average cycle efficiency.
...that was my experience, too, observing the Truma 1st hand (on a very, very cold day!) in a pop-up truck camper. The truma is extremely efficient (something like 96% efficient). It blows the doors of any of the dinosaur RV furnace technology out there today.
BundutecUSA truck campers come with Truma combination units. Their campers are made in Iowa.
....absolutely correct. I got a personal tour of a BunduTec truck camper (with the Truma installed and working), by the camper designer/maker, Rory Willett, at the 1st Overland East rally, near Asheville.
Excellent install. Super nice camper. Rory's a very nice guy, too. This is the future of water heating and furnaces in the RV world in North America. I also met the North American rep for Truma products, and let me tell you, they are aggressively moving their technology into the North American RV genre.
Hi Bill ! :B
I've had the Phantom 3 StANDARD FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND LOVE IT. Since you can get one for about $450 why would you spend $900 for the Phantom 4 simply to get 4K video that makes no difference on u'r non 4k TV?
1) the Phantom 4 with 4k video capability would have little appeal to someone with a Phantom 3 Pro with 4k, other than the P4 4k would have far more anti-collision sensors with the companion anti-collision capability. Now, jumping "up to" a P4 4k from a Phantom 3 Standard is a value judgment: ...do you have a 4k capable TV? Will you be uploading your 4k video to Youtube 4k for people to watch Youtube on their vastly inferior computer monitors not capable of 4k ? Are you a professional delivering 4k to a client, with 4k kiosks and/or clients who are standardized on 4k?
2) as far as I can tell, the 4k served up in the P3 Pro and P4 4k looks like the quality of the P3 1080p at 60, so with those birds, why even shoot at 4096x2160p 30? Also, all the cameras appear to be the same technology from P3 to P4 (both 4k and 1080p models), so the benefits would be realized with step up in the flight technology realm, only.
3) in my case, neither the P3 Pro nor P4 at 4k cameras would deliver anything close to the CMOS sensor in the P4 Pro. The P4 Pro camera is a quantum-leap better on the 4k video plane and still image plane with both that huge 1 inch sensor, the mechanical shutter for 20 megapixels stills, and the big one, the new H265 codec in the P4 Pro streaming data capability at far higher bit rates onto card (BTW: one can natively utilize H265 encoded data in Primiere Pro CC NLE software, unlike the Mac editing suite that needs it to be transcoded). Here's the really big one: the glass in the camera in the P4 Pro has a much narrower FOV (field of view) generating nearly undistorted images and video at 84°, more favorable for pro work and aerial mapping work. I'll be using primarily for stills work, so this camera delivers what a high-end DSLR will deliver, without the bulk/weight of a DSLR...the 4096 × 2160 24/25/30/48/50p is just a bonus....
....I had been looking at consumer drones passively, since the Phantom 3 model year...however, more recently (over the past ~11 months) i've been studying intensely the various manufacturer's higher end consumer drone models (Phantom 4, Phantom 4 Pro and +, the Mavic Pro.... also, the Q500 4k and Typhoon H models from Yuneec...and, the Phantom look-alike, the $750 Autel X Star Premium, with 4k video.
The primary reason for my interest is aerial photography and videography. So, that pretty well rules out everything but the Phantom 4 Pro+ (this has the built-in Android visualization device screen-tuned for outdoor brightness, in the remote controller).
I really love the Mavic compact concept, however, the camera quality just isn't close to what I would require (I need a 1 inch CMOS sensor, and mechanical shutter; the mechanical shutter is for aerial stills).
The thing that anyone (including me) should be aware of, is the early adoption / 1st release of bleeding-edge drone birds...I tend to let new model releases mature a little, so that all the firm-ware bugs get resolved. I think that the Mavic started shipping back in early November....and the latest Phantom 4 Pro units have just started shipping (early December...around the 2nd or 3rd). So, I personally will wait till late spring to "spring" for Phantom Pro (when the + Android built-in is a bit more mature).
I'm a member of Phantom Pilots forum. That is an excellent place to get involved with, in order to get a detailed feel for both experts' and new pilot experiences with the various levels of drones.
Closing, if anyone is looking at drones that compete with the DJI line-up somewhat, have a look at the $700 ~ $750 Autel X Star Premium, with 4k video. This one can hold its own against the Phantom 3 Pro.
This could go in back of a 2500/3500 SRW and be setup for tools for tradesman type. My brother is a carpenter and looking at moving from a Van back to a pickup. Problem with pickup is you have to put a cap on it and everything just gets tossed in back of bed, no order, can't stand up inside it, etc.
...I also would refer you to the SpaceKap company for the trades, for a large truck camper sized clamshell unit for pick up trucks here-->
SpaceKap has been making these things for at least 20 years; these can also easily work as a truck camper (I think the above model is in the $5500 range).
On edit: these huge clam-shell truck camper-like units can be bought used in nearly mint condition for $2600 Canadian dollars (that's about what? $35 US dollars ?). I just spotted a used one selling on Kijiji.ca
If the question is just any old beach that you might encounter, the answer is: Don't do it.
...ya. You'd better know the sand (and tide) dynamics of the beach you want to drive on. The best, is to ask someone who regularly drives that particular "stretch of sand" with a truck camper rig preferably, first.
We've had no problems with stock 245/75 R16 all-terrain tires on the beaches we've driven on the East Coast (this includes driving the loooong St Augustine Florida stretch with the truck camper rig).
I've since gone with slightly wider tires with a taller side-wall (Goodyear Duratrac).
Glad you got the truck back.
I have 3 anti-theft measures on our "truck", none of which I'd outline in a Forum.
What always worried me, was the value of the truck (ours is a 2004, in absolute mint condition). I had to have it re-evaluated for insurance purposes, because without the re-evaluation, we would only get 10.3 cents on the dollar in compensation. So, we'd only get about $8000 if stolen, for a mint 2004 truck, with very, very low miles; and would have to pay over $79,000 CAD for a replacement.
I also had the camper re-evaluated, too.
My camper is about ten years old now and i'll have to join the chorus in saying customer service has been very good.
...I've got ya beat; ours is 11 years old (and in ~4 months, 12 years old) :B
We love our camper !