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RE: Nervous about ending up with a mass produced junk box.

Now getting a non Amish crew would have merits lol. What a bunch of hacks the Amish. They need to stick to barns and corn cribs. . I live in the middle of forty thousand plain folk, Amish and Mennonite, in PA. Many are craftsmen, most do extremely high quality work. ALL of the hard furniture in our house was made locally, some is new, some is decades old, and still looks and works new. No reason to think that it won't last for the next hundred years, as it's built better than it was a century ago. Back then they didn't Kreg screw and urethane glue joints together, or have the finishes available that last for decades without yellowing or pealing. When it comes to the quality issues plaguing the industry, it's all about who is running the show. You pay peanuts, and demand that everybody run around like idiots, the work looks like it was done by monkeys on meth. The fact that your RV was slammed together by a 19 year old drug addict and high school drop out from Elkhart, or a 60 year old Amish church elder from shipshewana, is meaningless. They are both under the gun to smash the thing together as fast as possible. Right or wrong, well done, or pathetic, is of no concern to management. OTOH, if you own a company, and look at every product as a statement about who you are, you end up with stunningly high quality products. The Amish shed manufacturing business in this area is one example. You have Amish company owners using design softwear, and CAD/CAM optimizing saws to precut all their sheet goods, plywood,T-1-11, etc.... They then construct sheds that are extremely well built, and precise. Not a nail out of place, crisp, straight edges on everything, and delivered for 20-30% more than you would spend clubbing the same thing together as a DIY project. If another group of Amish decide to take a shot at opening a new RV manufacturer, they could build an amazing product, at a competitive price. It's been done before, and who knows, given the current environment in the industry, maybe it's time for another one.
soren 09/20/17 06:00am Beginning RVing
RE: Nervous about ending up with a mass produced junk box.

Lots of good advice here. We have owned ten RVs in a long stretch of being addicted to camping. I would strongly second the buying used aspect. I would also recommend that you buy it from a private sale, and from the original owner. Nothing cuts through the bull twinkies more than being able to look the original owner in the eye, when you discuss things like leaks and other problems. Second, never trust an opinion from an owner, or member here, with regard to quality. First, there is the data VS anecdote value of asking "what do you think of your brand X RV?" The guy you are speaking to might of had a relatively trouble free experience. The next RV that rolled off the line, after his was built, might of been the biggest piece of garbage ever built. Second, a lot of folks have very selective memories, and a bit of an ego to deal with. They might have had a history of less than satisfactory experiences, but they tend to "forget" the bad times, and even look at the past with rose colored glasses, since telling you that they bought a POS is like admitting that they failed.They might have had a history of less than satisfactory experiences, but they tend to "forget" the bad times, and even look at the past with rose colored glasses, since telling you that they bought a POS is like admitting that they failed. Good luck, it's a tough issue to deal with. No one in their right mind is going to admit on a public forum that they screwed up and bought a junk box RV.... Problem is, many have but won't admit it.....:S Nail on the head, my friend. The wife and I have a term we coined, and use between ourselves. We call it "Fleetwood syndrome", and it involves avoiding the truth, or even flat our lying about your choices, since it's too hard for your ego to deal with the fact that you made bad ones. Almost fifteen years ago, when I was younger and dumber, we wanted a modest travel trailer and found that a Fleetwood Wilderness seemed to suit our needs. We asked on the forum and got 4-5 responses from Fleetwood owners who claimed that they were simply the greatest TT ever built. Boy did we get scammed following that advice. It came with a two year warranty, and it was nothing but problems for that two years. At the end of the 24 months the entire floor was rotted out, since they used defective cargo doors that funneled rainwater into the walls and under vinyl floor, completely undetected. Fleetwood denied the claim, based on a lack of maintenance. Truth was, it was not a maintenance issue. They knew of the defective doors and were hoping to burn up the clock, and deny claims, to avoid the huge cost of rebuilding countless trailers. There we were, two years into owning a pathetic POS, and it was rotten to the point of being totaled. So much for all the great reviews here. In the end, it was purchased from a small family run dealer who was battling on our behalf. After an ugly fight, the owner of the dealership ended up in a screaming match with a Fleetwood VP, and asked if they wanted to come grab all of their junk off his lot? He got them to pick the thing up, lift the body off and rebuild all the rot, at no charge. We got it back and dumped it, ASAP, before the next disaster reared it's head. Bottom line? Never trust glowing reviews here. Many are 100% true, and many are nothing but steaming piles of bull twinkies. Problem is, you don't know which is which.
soren 09/11/17 05:15pm Beginning RVing
RE: Coach Net vs Good Sam

The point I was trying to make about CN is that people have no place to vent on poor service from CN therefore less posts about bad service if it exists. Sorry if it went over your head. Second the post refer to a troll inferring that I was an apologist for CW so I set the record straight. AND yes I have found a great repair shop in Syracuse. MAYS TRUCK SERVICE. They have been wonderful. Lastly the post was not meant to be snarky if you feel that way that is on you Hilarious, that you find that your deep prose would of somehow gone "over my head". Sorry, but you have a way to go before that's happening. If you don't find telling somebody to go complain on a non-existent forum to be the definition of "snarky", you really need to brush up on your vocabulary.
soren 09/11/17 04:55pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Coach Net vs Good Sam

With the horror stories of GS? Been with coach net years, used 3 times, one signed a form they had changed a tire. The other two the driver said nothing to sign they have already been paid. The last one was July when I lost a high pressure pump in my diesel TV just west of Wolf Creek Pass. They dispatched a tow truck & a 1 ton dully for my 5W. The 5W was put in a camp site near the repair shop and the truck to the shop. I asked the drive what it would have cost if I had not had insurance? 800+ about 1.5 hrs from break down till they had both vehicle to my location. Well done CN. Why didn't you post your compliment on the Coachnet site? Why not posted on coach net? The question was asked here plus I didn't know they had one. Be happy to post there but you need to belong to most forums to post, can't belong to every forum on the net. PS: Quick search and no forum, maybe a link? Don 't bother continuing down this rabbit hole. Some "members" on here are pretty talented apologists for any CW disaster, and you are just feeding a troll. I've had CN for over a decade, and it's not only a relative bargain, but they are there when I need them, and it's been nothing but satisfaction. OTOH, I can't count how many, "I have GSRS and I CAN'T BELIEVE how badly they just screwed me" threads that end up here, on a regular basis. I am far from an apologist for CW. Just ask them or check my previous posts. However the poster who was "complimenting" Coachnet started out by bashing GSRA. My point is people dissatisfied with GSRA will join just to complain about the service received from GSRA and GSRA will respond to their complaint. MY opinion is very few people will join here to complain about Coachnet. Therefore you will see most dissatisfied GSRA customers making a post here but very few dissatisfied Coachnet customers. IT could be Coachnet is better than GSRA but to compare them based upon the number of complaints here is not fair. On the other hand Camping World service is absolutely horrid and I am still madder than Hades about the service and response I received from CW specially the arrogant service manger at their Syracuse location. I will bad mouth them every chance I get until I feel I have evened the score plus interest. They "cheated" me out of about $450.00 on the poor service work I purchased from them. I let everyone know as often as I can. I have posted frequently about this service and will continue to do so however I can separate the entities. So please before calling me an apologist do your due diligence. No need to do any "due diligence" as your story really isn't part of this thread, and I find anybody digging through another members post history to be a bit creepy, to put it charitably. That said, making a snarky post, directing a member to a CN forum to complain, is more than a bid odd from a supposed CW hater, no? What's next, a glowing review for the Syracuse CW on "RVsevicereviews.com"? On a serious note, I hope you found a good alternative for service in the Syracuse area? Given my past experience, when it comes to upstate, there is no danger of my rig ending up in a service bay at Wilkins, RV One, or CW. That whole region is full of aggressive and shady dealers.
soren 09/11/17 05:23am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Coach Net vs Good Sam

With the horror stories of GS? Been with coach net years, used 3 times, one signed a form they had changed a tire. The other two the driver said nothing to sign they have already been paid. The last one was July when I lost a high pressure pump in my diesel TV just west of Wolf Creek Pass. They dispatched a tow truck & a 1 ton dully for my 5W. The 5W was put in a camp site near the repair shop and the truck to the shop. I asked the drive what it would have cost if I had not had insurance? 800+ about 1.5 hrs from break down till they had both vehicle to my location. Well done CN. Why didn't you post your compliment on the Coachnet site? Why not posted on coach net? The question was asked here plus I didn't know they had one. Be happy to post there but you need to belong to most forums to post, can't belong to every forum on the net. PS: Quick search and no forum, maybe a link? Don 't bother continuing down this rabbit hole. Some "members" on here are pretty talented apologists for any CW disaster, and you are just feeding a troll. I've had CN for over a decade, and it's not only a relative bargain, but they are there when I need them, and it's been nothing but satisfaction. OTOH, I can't count how many, "I have GSRS and I CAN'T BELIEVE how badly they just screwed me" threads that end up here, on a regular basis.
soren 09/10/17 06:47pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Nervous about ending up with a mass produced junk box.

Lots of good advice here. We have owned ten RVs in a long stretch of being addicted to camping. I would strongly second the buying used aspect. I would also recommend that you buy it from a private sale, and from the original owner. Nothing cuts through the bull twinkies more than being able to look the original owner in the eye, when you discuss things like leaks and other problems. Second, never trust an opinion from an owner, or member here, with regard to quality. First, there is the data VS anecdote value of asking "what do you think of your brand X RV?" The guy you are speaking to might of had a relatively trouble free experience. The next RV that rolled off the line, after his was built, might of been the biggest piece of garbage ever built. Second, a lot of folks have very selective memories, and a bit of an ego to deal with. They might have had a history of less than satisfactory experiences, but they tend to "forget" the bad times, and even look at the past with rose colored glasses, since telling you that they bought a POS is like admitting that they failed. Good luck, it's a tough issue to deal with.
soren 09/10/17 06:37pm Beginning RVing
RE: Bathroom faucet repair

Ours also leaks onto the counter, especially at the back. https://i.imgur.com/86QOCpml.jpg I have a stick house faucet that looks like it will fit but am reluctant to give up the shower attachment. I took it all apart a few years ago and replaced the O rings. I think it improved for a year or so. I do remember it was quite complicated and tricky to put back together. I hope you will find a better fix and post it here! I wonder if you could install a kitchen faucet with a sprayer and modify the sprayer with a shower head. Just saying ... Probably not. Typical two handle kitchen faucet is 8" on center, bath is 4", so stuffed into that corner on a 45* angle, my guess is that it wouldn't work, since it's too long. Might be a great idea in other similar applications, though.
soren 09/10/17 06:22pm Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: Almost head on

Well, this should all get "better" now with the soon to come driverless otr rigs in large close trains. Think how much safer that will be. Sorry, but I'm not personally liking the thought of any computer aided non human driven vehicle of any size, and am hard pressed to imagine how this is somehow a safer alternative to current vehicles. Considering the rv in this article, I'd say the driver managed to do the nearly impossible given the circumstances, and fortunately no loss of life. Your ancestor in the early 1900s: "Sorry, I'm not personally liking the though of my love ones being actual PASSENGERS on one of those crazy flying machines. I am hard pressed to imagine a device that does little but scare the cattle, and provide a way for those "barnstormer" hucksters to distract our youth, can be a safe alternative to our fine system of horses, mules, wagons and buggies" See a pattern here?
soren 08/24/17 10:07am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Chinese Vehicles

Volvo is owned by Geely from China. Jaguar is owned by Tata from India. Both are still based and built in Sweden and Britain. Both Geely and Tata have put a lot of money into these companies and their cars have never been better. They may be better but J.D. Power just reported both at the bottom of the list on initial quality. https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/most-trouble-prone-car-brands-jd-power-associates.html/?ref=YF&yptr=yahoo Heck no, they are about as far from "never been better" as you can get. Back when Volvo was building the one and two series bricks, they were about about as bulletproof as a car can get. They have been declining ever since. Now they are no different than other eurotrash brands. Overpriced, over-complicated, unreliable and expensive to repair and maintain. When it comes to the Jag, and Rover brands, that isn't worth even bothering to respond to. Jags and Rovers are nothing but leased trophy trash. You spend $800 a month for a few years, and let the dealer come get it, every few weeks when it dead again. They give you a fancy loaner, you think you're important, and you sign up for another one at the end. You would need to be a fool to actually outright own one, especially after the warranty is done. Jalopnik has a great running series by of their writers, who owns a slightly used Rover. If there is a bigger piece of sheet on the planet, it would be tough to find. Interesting you feel that way since they were all Ford owned companies not that long ago. I have a Land Rover and after more than 100,000 miles, no real "issues" to speak of. I'm sure you do.
soren 08/23/17 09:09pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Chinese Vehicles

Volvo is owned by Geely from China. Jaguar is owned by Tata from India. Both are still based and built in Sweden and Britain. Both Geely and Tata have put a lot of money into these companies and their cars have never been better. They may be better but J.D. Power just reported both at the bottom of the list on initial quality. https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/most-trouble-prone-car-brands-jd-power-associates.html/?ref=YF&yptr=yahoo Heck no, they are about as far from "never been better" as you can get. Back when Volvo was building the one and two series bricks, they were about about as bulletproof as a car can get. They have been declining ever since. Now they are no different than other eurotrash brands. Overpriced, over-complicated, unreliable and expensive to repair and maintain. When it comes to the Jag, and Rover brands, that isn't worth even bothering to respond to. Jags and Rovers are nothing but leased trophy trash. You spend $800 a month for a few years, and let the dealer come get it, every few weeks when it dead again. They give you a fancy loaner, you think you're important, and you sign up for another one at the end. You would need to be a fool to actually outright own one, especially after the warranty is done. Jalopnik has a great running series by of their writers, who owns a slightly used Rover. If there is a bigger piece of sheet on the planet, it would be tough to find. All have greatly improved sales dramatically since leaving Ford. Jaguar/ LR especially . Ford would want them back but not now. Improved sales and improved quality, reliability, and durability can often have no relationship with each other. Marketing is a wonderful thing, Getting a product placement with the Kardashians, or a big ad budget for placement in luxury magazines, is apparently a lot more important that building things like air suspensions that don't need thousands of dollars of repair work on a reoccurring basis.
soren 08/23/17 09:08pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Chinese Vehicles

Volvo is owned by Geely from China. Jaguar is owned by Tata from India. Both are still based and built in Sweden and Britain. Both Geely and Tata have put a lot of money into these companies and their cars have never been better. They may be better but J.D. Power just reported both at the bottom of the list on initial quality. https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/most-trouble-prone-car-brands-jd-power-associates.html/?ref=YF&yptr=yahoo Heck no, they are about as far from "never been better" as you can get. Back when Volvo was building the one and two series bricks, they were about about as bulletproof as a car can get. They have been declining ever since. Now they are no different than other eurotrash brands. Overpriced, over-complicated, unreliable and expensive to repair and maintain. When it comes to the Jag, and Rover brands, that isn't worth even bothering to respond to. Jags and Rovers are nothing but leased trophy trash. You spend $800 a month for a few years, and let the dealer come get it, every few weeks when it dead again. They give you a fancy loaner, you think you're important, and you sign up for another one at the end. You would need to be a fool to actually outright own one, especially after the warranty is done. Jalopnik has a great running series by of their writers, who owns a slightly used Rover. If there is a bigger piece of sheet on the planet, it would be tough to find.
soren 08/23/17 03:39pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Holiday Rambler full wall slide issues

I have a 2016 HR Endevor with the full wall slide, in and out dozens of times with no issue. Seems there is a lot of discussion at campsites about full wall slides but I don't think there are any more issues with these slides than any other slides as far as known issues. While shopping for a used class A we went to all the giant dealers in the Orlando through Ft. Myers area, and looked at hundreds of rigs. I stopped even bothering to walk into anything with a full wall slide, since it was common to see unacceptable damage inside. Everything from trim ripped off the slide edges, to gouges in the floor (and even a ceiling or two, believe it or not) obvious water stains, and structural issues, like laughably sagging slide headers.. So, I'm obviously not of the belief that they are no less of an issue than smaller slides.
soren 08/23/17 07:21am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Van as a TV

I remember being a kid in the 70s. Prior to the SUV obsession, it was common to go for a bike ride in a campground, and notice that a pretty significant percentage of the tow vehicles were vans. I have owned, and driven a few with my business, and they can be pretty addictive to own. Once you get used to where all the corners are, you really appreciate the short nose, maneuverability, and a huge, dry, secure storage area. Sadly, I think a whole lot of families are currently passing up on great tow vehicles, since they just are not "cool enough" for many fashion obsessed folks today. Better to be driving an Escalade or King Ranch, since it impressive, that a lightly used van, that costs a third as much, as does a better job. Last fall we hit a state park camground during a big gathering from one of the local mega- churches. There were 50-60 families there, most with at least four kids. The majority of the families had full sized window vans, and older pop-up campers. Many of the vans were from a local used truck dealer who specializes in window vans for churches, and big families. This is a place where you can get a nearly new tow vehicle for less that a small, new, stripped out mini-SUV. It looked a lot like how things were while camping in the 1970's. Not a single young family with a $40K 35' trailer they use a few times a year, Pulled by a $70K Diesel truck they should of never bought in the first place, since together, both of these choices come with a $1000+ a month mortgage, on depreciating, needless toys.
soren 08/23/17 06:56am Tow Vehicles
RE: Almost head on

I just wish that car/motorhome drivers had to go through the same training as commercial drivers. I work driving motorhomes for a dealer and had to get my commercial license. The training would be an eyeopener for the average driver. Slam the truckers all you want but I spent 30 years as a cop and saw car drivers doing dumber stuff than the truckers. Pull my toy hauler across the country and you'll see what I mean. Not buying it in the least. We live near a major, overloaded truck route that is a four lane surface street, with huge traffic counts, cross streets, and lights. Hundreds of 18 wheelers an hour. Unfortunately, I'm on this road way too much, and have a lot of free time, while stuck in traffic, with nothing to do but watch the whole game. There are clearly professional truckers in the bunch, but a significant minority of the group are clowns. Clowns who tailgate so severely that they couldn't stop in time if their life depended on it. Clowns who are yakking on cell phones as they drive. Heck it's great to see a clueless clown with an autoshift rig. I've watched in awe as one clown went stoplight to stoplight, and autoshifted through eight gears with one hand on the GPS buttons, and another on a burger. That is some master's level clownsmanship right there. I was actually in the motorhome watching that show, I had two hands on the wheel as I stayed with him from light to light. Clowns who don't pay attention to basics, like the fact that they need to be heading straight,but are actually in a right turning lane. They only figure it out after running a half mile in the right turn lane, having passed eight signs, and ran over eight right turn arrows painted on the road. Next we all have to wait as traffic comes to a halt, as they attempt to merge left with 75' of big rig into a straight only lane. Clowns who block the box at intersections. Clowns who cause lots and lots of accidents, usually just minor ones that jamb up the road for an hour or two, but fatalities are pretty common too. Nope, the whole "professional trucker" claim no longer is valid. Are the majority competent? sure. Is there a significant minority, of who knows 20,30,40% that are clowns? Absolutely. It only takes reading the annual report for one of the big carriers, and read language about how they have finally cut turnover to less that 100% a year, to understand that trucking companies go through butts in the seat like you and I go through paper towels, and a lot of those seats are filled by clowns. My son got his degree in Safety Science. As he was coming to the end of his final year, he had a professor who had ties to the industry and was really pushing him hard to interview with some of the big names in trucking. I really pushed him hard to stay far away. He got a great job in another industry, but still deals with a small fleet of truck drivers as part of his duties. The other day, after another company accident, and another driver who was fired over a drug test, I asked him if he still thinks about his chance to go with a big national carrier. He just laughs, and says "I can't imagine what a special circle of He## that must be?"
soren 08/22/17 09:50pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Bathroom faucet repair

If it is leaking on the vanity top rather than dripping it is most likely o-rings on the valve stems. Take it apart then head to the hardware store. Also try cleaning your aerator, if it is plugged it will create back pressure on your stem seals and possibly push water through. I love the posts that assume you have a poor quality non repairable faucet. My 2008 original equipment bath faucet is a quality piece. Sure they are the same quality, after all trail-lite by R-vision was a quality coach builder just like Carriage. I'm sure your Carriage was an entry level, low cost, weekend grade, ultra-lite built with the lightest, thinnest materials, and full of low end commodity parts, like chromed plastic faucets, and 4MM luan as the thickest structural panel in the whole rig, right? Hum, maybe this is a bit out of your wheelhouse? As a former Trail-Lite owner, and admirer of Carriage rigs, I'm trying hard not to laugh at this. If you built a Trail-Lite of that era to Carriage standards, and left it on the same frame and suspension, it would literally droop at the ends until the bumper drags, and the springs would collapse. Not even apples and oranges here.
soren 08/21/17 07:03pm Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: Bathroom faucet repair

If you're going to throw it away, you may as well tell him to go big and just buy a new trailer. Never hurts to just change the rubber O rings and learn something. Have you ever disassembled one of these half pound, all plastic pieces of chrome plated garbage? Probably not, since many of them are just glued together and unrepairable. They are simply not worth plaguing yourself with. They can't cost the trailer manufacturer more than five bucks a piece, and every time they break, the parts are way more than the POS is worth. A decent, sale priced faucet from any big box store is a far better way to handle this issue.
soren 08/21/17 06:50pm Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: Question for anyone familiar with Custer State Park in SD.

I have to jump in on this one. Yes, Custer is a beautiful park but they have another racket going on for money. I was traveling from Rushmore to Windcave and Google Maps took us through the edge of the park. Map shows road is a through route. First time we hit a gate/ranger station, we were charged $20. I said we were just driving to Wind Cave, not visiting Custer. He replied, "Yep, we need to send Google a thank you note. That will be $20." I asked if I could turn around and go another route and he said too late, I had already driven through the park. Did not leave a good taste in my mouth to say the least. Who put's a gate on a through road and after you don't have a chance to turn around? Traveled 48 states and countless state and national parks and never saw that anywhere else. Sad first impression because I read so many good things on here about Custer. I can think of numerous places where this can occur. I have spent a day four wheeling in Moab, then had to pay the NP entrance fee to continue on the trail, and drive on Arches NP dirt, to the highway. Literally a couple of miles of unmaintained dirt track for $20. You can end up in the same situation in the Badlands NP, when you leave Rt 90 and decide to loop through the badlands on what look to be SD state highways. Smooth sailing on a secondary SD. highway until you hit the national park toll booth. It's not the park's fault, or issue, that you decided to use a secondary state park road to get where you are going. It is actually possible to drive straight thru Custer SP without a pass, on RT 16, as long as you do not stop to use any park facilities. Oddly, Mapquest doesn't show the route you discuss, but google does, and boy did they blow that one. One of those roads they recommend, (playhouse) is gravel and nothing I would want to be on with anything bigger that a pickup truck. Bottom line is that you can be bitter till your last breath, but there is nobody to blame but Google for suggesting that route in the first place. The park volunteer was right, it's google leading you to the toll booth, and he can't let you pass for free. Google just got me the other day. It told me of a Subway shop four blocks east of my location. I headed east, and appeared to be in a fairly tight residential area. What I didn't know is that I was on a toll bridge ramp, with no way to get off, and no warning before the last cross street. I literally drove four blocks and paid $8 for a bridge that was unmarked, with no "last exit before toll" signs anywhere. I wasn't happy, but it could of been worse, if I had the motorhome it would of been $24.
soren 08/21/17 06:35pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: KOA

Yea burn $200 of fuel for the day and then the campsite costs $10 too much? wow I see what you did there. Yer' tryin' to introduce them tricky maths to confusacate the issue. I never falls fur that! Seriously though, a trip to a tax free state, with gas at 10% less than neighboring states, by the time you add it up, an overpriced campground really isn't a deal breaker. Now if we are talking about ocean area campgrounds, it can be a bit shocking, but it beats paying 3x as much for a nearby hotel. This is a bit off topic but.....there is one bargain on the Delaware coast....Delaware seashore state park.....very inexpensive...not much in amenities other than full hookups, bathhouses and laundry...but walking distance to the beach! Hey, you need to lower your voice.......... no need to let everybody know :) We spent four days there earlier this month. What a great place to enjoy the beach. A five minute walk to the water, and $5 a night more than our State Parks here in PA. Two interesting observations. first, at least half the rigs had PA tags. Second, if that place doesn't suit you, the new park down in West Ocean City is only 2-1/2 times the cost, at $125/night, LOL
soren 08/21/17 05:34pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: KOA

Yea burn $200 of fuel for the day and then the campsite costs $10 too much? wow I see what you did there. Yer' tryin' to introduce them tricky maths to confusacate the issue. I never falls fur that! Seriously though, a trip to a tax free state, with gas at 10% less than neighboring states, by the time you add it up, an overpriced campground really isn't a deal breaker. Now if we are talking about ocean area campgrounds, it can be a bit shocking, but it beats paying 3x as much for a nearby hotel.
soren 08/21/17 03:33pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: KOA

$60 a night is a bargain compared to what some campgrounds in the Northeast are charging. Some of the Jellystone's, one in Gardiner NY and another in Quarryville PA charge more than $100/night in July and August. That's pretty crazy. I live just up the road from Quarryville. You can get a lot closer to the center of the action, in the Amish country, at places like Country Acres, in Paradise, for $40 bucks less. Kind of like the KOA in Watkins Glen NY. We ended up there with friends, on a fall weekend. The campground is nothing special, nor is the area. The friends made the reservation, and I knew nothing about cost until I paid the bill, at $77 a night. Had I known, I would of passed. There are nicer places in the area, for half that.
soren 08/21/17 02:33pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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